ThunderousDominator

regarding this claim what do you have to say about this post i made in another thread i dont want to start an arguement im legitimately interested in learning how many converted because of sufis vs how many converted because of fear read the whole thing Bro do you seriosly believe that hindus never converted to avoid all of that and to save the lives of themselves and there familys also pakistanis muslims are a proud people do you honestly think that they will teach there children"our ancestors were hindus who converted out of fear" instead saying the majority converted because of sufis became a conveniant exvuse

sikhi may be 500+ years old but the khalsa was formally created in 1699 thats what mehtab singh was refering too you seem like a smart enough guy you shouldve been able to notice by now that its the same 2-3 guys in every thread in a forum that has thousands of members yet when you reply to them you insult sikhs as a whole and iv seen muslims say much worse about sikhs than any sikh on here has about muslims just go to any big muslim forum and type in sikh in the search bar to find out i believe brother mehtab grew up in the uae

do you guys seriously believe that keeping this monster alive will do any good dozens more pigs like him could come out tomorrow morning and kp gill sumedh saini and the rest them still wont be touched

i hope some of the bandhars on here learn from this

where are the rich sikhs at 100cr should be like nothing to some people

the fact that a baseball bat found close to the broken windows just conveniently happened to have sikh markings on it makes this sound incredibly fishy

30,000 is actually an extremly low figure 200,000 would be a more accurate figure its takes into account all the murders from 84-95 not just the ones in 84

what you've known all your life is a lie

Neo why are you judging khalistanis by random hotheaded pendus who have no real power behind there words why dont you judge them by the ones who actually faught and died for khalistan like shaheeds bhai jinda and bhai sukha and all the other shaheed kharkus would you classify them all as extremists

dont know about other documentariesbut as others have pointed out cynthiamahmoods book fighting for faith and nation is an amazing book anyone who hasnt read it isnt qualified to speak about the conflict imo

PakistaniPunjabi veer recognizing historical facts doesnt count as an attack on your religion: Will Durant argued in his 1935 book "The Story of Civilisation: Our Oriental Heritage" (page 459): The Mohammedan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. The Islamic historians and scholars have recorded with great glee and pride the slaughters of Hindus, forced conversions, abduction of Hindu women and children to slave markets and the destruction of temples carried out by the warriors of Islam during 800 AD to 1700 AD. Millions of Hindus were converted to Islam by sword during this period. Writer Fernand Braudel wrote in A History of Civilisations (1995), that Islamic rule in India as a "colonial experiment" was "extremely violent", and "the Muslims could not rule the country except by systematic terror. Cruelty was the norm burnings, summary executions, crucifixions or impalements, inventive tortures. Hindu temples were destroyed to make way for mosques. On occasion there were forced conversions. If ever there were an uprising, it was instantly and savagely repressed: houses were burned, the countryside was laid waste, men were slaughtered and women were taken as slaves." The Afghan ruler Mahmud al-Ghazni invaded India no less than seventeen times between 1001 - 1026 AD. The book Tarikh-i-Yamini - written by his secretary documents several episodes of his bloody military campaigns : "The blood of the infidels flowed so copiously [at the Indian city of Thanesar] that the stream was discoloured, notwithstanding its purity, and people were unable to drink itthe infidels deserted the fort and tried to cross the foaming river...but many of them were slain, taken or drowned... Nearly fifty thousand men were killed." In the contemporary record - ' Taj-ul-Maasir' by Hassn Nizam-i-Naishapuri, it is stated that when Qutb-ul- Din Aibak (of Turko - Afghan origin and the First Sultan of Delhi 1194-1210 AD) conquered Meerat, he demolished all the Hindu temples of the city and erected mosques on their sites. In the city of Aligarh, he converted Hindu inhabitants to Islam by the sword and beheaded all those who adhered to their own religion. The Persian historian Wassaf writes in his book 'Tazjiyat-ul-Amsar wa Tajriyat ul Asar' that when the Alaul-Din Khilji (An Afghan of Turkish origin and second ruler of the Khilji Dynasty in India 1295-1316 AD) captured the city of Kambayat at the head of the gulf of Cambay, he killed the adult male Hindu inhabitants for the glory of Islam, set flowing rivers of blood, sent the women of the country with all their gold, silver, and jewels, to his own home, and made about twentv thousand Hindu maidens his private slaves. This ruler once asked his spiritual advisor (or Qazi) as to what was the Islamic law prescribed for the Hindus. The Qazi replied: Hindus are like the mud; if silver is demanded from them, they must with the greatest humility offer gold. If a Mohammadan desires to spit into a Hindus mouth, the Hindu should open it wide for the purpose. God created the Hindus to be slaves of the Mohammadans. The Prophet hath ordained that, if the Hindus do not accept Islam, they should be imprisoned, tortured, finally put to death, and their property confiscated. Timur was a Turkic conqueror and founder of the Timurid Dynasty. Timur's Indian campaign (1398 1399 AD) was recorded in his memoirs, collectively known as 'Tuzk-i-Timuri.' In them, he vividly described probably the greatest gruesome act in the entire history of the world where 100,000 Hindu prisoners of war in his camp were executed in a very short space of time. Timur after taking advice from his entourage says in his memoirs : "they said that on the great day of battle these 100,000 prisoners could not be left with the baggage, and that it would be entirely opposed to the rules of war to set these idolaters and foes of Islam at liberty. In fact, no other course remained but that of making them all food for the sword Timur thereupon resolved to put them to death. He proclaimed : "throughout the camp that every man who has infidel prisoners was to put them to death, and whoever neglected to do so should himself be executed and his property given to the informer. When this order became known to the ghazis of Islam, they drew their swords and put their prisoners to death. 100,000 infidels, impious idolaters, were on that day slain. Maulana Nasir-ud-din Umar, a counselor and a man of learning, who, in all his life had never killed a sparrow, now, in execution of my order, slew with his sword fifteen idolatrous Hindus, who were his captives". During his campaign in India - Timur describes the scene when his army conquered the Indian city of Delhi : "In a short space of time all the people in the [Delhi] fort were put to the sword, and in the course of one hour the heads of 10,000 infidels were cut off. The sword of Islam was washed in the blood of the infidels, and all the goods and effects, the treasure and the grain which for many a long year had been stored in the fort became the spoil of my soldiers. They set fire to the houses and reduced them to ashes, and they razed the buildings and the fort to the ground....All these infidel Hindus were slain, their women and children, and their property and goods became the spoil of the victors. I proclaimed throughout the camp that every man who had infidel prisoners should put them to death, and whoever neglected to do so should himself be executed and his property given to the informer. When this order became known to the ghazis of Islam, they drew their swords and put their prisoners to death." The Mughal emperor Babur (who ruled India from 1526 -1530 AD) writing in his memoirs called the 'Baburnama' - wrote : " In AH 934 (2538 C.E.) I attacked Chanderi and by the grace of Allah captured it in a few hours. We got the infidels slaughtered and the place which had been Daru'l-Harb (nation of non-muslims) for years was made into a Daru'l-Islam (a muslim nation)." In Babur's own words in a poem about killing Hindus (From the 'Baburnama' ) he wrote : "For the sake of Islam I became a wanderer, I battled infidels and Hindus, I determined to become a martyr Thank God I became a Killer of Non-Muslims!" The atrocities of the Mughal ruler Shah Jahan (who ruled India between 1628 - 1658 AD) are mentioned in the contemporary record called : 'Badshah Nama, Qazinivi & Badshah Nama , Lahori' and goes on to state : "When Shuja was appointed as governor of Kabul he carried on a ruthless war in the Hindu territory beyond Indus...The sword of Islam yielded a rich crop of converts....Most of the women (to save their honour) burnt themselves to death. Those captured were distributed among Muslim Mansabdars (Noblemen)" The Afghan ruler Ahmad Shah Abdali attacked India in 1757 AD and made his way to the holy Hindu city of Mathura, the Bethlehem of the Hindus and birthplace of Krishna. The atrocities that followed are recorded in the contemporary chronicle called : 'Tarikh-I-Alamgiri' : Abdali's soldiers would be paid 5 Rupees (a sizeable amount at the time) for every enemy head brought in. Every horseman had loaded up all his horses with the plundered property, and atop of it rode the girl-captives and the slaves. The severed heads were tied up in rugs like bundles of grain and placed on the heads of the captives...Then the heads were stuck upon lances and taken to the gate of the chief minister for payment. It was an extraordinary display! Daily did this manner of slaughter and plundering proceed. And at night the shrieks of the women captives who were being raped, deafened the ears of the people...All those heads that had been cut off were built into pillars, and the captive men upon whose heads those bloody bundles had been brought in, were made to grind corn, and then their heads too were cut off. These things went on all the way to the city of Agra, nor was any part of the country spared. Bro do you seriosly believe that hindus never converted to avoid all of that and to save the lives of themselves and there familys also pakistanis muslims are a proud people do you honestly think that they will teach there children"our ancestors were hindus who converted out of fear" instead saying the majority converted because of sufis became a conveniant exvuse also bro you cant have it both ways you may think that some sikhs here have said some intolerant things and certantly some users here have said things that shhould never come out of a sikhs mouth but atleast on here its only the same 2-3guys whos only purpose whenever they log in is to hate on islam but ive lurked on multiple muslim forums and muslims have said much worse about sikhs than any so-called sikh has about muslims6

since these questions are going to be asked a question should also be asked on what should be done to combat hindu fanatics who say sikhi is just another branch of hinduism

in that case these are the questions i wanted to hear the answers to last time -What's the gatti of krishan and ram chandar ji? Are they mukht? Are they in sachkhand? Are they karak bhramgyani avtars? -Can only sikh get salvation/mukhti or get to sachkhand? What happened to all the saints before sikh dharam? did they get mukhti/went to sachkhand? -What was the legal system in khalsa raj in the past? What should be legal system- basic legal frame work for khalsa raj? Are we against death penalty or for? -What's the gurmat view on euthanasia, person on life support?..should plug be removed if its not natural breathing or put on so person can breath artificially? -Also are Jesus and Muhammad both in sachkhand.

Last time with sant hari singh ji randhawa nobodY put the video up do you still have it neo?

ive got no love for wahhabis bro theyre the same as nazis to me but its all to clear that some members arnt just talking about the fascist aspects theyre bashing the whole religion

they dont speak for the whole forum its same 2-3 guys in every thread i dont know too much about islam and i dont care too much about it either to behonest i just dont think that another dharam should be insulted if a forum member talked about hinduism he way these guys talk about islam on a regualr basis he would get pounced on instantly (rightly so) and called a fanatic,hindu hater and ironicly "taliban" lol

those sites have a clear bias against islam going to them about information on it would be like going to some rss website for information about sikhi

I cant see why some people are filled with such hate for a comunity that makesup only couple percentage points of your country iv seen posts here insulting there dharam and there prophet thats not a level that sikhs should stoop too .The pedos and the groomers should be dragged through the streets but theres no need to tar a whole community with the same brush theres no need to insult there religion theres no need to support nutjob groups like the edl there are videos that show what these edl types think of all minorities not just muslims available onlinefor all to see

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The quranists are pretty good aswell also most practising sunnis iv met are good people waahabis and salafis are the bad ones they hate all non muslims

this is very interesting you see the usuall brainwashed retard converts who yap on and on about the"contradictions" in sikhi yet coudnt even name the ten gurus without a google search the only times iv seen someone who actually know about sikh history and theology convert from sikhi is when theyre influenced by or under the niddar nang camp or either the missionary camp this should tell us something...

Iv got no problem with what people do in there personal lives as long as it doesnt effect others but the way these 3ho guys have misrepresented sikhi to the general public as being some king of flower power hippie religion kind of pisses me off these guys need to jhatka a few goats and get the bir rass flowin'

this all sounds like bs

<banned word filter activated> is wrong with you

was that the same clownish movie were to marry the muslim girl he converts from sikhi right away but whens hes forced to say hindustan murdabad he loses it and takes out dozens of muslims by himself lol