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Looks like one of Bhai Kulbir Singh's posts. I love most of what they write.

I wont be hitting Sachkhand but you are correct; without 'Sat' Guru Mukti in Kaljug cannot be achieved. Asa Di Vaar makes this crystal clear.

LOL, since when did ISIS start recruiting men wearing patke?

I am guilty of swearing as much as the next man whether on here on in daily life. Saying this, I am aware it is not a good trait for Sikhs and we should strive to rid ourselves of this type of language in line with: gurU kw isK gMd-vwkI nw hovY The Sikh of the Guru should never speak disgusting speech. Rehatnama Bhai Chaupaa Singh Jee nwnk iPkY boilAY qnu mnu iPkw hoie ] O Nanak, speaking insipid words, the body and mind become insipid. I should add that in battle Singh's in the past have used swear words to break down or curse the enemy. So maybe everything depends on the situation but it should not become habit.

Have faith in Guru Sahib and you can easily wait until the time your beard has grown, no need to worry about death. If Amrit Sanchar is not readily held where you live then explain the situation, I think they will understand. Moreover, you might be waiting an age for it to grow. The whole point of Amrit Sanchaar is to follow rehat, so if someone breaks these promises then on their head be it. This is why I believe it won't be an issue and they will accept you as is.

The difference being the few genuine Kharkoos would never dream of harming innocents even after the State had turned Punjab into daily killing fields.

One 'past' you missed is how he along with other Kar Seva Babey was complicit in replacing the Gold Panels from Harmandhir Sahib, with somewhat cheaper gold, and I wonder what happened to the original panels?? These babey have destroyed almost all historical references from ithaasic gurdwarey. Nishkam Sevak Jatha have always been against a separate homeland and vehemently oppose any violence, ie the Kharkoo Lehar. The only person in their past who had some Anakh was Giani Amolak Singh Ji and that too in the early days after the attack on Harmandhir Sahib.

Love this btw

difficult to prove? the Panth has spoken there is nothing else to prove, simple there is an interim Jathedar until Jagtar Singh Hawara is released.

The context post 84 is completely different, a comparison cannot be made. Had Sant Ji been alive the sell outs would have been dealt with swiftly or at the very least banished from the Panth and given Tankhaiye.

Small clip of aerial footage of Sarbat Khalsa

It's true, for a long time the masses were afraid to speak up against the family due to the heera that was Sant Jarnail Singh Jee, but when the truth outs over a number of years it's difficult to keep silent. He is now siding with the Badals so this is further proof of where his priorities lie.

Someone solid in their Sikhi and at an advanced level would not do this, but like OP said, he is a Sher, we cannot question these decisions as in the same position who knows how we would react.

I was referring to the UK branch. Will try and find out for you. Below is an old post I found and much of it correlates with what's on the Internet about Rode parvaar: Jasbir Singh Rode (nephew of Sant Bhindrawale) along with his family - Joginder Singh Rode , Father of Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale, Harcharan Singh Rode, Brother of Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale - have mislead the Sikh community during a very difficult time. They looted lakhs of rupees collected in the name of Saheed families abroad. All the money collected was used to buy land and businesses to enrich the entire family. Before the 1984, this family had no land or bank balance. Jasbir Singh Rode was in dubai during the 1984 attack and was suddenly brought to Pakistan and than ended up in Manila, Philipines and finally arrested by the Interpol and brought to New Delhi where he was kept in the Red Fort for year and half. During this time he agreed to derail the Khalistan movement and plotted with Indian intelligence to mislead the entire Sikh nation. Indian Govt. with a fanfare released him from Jail and brought in place to Amritsar in 1988. Siddhartha Shankar Ray, the infamous Governor of Punjab came to recieve at the Amritsar Airport and Rode was escorted to the Golden Temple where he was allowed to take over the reign of Akal Takhat. This was immidiately after Prof. Darshan Singh had resigned over the differences with Panthak Committee, a committee comprising of the 5 militant organizations fighting for Khalistan ( but had been infiltrated by the Indian inteligence). Jasbir singh Rode was made the Akal Takhat Jathedar by this panthak Committee on January 26, 1986 while he was in jail and Ragi Darshan Singh was made the acting Jathedar. Tohra and Akalis were in jail and accepted these militant appointments. But later Darshan Singh refused to toe the line of these militant organizations and finally resigned. This is when Jasbir Singh rode was conviniently released from the jail to 'curtail' the Khalistan Movement. Rode coined the term Pooran Azaadi instead of Khalistan for which he was dumped by militants finally in 1988. This led to operation Black Thunder when Rode was Jathedar and lot of genuine Sikh militants and majority of Indian Inteligence agents were in Golden Temple. Govt of India wanted to malign the Sikhs and the rebeliious movement and showed to the entire world how these militants surrendered and gave up arms to be arrested at the Golden Temple. Same night, Rode, along with his planners namely Arun Nehru, Cousin of Rajiv Gandhi, and Arun Singh had planned to dissolve the SGPC and appoint a board which would manage the Gurdwaras and Sikh affairs. SGPC officials found out this plot a night before and Manjit Singh Calcutta sacked the Rode same night and his other four Jathedars who were mainly from Damdami Taksal but were conniving with Indian Govt. Calcutta along with tohra and Akalis appointed Harcharan Singh from Delhi as the Jathedar but within a week he resigned and they appointed Prof Darshan Singh as Jathedar of Akal Takhat again. Than everybody know what happened - High Police official Chaman Lal came out and resigned over Govt of India's plan to install Rode again as the Sikh Leader. Police was instructed to let Rode go to Akal Takhat and claim his leadership while Darshan Singh was there which would have lead to open confrontation with Akalis. Chaman Lal came out public against his govt's plan to allow Rode to create a big havoc. Finally with Lal's admission, Govt's plan was derailed and Rode did quiet Ardas at the Akal Takaht and left peacefully. Since than this rogue has been trying to eztablish himself with all kinds of other jokers to lead the Sikhs. He has his brother Lakhbir Singh Rode in Pakistan and some supporters in Canada and England who still send him money. Jasbir Singh Rode and his family are responsible for killing of many people who spoke against the family's abuse of their influence and looting of this money meant for the Saheed parivars. Bibi Rajinder Kaur, editor of Sant Sipahi, was the main target by them because she exposed the family and brought pictures and evidence of their bungling of lot of money and killing of people who were speaking against them. She was gunned down along with a granthi of Golden Temple, Sohan Singh. This is all documented. If someone needs proof, they can call Any of named individuals and read the newspapers of those times. This is all true. This is how these goons have made fool of the Sikh community and some remnant of these psuedo Khalistanis abroad are fooling the sikh youth and especially the Sikh youth born and brough up in western countries back then of course Darshan Singh was pro Dasam Granth and did not have missionary inclinations!

I've never heard anyone say positive things about Jasbir Singh. Hell, I have a friend who is practically part of his family and he tells me there is no bigger badmaash/sell out. The ISYF back in the 90's clocked that he was a tout and it was well known he had close ties with the GOI. Was under the impression Panthic.Org was affiliated to Babbar Khalsa and AKJ?

Wembley and Harrow are full of Gujarati's so it was the perfect venue for them. Question is who looked after all the London Newsagents during the event?

If people are doing Ninda of Sikhs in this world, it keeps any haume in check. Bhoots are not in human form and hence as per my limited understanding, I do not believe rules surrounding ustat/ninda apply.

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Yes Gurbani is testament that the Sevaks of Vaheguru are shielded from Jams and these scary creatures tremble in fear and are beggars in front of Gursikhs. I'm not convinced that Prets and other Joons can rob anyone of naam. What they can do is place a heavy burden on a person through fear but looting naam to me at least is not feasible. A person loses naam all by themselves, through their own actions.

...and it fails to amaze me why Sikhs are not progressing. Like I said previously and maybe you're not comprehending it very well, 'I do not mind if you curse the ones doing damage, but what you cannot do is seemingly tarnish everyone with the same brush'. I can go into the pros and cons of what the Jatts have brought to the table and otherwise (where you're stuck), but do not have the time or interest to do so. This will be my last post on this, no matter how much you stir up the hornets nest.

You cannot compare spirits who are stuck in limbo with Jamdhoots. The Jams work for Dharamraja and have powers beyond our imagination, but even they stay away from Gursikhs and Naam.

Thanks for posting. I've since listened to some of their vichaar & Baba Ji looks pretty Chardhikala!! Having also read the article, there is one point I disagree with and I don't know if this is due to a mistranslation from Punjabi to English. In the story about the Rani, there was mention that Spirits can can steal naam, this to me does not make any sense? I am aware they are attracted to the Naam repeated by Abhyasi Gursikhs and even sit in their presence but it's not possible they can purge naam.

Unsurprisingly the Western press have kept quiet over this massive gathering. Reporting the sprained ankle of an Israeli Soldier on the beeb recently to the UK population is no doubt more in the public's interest , eventhough Sikhs outnumber Jews here by almost double. Of course Cameron would not want to upset the tyrant modi.

I don't believe I mentioned what type of simple but thanks for the analysis. What you mentioned about Jatts in an earlier post applies to all ethnic groups in the Sikh Diaspora: 'Those who have and are manipulating the faith for their own personal and tribal aggrandisement (past and present) will always be treacherous snakes, deserving of the highest contempt in my eyes'.