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waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh by reading your post it seems like you feel that ur personal freedom of choice is being oppressed because of you keep ur kes...............hence you do not keep you hair because YOU want to keep it but to either fit in with family or to avoid confrontation about going against the "norm" being keeping ur kes........... I feel you have already made the decision...............but are hesitant in doing it because one side is saying "do it" and the other is saying "dont" Like my other brothers and sisters have sed..................find out WHY sikhi requires its sikhs to keep their kes.................and assess yourself against these values..................you cannot have your feet in both boats.............we are all learning on this journey to God but by saying "cutting my hair wont effect my sikhi" is just a weak justification for not being able to follow Guru Ji hukam................im not saying its easy.............when ur a 24 yr old singhni with more facial hair than some blokes TRUST ME it gets hard..... :lol: ......but that does not mean you give up on ur GURU Take the time out it find sikhi in urself discovering sikhi is discover ur true inner self................the journey is wonderful and can only be understood when experienced...........you got nothing to loose and everything to gain............ gud luck!! Guru Ang Sang Sahaee

just been on sikhitothemax and mine doing the same thing..........i think its a site problem............

waheguru pahji i did not intend to dilute anything but im a papi that i have no knowledge that i may be able to describe the beauty and chardi kalah of raag/clasical kirtan....... My sincerest apologies if my reply implied otherwise

thanks sangat jio.................pahji i went to that link on Gurbani updesh but nothings happening, ive tried in IE7 and Firefox and nothing is playing even when im selecting the file "shudd santheeaa" :umm: Anjaan pehnji we were going to go Wilenhall but that is an advanced class and bhai sahib explained that we would benifit more by coming on Wednesdays to smethwick

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh gurmat sangeet = singing of gurbani kirtan i.e. sings wahegurus praises Cause = Love of waheguru/sikhi/sangat/ so all in all pretty cahrdi kalah...........turn out is getting better every week.........plz come along and get the laha Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

erm............yeah thats all very nice and dandy but instead of wasting server space and our/ur time and using Big fancy words and twisting the argument and debate and moulding it into something greater than it actually is....................heres my two cents................. Religion is perfect......................God is Perfect WE mess it up........our karams mess it up...............Look for God in yourself first, then look to the rest of the world.....cos if you cant see God in your self then you cant see God in anything.......... Religion will always be under scrutiny and people will have faith in their "own" notion of what is right and wrong.................amongst this God's Way...............God's Law are lost............peoples way to God are different like each person is different..............why try and quantify the "goodness" and "holiness" of an action? when all is Waheguru's Bhana...................this concept holds no value............ Love God....................Live God.............Fall into God................... Everything else will take care of itself..............

erm................whats is the "Muharnee" ? :BL: sorry im so dumb

sorry to kick this thread back to life but........dass is going santheea now with Waheguru's amazing kirpa at Smethwick on Wednesdays.................the amazing pahji teaching it is propa chardi kalah so thanks to everyone who advised me............ the next part................... :BL: i did punjabi at school and took GCSES at got an A but now im finding it difficult to put gurbani akkars together so i cant read it that well.............do many people have this problem? i know Ura Ehra etc and the "vowels" but when it comes to actually ready gurbani i realy stuggle.................will santheaa become a problem for me? should i ask bhai sahib is he would just over basic vocab first before i continue? i feel realy stupid but i wanna do this right..........i dont wanna lack anything when it come to mahraj.................well only in santheaa cos im at total papi in all other areas :BL:

His Austin Powers films are the best!!! bahahahahaha!! YEAH BABY! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :D :LOLz:

:pray: may waheguru bless his soul

:huh: okaaay........

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh Wow my amrit sanchaar was the strangest and most wonderful day of my life.........i will try and share as much as i can...........the week before i was a propa "moni" cut hair the works..............i had always tried to get into sikhi but always did it on my terms..........never realising how much Guru Ji loved me and looked after me...............there was a rainsbhai at Sedley Street Gurdwara in Wolverhampton and i remember walking into it feeling horrible...........not happy with the way my .ife was and feeling this "longing" for waheguru..........so i sat there and each shabd that was sung was like waheguru was talking to me and telling me what to do............but the end of the night where i had only planned to stay till midnight........but the next thing i knew it was 5am and the "smaabti" ardas was happening and i was one on the only people there other than one to two gursikhs.......i suddenly paniked and ran out on the diwan hall not realising how all that time had past and what had kept me there............then someone had taken my shoes :glare: i searched everywhere and went around in circles.............then out of no-where this gursikh came up to me and sed these words "pehnj why havent you taken amrit yet?" "you gotta give you head to maharaj" i dont what it was about this gursikh's words but i felt as if it was Guru Gobind Singh Ji asking me.............i was suddenly so ashamed and i hugged this gursikh and knew now why i had lost me shoes........... I went home that night and couldnt stop thinking about what had just happend............then suddenly i though "NO u cant take amrit there no sanchaar coming up and you aint ment to do it" just as this thought was coming into my head..............my fone went off..........the amazing gursikh i had encountered text to tell me there was an amrit sanchaar the following Saturday...........i was speachless...............i knew.................something inside fell into place.........i knew what i had to do............the gursikh arranged all my kakkars for me and even taught me how to tie a dastaar and put my name down for the sanchaar.............i swaer i dont think i could ever have done it without this Gursikh.............who Maharaj had sent to ensure i follow His hukam............ Then i told me family and loved ones..............they were horrifed...........they couldnt undersand why i wanted to do this..........there are no gursikhs going back two generations in my family................i lost many relationships but i gained the most vaulable realationship that outweighs all these..............a rishta my My Guru.................. The day of the sanchaar came................i woke up that morning and i was nervous like a bride on her wedding day...............i took full kesi ishnaan and adourned my kakkars and tied my dastaars...........then i looked in the mirror..............i didnt see myself any more i saw guru ji...............i felt..........."right".................like i had finally come home.................then i decided to go Gurghar and sit with Mahraj...........which was beautful..............my family all came to the sancahar with me to try and talk me out of it and they even spoke to the panj to diss-uade my taking amrit............i was so fragile and emotional at the state then the Jatherdar of the panj decided to turn me away and sed i wasnt ready for amrit.................my heart broke................i never knew pain until being in that moment...............as i turned to leave..............a singh stopped me.............."bibi ji are you here forr the sanchar?" u turned and didnt know how to answer....................then for nowhere a whole fauj of singhs came and wanted to know why i wasnt taking amrit and we all sat down and disscussed my families concerns and my concerns and then they went to speak to the jatherday and it turns out he had mis-understood the circumstances and hence sed no..........but he then sed there was no reason why i couldnt do it................ i remember standing up and that singh who had earlier stopped me as i was leaving saying "are you ready?" and in that moment i felt like i had these two big suitcases in my hand...........it felt as if they had dissapeared............i could only nod...............so i put my kirpan back on and walked in to the room and realised the singh was going to be one of my panj..............i couldnt stop crying................Maharaj is so amazing............his play is amazing................and he tests his servents up to the last minute and also saves them.............there was only four in my sanchaar and it was perfect.........i couldnt ask Guru Ji for anything more.................everything was perfect and has been perfect because my GURU saved me........... sorry for my mistakes...............im a papi Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

waheguru.... :BOW:

lol my massi lives is worcester, in Obersley, shes got a Convienience Shop there..............................There are no gurdwareh in Worcester, ur Nearest on is going to be any of the Soho Road ones in B'ham i think Worcester is pretty remote in terms of gursikhs and Gurdwareh

do abhiyass od aarti man.........u guys got waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much time on ur hands................why ask each other ASK GURU JI HIMSELF!!!! Do no-stop aarti da jaap and then ask Guru Nanak Dev Ji, HE will tell you what is right and what is wrong.............what is gurmat and what is manmat!!! we no nothing............stop giving it large and bashing each other on forums and actually starting LIVING sikhi!!!!

Calm down............ Firstly people like me didnt even know that this place existed........... So where is Mahraj kept? Is parkash and sukhasn done every day? kinda like a Gurghar cos what me wondering is why is Mahrajs Saroop in a school? Who is doing Mahrajs sewa? how is this done.....................lets get all the facts together before we jump on the beadbi bandwagon...................arm urself with knowledge then go on to battle field....... bhul chuck maafi....

i think the google toolbar taps into our avastha and projects our inner thoughts........................cos i got pretty decect ones :D so Heera Singh the question is.........................whats in UR HEART N SOUL?? bahahahahahahahaha :D

Just been listening to this kirtan and i swear its sooooooooo chardi kalah.......just thought id share Enjoy............................. http://www.g5sikhmedia.co.uk/media/katha/s...40%20pz041).MP3

I think i need to be in charge!!! ill soon whip this place into shape :lol:

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.......... i kinda went through somthing similair, but being a bibi i can safely say i have it abit harder..........having facial hair and LOADS of it........at first dented my confidence so i used to religious wax it.............but i got to a phase whereby i was like...............the more i keep trying to get rid of it........the more it keeps coming back..............and i realised that it was ME that had the problem.........no-one else around me ever sed anything................now, for a bibi yes i have ALOT of kes on my face.......but when waheguru makes you realise its HIS kes not YOURS........i couldnt face nyself torturing my face anymore for the sake of vanity..........vanity, confidence are all subtle forms of ego.........and although i have TONNS of ego in others areas of my manmukhi jeevan... :lol: .......waheguru did kirpa in making overcome this particular issue and im sure he will with you So the first step................figure out why you have lost your confidence..............is it REALY because of the beard or are there underlying issues that you have not fully confronted that are the real cause of your insecurities...... Mahraj tests us in many ways veer ji..........it is was simply the case of "oh its only kes, i still have sikhi inside me" then why did Bhai Taru's Singh Hair take on the properies of Iron that when the muslims tried to cut it, it could not be cut? Why did Waheguru do such kirpa to protect Bhai Taru Singh's Kes................ Ur Bears is your sign that You look to Yur Father Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji......and he will guide you............dont give in to kaljug..........sometimes the higher we progress up the spiritual ladder, the harder the tests become......but remember waheguru would never give u a test you could not overcome.........you just gottta reach out to him and I PROMISE YOU when you do that........HE will take care of everything. plz feel free to PM me if you need to talk..............we all brothers and sisters of the Same Father Bhul chuck maafi, im a papi who knows nothing

:mellow: kaljug at its finest.............and we moan about our nice comfortable cushy lives................how ungreaful are we man..........THESE are REAL problems.............wheres the compassion? Thanks for sharing pehnj xx

Heres everything you need to know about him.......... This book inspired me to get into sikhi................Baba Ji had such an amzing jeevan..... :BOW: sekinehiya2006.pdf i smell a "papi"

:mellow: being amritdhari means nothing in todays society and state............. maybe we should try and be Gursikhs....................

I go to Knowledge Index --------------------->Bhai Gurdas Vaar Index---------->Vaar 1 and thats the error meesge this is on the website by the way heres the link: http://www.sikhitothemax.com/bgindex.asp?Vaar=01

yeah i can access that one at home but as work the website is blocked by my work firewall!!! :cry: STTM is my only hope!!!