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Well, reading the caption on the website might help.

Check this out http://www.mapleleafsikh.com/2009/09/5ks-from-1799.html Interesting food for thought and a great painting.

For every one case that's made public, there's at least 500 that are hidden

But do they really read it?

Thanks for the website 'Singh_Sahib_ji'. Much appreciated.

Thanks a million 'Mahakal'

Wow, so no one has a picture on these Ragi's. Oh well.

So no one has anything on these ragi's?

Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has pictures or photos of Ragis or Kathakars from any age. Either from the present or from way back. The main ragis I'm interested in are: Bhai Amul Singh (they performed Kirtan in the leicester area of the UK in the 70's and 80's) Bhai Avtar Dilbagh Singh Bhai Balkar Singh Multani Bhai Bhagwant Singh Bhai Chattar Singh Bhai Devinder Singh (the puratan ragi not Bhai Devinder Singh Sodhi) Bhai Gurdial Singh Rasia Bhai Harjinder Singh (Faridkot Vale) Bhai Jaswinder Singh (The one who sang 'Koi Bole Ram Ram' in the old skool Texla Vision ad's before the kirtan videos) Bhai Kalyan Singh (Lucknow Vale) Bhai Karnail Singh Dhiraj Bhai Kulbir Singh (Takhsal Vale) Bhai Piara Singh (the puratan one - famous for his rendition of 'Tu Hi Nisani Jeet Ki') Bhai Rajinder Singh (the one who died fairly early in life, early 40's I think) Bhai Sant Singh (old ragi, famous for singing slow yet traditional kirtan) Bhai Sohan Singh Rasia Bhai Surjeet Singh (Was known to do kirtan in the Derby area of the UK) Thats pretty much it so far, Hope you can all help.

What happens to people who insult the Guru and its teachings?

Ajaib Singh Bagri said something to that effect in a community hall around the 84 time in Canada.

I might as well add mine in, I wrote this one a few months after the tragic deaths of the 3 Singhs n Lake Cumbria. Mght as well share it here. My Three Brothers. Three sons, three men, three kings, three last breaths, Three mothers, three fathers, three brothers, three deaths, The Almighty has taken back what he gave, Under the condition that no one was allowed to save, Accept the will and do not lament, The hands they shook, laughs shared and happiness spent, These three souls were born a different race, Bravely they accepted fate and smiled Death in the face, ‘Brothers for life’, ‘immortal we shall stay’, These were the words echoed on the Lake District bay, When the authorities went below – they were shocked, The three kings lay down smiling, all arms interlocked, Thousands of tears, thousands of fears, from far and nears, Had flowed to the Gurus Door with God’s name singing in their ears, So, let nothing spiritually hinder, The lives of Tajinder, Satbir and Harvinder. Indy Saggu

For many Sikhs out there including people here its "do as I say, not as I do"

Is it your business?

This country is a hole for Sikhs, don't waste your money. I faced racism but as I progressed through the grades in my high school, it stopped. Don't get me wrong, its great for a holiday, but don't live here. As for sikhism, there is none. Here its only on face value. The Giani's (in Sydney that is) don't give a rats <banned word filter activated> on what theyre doing to whom or how theyre doing the particular task. Once again, come for a holiday, don't live here.

You're always going to get idiots

I ordered mine from the UK, still havent recieved it yet. Just be patient I guess

But for a ful time 'ragi', isn't that their full time 'job'? So in a way, taking money or accepting money is their income,

Do the 'Kenyan'!

I still say, find Dr. Dolittle

There's only one way to solve this, find Dr. Dolittle and ask him to translate.

I agree but I'm sure there are some animals that can 'see the light', or have been placed into that animal for a reason. But in a way you're right, the human birth is the only one that can actually read, write, speak and understand Gurbani to its fullest (regardless if there are jackasses that don't).

How about this, Cause he said so.

I've seen it, a bit boring but imformative too.

That's right, Ram Rai did what he did and WE are changing the bani to suit us? Why can't we impress the Guru with Raag? Everyone has the potential to sing Raag, but yet we don't, why 'cos its too hard? It's meant to be hard. Get off your <banned word filter activated> and learn.