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  1. Listen, you illterate <banned word filter activated>: I've already stated how, in the past, my grandfathers and fathers before him regularly took opium in order to work the fields and ward off malaria. That doesn't mean I would be justified in following the 'tradition' of my family in this day and age. If I did....I would be a low down dirty filthy druggie scum just like you intoxicant supporting pretend sikhs. That was then and this is now......now there are medicines that do the job. In the past, my Sikh forefathers pissed on each other's wounds when cut in battles. But that d
  2. You are very much mistaken. You're criticising me for using 'words' against you sikhs that love taking the drugs and in her example love pushing/dealing the drugs but I think at this point all of you filthy drugie scum should sit back and remember this simple fact: In the whole world, bar one or two countries, you so called 'Sikhs' here that love the cannabis, will not only be arrested and charged with a criminal offence for it, but, in most countries you will have your liberty taken away with a prison sentence and in many countries, such as Singapore, it is an offence deemed immoral enough
  3. Well now, this thread pretty much sums up the dire straits that the young 'Gursikhs' of the UK are in and pretty much sums up why many non-religious Sikhs in the UK see the 'amritdharis' as immoral and morally corrupt. It shows how all we fathers and mothers need to keep our children well away from a very large proportion of those in the UK wearing the garb of our Guru, dressing like him, pretending to be like him, but with all the morals and ethics of a common criminal from the council estate. The thread has shown how an extremely large percentage are drug takers. Now, as the above proves, w
  4. For someone who's been "reading jagsaw's comments for a while now on this forum" you obviously have the reading skills of an amazonian pygmy on acid. If you knew how to read, you will have noticed that I am this forum's most vocal critic of NKJ and see them as causing obscene long term damage to Sikhi. My grandfather...his father before him....and his father before him, as farmers in Punjab, regularly took opium. Not for the nasha, but because it "helped" them work the fields and stay awake. Thats "tradition" in eactly the same way you talk about the nihung's "tradition". The obvious differen
  5. Well, because a 'ball' by very definition, is a sphere shaped object and, by common sense, the thing Americans play with is obviously an oval egg shaped thing and the fact they use their hands to play with it rather than their foot........we call it 'American Hand Egg'.
  6. We don't have favorites. We have favourites. We don't have soccer teams. We have football teams.
  7. Remind me not to take you with me to a debating contest Singh559. You're about as useful and welcome as Jimmy Saville at a children's charity event. Oh and a little tip.....re; those little 'mistersingh' stylee vide clips. You might wanna limit yourself to the one in future. They work in a sort of double negative way whereby the humour and effect of the first is somewhat cancelled out with the inclusion of an unecessary second. Just a little tip to help you on your way.
  8. What you mean "they actually do it" ? What you telling me that for ? I'm the one here...on a previous thread....who gave a detailed account of my experience in my pend after being given it by the granthi in our Gurdwara while my family were having an akhand path here. I''ll repeat it again: They.....because they are a bunch of un-padh cretins who wouldn't know real Sikhi if it jumped up and bit them on the bottom...drink it. They gave me a glass. It was mixed with milk, almonds and spices and this ensured it will do the rounds in my body's digestive system before finally hitting my head in
  9. What ? What you trying to tell us ? Cat got your tongue ? Not have any views of your own ? Not capable of articulating your own views ? Your post is a complete mystery but......if you're trying to use a mortal 'man's' ideas and beliefs about our 10th master using drugs....and pass it off as definitive proof of the truth even though you know that all mortal men are inherently flawed, I will retort with some fundamental truths: Guru ji was clear and adamant about the strict ban on all intoxicants. Only a mentally ill mental inpatient of a facility catering for the mentally ill with a big
  10. Ummm.......you have to wonder about a man that is awake at 01:14 hrs on Saturday night /Sunday morning with nothing on his mind but marijuana. Calling it 'shaheedi degh' is just an attempt to give drugs a sense of respectability among those sikhs who are inclined towards narcotic substances. i.e..bani is not good enough for them......simran is not good enough for them.....sangat is not good enough for them. They need drugs in order to reach a stage that Gurbani on its own can take other Sikhs. It grows wild all over Punjab. You'll find it in other people's fields if not your own. It (bh
  11. You obviously didn't read the message directly above yours Cisco. The cost of adhering to very strict regulations is very very high in Singapore. The car scenario I gave you was just an example of it, i.e the fact that one needs to spend around $100,000 on car tax etc before one can even put a car on the road there. Thats why there's so few private ownership cars there and the environment is so clean. Once you've spent $100,000 you can then factor in the additional cost of the actual car. That example then, is how Singapore maintains an extremely clean and orderly society. Standards are very h
  12. Let me put my points in bullet order: 1) The BBC, time and time again, have been shown to totally disregard the existence of Sikhs in the UK, i.e people that pay for the BBC's existence with our licence fee. 2) With regards to international news from Punjab, they only employ Indian journalists from Bombay who naturally only write or broadcast news about their version of 'India'. 3) We, the Sikhs, have been trying to expose the BBC for a long while now. 4) In my opinion, looking closely at that 'silent man with a turban' constantly in BBC discussion programme audiences, he comes across as a
  13. Even before he was force fed he had still broken the world record for being on a hunger strike by some margin. In fact the margin was at such a level that it was actually physically impossible for a human to be on hunger strike anywhere near that long and still be alive. And therein lies the problem. The authorities there (India) see us as gimmicky sort of people not to be taken seriously and we do nothing to dispel that viewpoint when one after the other some (we had 3 or 4 in a row) some of or men go on hunger strikes that are not even hunger strikes at all.
  14. It was probably Muslims that did it. I say we ban all Muslims until we can "figure out what the hell is going on". Can I be President now ?
  15. "Already Islamified London" ? Really ? Which part of London do you live in for you to think that ? Oh yeah....you don't do you....You live in the Birmingham area and yet you think we Londoners live an "islamified" city. As a Londoner, let me tell you that this city is very black......very jewish....very very Hindu....extremely European.....increasingly hispanic south american and in these parts of west London very Sikh. But, unless you live in the cheap eastern part of London, it most certainly isn't even remotely 'islamified'.
  16. I have relations in Singapore. None of them drive a car because apparently it costs upwards of $100,000 just to put a car on the road in Singapore (and thats not including the actual cost of the car). I mention that because I think it highights the very very high cost of maintaining a beautifully clean and hygenic society. They do have a tremendous amount of regulations out there and, without knowing the facts, one can imagine the very high costs of maintaining a Gurdwara in compliance with regulations and society norms.
  17. I don't think that's specific to kids, although kids do need to be 'taught' things. But everyone would be vegetarian if they 'thought' about where their food comes from. Trouble is, people like to create a distance between the source and how their food (meat) ended up on the supermarket shelf and ultimately their dinner plate. They like to imagine Walmart has this wonderfully clean state of the art laboratory where meat is magically manufactured and packaged ready to be shipped off to the supermarket shelf. In truth though they know where it actually comes from but because they don't like to
  18. You seem to mistakingly equate Amritsar to 'Majha' quite alot Big Tera. Yes Amritsar is in Majha, but it is only one very small part of it. Essentialy, the short story is that the Sikh Mahajans are the off-spring of the Hindu Khatri money lenders who deliberately made one of their sons 'Sikh' in order to financially prosper during the Khalsa Raj period when Sikhs ruled an empire. Those money lenders knew that in order to benefit from a monetary point of view from this wide and powerful empire, they would need to have at least one foot in the 'Sikh' camp. At the end of the day then, they are
  19. In terms of our history, Australia trumps even Canada and California as the first 'western' land our pioneers settled in on a large scale. Unfortunately, as Punjabis have little understanding and regard for preserving history, they have knocked down most of the oldest houses in the villages of doaba and replaced them with pointlessly large modern mega houses. It is the older houses in the villages of doaba that reveal history. Just like how, in 100 years time, our off-spring will notice the number of houses in the villages with mention of 'Canada' engraved. From that, they will learn that, in
  20. Very good point. Nothing in this world makes me sicker to the depths of my belly than the sight of 'nihungs' on Hohala Mohala throwing colour at each others faces at Anandpur. Sick to death of these 'pretend' warriors pretending to be warriors but never to be seen when an actual fight keeps coming along. But...we're no worse. Look at our threads here. We have poster after poster going on about Muslim this and Muslim that and one or two with hell-bent hatred for Britain and yet, all the while, Hindu India keeps occupying us, Hindu India keeps humiliating us, Hindu India keeps killing us, Hind
  21. A very kind gesture. Beautiful. But...as someone else here pointed out, a little analysis and intellectual skills on our part reveals something that points to a fraudulent 'stunt' rather than actual genuine refugees. That 'Hindu Indian', if he actually exists, that had his feet washed and kissed needs to be tracked down. Its difficult to understand why a Hindu Indian would be claiming refugee status from an infamous Hindu Indian nation that is hellbent on standing up for his rights at the expense of minorities such as Sikhs and Christians. Something here doesn't quite add up.
  22. There have been, throughout history, many intellectual and philosophical discussions within Sikhi. This is natural as man needs to find peace as to why he is here. But.......this is the first time in Sikh history....and the history of Sikh intellectual discussion worldwide.....that a thread espousing Ghandiesque celibacy has reached 14 pages. Gandhi, if you'll remember, was a great supporter of celibacy, and so used to sleep naked with his young neices in order to show how "devoted to God he was" and how his celibacy "could not, in the slightest, tempt him". In this day and age, when men wit
  23. Be mindful, my friend, of understanding basic legal principles and how apt or non-apt they might be to Sikhi. As far as this 'innocent until proven guilty' lark goes we need to discard any claims that it is an invention of English Common Law (which Canada and America also practice) and understand that the principle's origins lay in the Roman Law practiced in mainland Europe who took the principle from the Christian Bible, notably the story of Adam and Eve and the way God could only judge Adam as guilty once testimonies were heard and more importantly from Deutoronomy 19:15 and the story of Mo
  24. So........the thing that had been keeping me dead all my life, i.e non-amritdhari. 'mrit' in ancient Sanscrit means death. In Sanscrit, just like all indo-european languages, including engish (as any doctor will tell you), when you put an 'a' in front of the word it becomes the opposite. So, when you put the 'a' in front of 'mrit' (death) you get life. Meaning we are actually dead....walking around as the walking dead...and it is Amrit that will give us life. What stops a dead man choosing life is complicated. We all have our own reasons / excuses. Mine was the fact that my faith's parcharaks
  25. There is a right way to live life and a wrong way. There are people that want a great future for Sikhi and then there are those that are more interested in finding short term ways of disguising their secret / latent homosexuality / perverseness. Lets analyse one of the ways...Celibacy: Lets all assume that the proponents of celibacy are right and of course, as we all want to do whats right, we all follow their example and be celibate. Lets follow it step by step: We all become celibate Nobody's getting married and making babies anymore so, before long, the population of Sikhs worldwide goes
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