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Umm... just wondering on what basis should Jagtar Singh Hawara be the jathedaar?? :s

I have some of his songs.. I can upload em when i get some free time.

^^When did i say i am a Gurmukh :s

If your are doing paath(with a sacha mann) to get your ex back then you'll get him for sure BUT you have to decide if that is all you want from this life.

Reading/Studying anything but Gurbani is manmat : ) just like listening to anything else is :s

Good luck with what you are trying to do, whatever that is : ). Our definitions of sikhi aren't same. I am sure mine is flawed.. koi na i am learning.

^^ and who do you think writes these definitions?? People with a narrow mindset.. people like us... trust me sister the Guru is outside the box... you just have to feel the love... Baba Nanak never came here to start a separate religion.. They were here to spread the love... and sadly i don't see that in your posts bheney.. Abdus has come here to learn more about sikhi and what do we give him?? Do you think Guru Ji would have acted in the same manner?? Love for sikhi is in the heart not in the sarbloh kirpan you wear... Love for sikhi is in the eyes that shed tears when they see someone in pain... love for sikhi is helping someone and not refusing to give your bone marrow coz it means removing some of your hair.. thats the true love in my eyes.. would love to kiss the feet of such people not someone who is too arrogant/ignorant.... sikhi is Bhagat Puran Singh Ji not people like us who can't help someone in trouble... sikhi is much more then wht we think sikhi is... sikhi is the truth.. I know whatever i have said above won't make sense to many.. but i have said what my Guru Ji was telling me to type.. Its late there in UK. Aren't you gonna sleep??

aaa ral ke ishq pu-ga-iye, aa dil naal dil wa-ta-iye .... ik waari han kar de sohniyeeeeeeeeeee .... mohabattan ho gayian sanuu.. mohabattan ho gayiannnnnnnn sanu .... i killl u : | ps: mod uncles can we have a bhangra emoticon?? :s

Just a comment for UKGuptKaur.. I once talked to a very nice muslim and i asked him what exactly does 'kafir' mean. His reply was .. kafir is someone who doesn't believe in GOD... and from whatever knowledge i have.. the GOD he was talkin about was allah, waheguru, ram, rahim... etc etc... All i can say is don't just be so ignorant. The same god resides in everyone. The sikhi my elders taught me is far better then your version of sikhi. The way our youth talks scares me at times. I really wish Guru Ji sabb nu sumaat bakshan te sahi rahe paun.. may Guru Ji show us the LIGHT. ps: UKGuptKaur ji when you come to HELL don't knock. Just say "I killlllllllllllllllllll uuuuuuuuu" to the person who gaurds the gates. Dass will be more then happy to let you thru : )

What humans have done to Islam will happen to Sikhi if we continue like this.. You INFIDELS ... go play pacman. UKGuptKaur == Achmed Kaur :s I kill uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!! ps: Before that is taken as a death threat let me tell everyone that its from some video Papi v2.0 sent me.

1. You listen to the first track on your iPod. 2. Download that track. 3. Put that in iTunes library. 4. Keep doing the above steps till you get the last track in your iTunes library. 5. Call me names .... *SMILE* 6. Connect the new iPod to the computer and transfer tracks. I know you won't like my idea but u needed help ASAP .. so just tryna help :s 7. SCREAM : )

1. Talk to someone before you go to the taxi drivers to get a rough idea of the fare because once they see a confused desi :s the rates tend to skyrocket. 2. If you don't have too much luggage thn you can also take a "bhoond" (three wheeler). Trust me you'll enjoy that ride. I am assuming no one is gonna be there to receive you at the airport so be alert and don't leave your belongings unattended. Hope you have a safe trip.

Must have been SHAKTIMAN..India's first superhero.

^^Punjab ch kitho aa bai sian?? :s

Many Sant Mahapurkhs like Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji have done seva for the panth. They have been Giani Singhs with no comparison. I feel blessed to have access to these priceless vichaars on Guru Ji. I am sure we all can find 20 mins from our 'busy' schedules and listen to atleast one recording everyday. ps: Are these DVDs available in Canada??

^^ Didn't you say you are new to sikhi and you are here to learn?? If you got the message thn its good for you. If you can't read these things again thn SHUT UP and move on.

Stop the bickering and someone translate(in punjabi) the talk for me.. this freshie little english ... dhanwaad : )

Remarks on Dasam Granth Warning to Akal Takht former Jathedar Tribune News Service Amritsar, January 23 Panthic organisations and gurdwaras in Canada warned former Jathedar of Akal Takht Darshan Singh for making slanderous remarks against the ‘Bani’ of Guru Gobind Singh and other Sikh scriptures. In an e-mail to The Tribune here today by 16 Panthic organisations and gurdwaras from the greater Toronto area said a meeting was held in Toronto last Saturday and noted the former Jathedar had criticised the Bani of Guru Gobind Singh compiled in Dasam Granth along with the vaars of Bhai Gurdas ji II. It said last week, the Akhand Kirtani Jatha, with support from various Panthic organisations challenged Darshan Singh for a debate with Sikh scholars on the authenticity of Dasam Granth. However, the he has not indicated whether he would accept the offer to debate with the scholars on this subject, it added. It further said Darshan Singh was not allowed to utilise the stages of the majority of the gurdwaras in the region, due to his past anti-Panthic activities.

Turban: KAC meets French envoy Tribune Reporters Amritsar, January 23 A delegation of the Khalsa Action Committee (KAC) today met Jerome Bonnafont, French Ambassador to India, in New Delhi today to apprise him of the Sikh concerns and viewpoint on the turban issue. The three-member delegation comprising former IAS officer Gurtej Singh, Jagmohan Singh and Kanwarpal Singh, spokesperson of the KAC, presented a memorandum seeking a solution to the problem of Sikh schoolchildren in France, saying that while the Sikhs were conscious of the secularist ideals of France, the community earnestly believe that France had erred in this particular case. The French Ambassador assured the delegation that though the French President would be here on a short visit, he would explore possibilities for a Sikh delegation to meet him. The memorandum stated that every department of the French government was aware of the religious and social significance of the turban to the Sikhs. Over the past three years several representations had been made to French forums by different Sikh organisations. It said school-going Sikh students wearing turban were no threat to any person. Dhindsa meets Bonnafont SANGRUR: Secretary-general of the SAD Sukhdev Singh Dhindsa met French Ambassador Jerome Bonnafont in Delhi on Tuesday in connection with a meeting of the SAD MPs, SGPC chief and Sikh lawyers with President of France Nicolas Sarkozy on the turban ban. Dhindsa on Wednesday said the French Ambassador had assured him that he would do something to arrange their meeting. Dhindsa was here to meet and know about the health of advocate Daljit Singh Sekhon’s father Ganda Singh (93), a freedom fighter. We’ll talk to Sarkozy: Menon Amritsar: A delegation led by SGPC president Avtar Singh has been given an assurance by India’s foreign secretary Shiv Shanker Menon that the turban issue would be taken up with the French President Nicholas Sarkozy by fixing a meeting at the earliest. He also handed over a copy of the book “The Turban and Sword of the Sikhs” to him.

That is new to me.. :s ps: abdus welcome to the forum : )

^^Thanks for clarifying Namastang veer. What do you suggest be done with the people who are ignorant/innocent and matha tek to these material objects?? I for one feel that all these relics can be put in a separate place for people to see. Gurudwara shouidn't be turned into a museum. If we have Sri Guru Granth Sahib in front of us what other reminders do we need?? What do you think should be done about the people who preserve toothbrushes as relics??

Would one classify a toothbrush as a relic?? You wanna put these 'relics' for display you can do all that in a separate room, why put it right there?? Then you have em pendu bibian matha tekking to these 'relics'.. i won't term that as beadbi but stupidity on part of the bibian and the people who put these so called relics there. The ones who are saying why are the people who do beadbi breathing, what exactly are these guys on about?? If one feels there is beadbi happening they shoudln't be sittin and chattin BS instead thy should take the responsibilty to 'shodh the nindaks' if thy strongly feel about that.

I believe in everything this mind can think of...

I got juttian all the time. When i talk to my parents on the fone about the past, they do repent hitting me but i think juttian helped a lot.

^^ We'll totally go off topic here but yeah should we apply the same logic for Sarika Singh case in UK?? Why are sikhs backing her over the Karra issue?? She isn't even amritdhari which means karra ain't mandatory for her... I still love you.. feel it : )