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  1. my dear Sikh brother just please think why we are opposing namdhari baba thakur dalip singh just think is not it what he is saying is not it that true and is not it that he is doing something for sikh panth ? is not it he grow sikhs or we are just opposing without giving second thought we should re think
  2. http://www.sikh24.com/2017/11/13/breaking-bhai-amrik-singh-ajnala-resigns-as-jathedar-of-kesgarh-sahib/ Thoughts people?
  3. Waheguru ji ke khalsa wahiguru ji ki fateh i understand and agree that the Akaal Bunga is the head of the Panth but could I have some quotes and itihaas to back this up thanks
  4. "Sangat Ji, We are informed that this Sunday 18th October 11am at Park Avenue Gurdwara, Southall there is an Emergency Panthic Youth Meeting to address the current situation in Panjab and the pending visit of Modi to the UK. At this meeting the aim is to build a collective response to such matters that challenge the Panth. Please attend and confirm your attendance by emailing: info@nsyf.org.uk ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ " https://www.facebook.com/Everythings13.BasicsofSikhi/posts/969747586396642
  5. Waheguru Breaking: Namdhari Leader Wants to Join Khalsa Panth(DSU News Bureau) 3 June 2015- Namdhari leader Thakur Dalip Singh and his followers arrived at Hassanpur, Punjab to visit Bapu Surat Singh Khalsa and to express his willingness to join Khalsa Panth. Bapu Ji was arrested by police and taken to the hospital for force feeding. Although, Thakur Dalip Singh couldn’t meet with Bapu Ji but he met with Sangarsh committee leaders and expressed unity for the cause. It is important to point out that not all Sikh groups under the Akal Takht have come in support of Bapu Surat Singh Khalsa nor have they visited him. Thakur Dalip Singh isn’t the head of the Namdhari community but an estimated 80% of Namdharis follow him. The important points towards unity were the following: 1) Namdhari Leader Thakur Dalip Singh has told his followers to use the word Guru while saying Guru Granth Sahib Ji as before his followers pronounced Aad Sri Granth Sahib. 2) They have agreed to use the Fateh greeting as before it wasn’t always used. 3) Majhbhi Sikhs have been given equal rights as before they ate langar separately and were treated unequally, but now those Majhbhi Sikhs that are Naamdhari will be treated equally according to Thakur Dalip Singh. 4) Thakur Dalip Singh has pledged to support Khalsa Raj and a separate Khalsa State. 5) Thakur Dalip Singh has organized a program in the past where Panthic groups were present. In that program, the theme was for unity of various Sikh groups for a common cause. Also, in that program the Dohara ‘Agia Bhaei Akal Ki’ was read and names of only the ten Sikh Gurus were said which has never happened before among the Naamdharis. Thakur Dalip Singh further pledged to join the Khalsa Panth and to follow it’s Rehats. The historic meeting for unity is being recognized as a turning point to achieve long avoided goals of the Panth. taken from: http://dailysikhupdates.com/breaking-namdhari-leader-wants-to-join-khalsa-panth/
  6. Throughout the years there has been problems here and there in our Panth ranging from different areas that affect the Panth as a whole. The Punj Pyare court system isn't a new brought up idea but why don't Sikh gurdwaras/councils/organizations take it into consideration? I have heard so many times Sikhs talking about it but don't push it first in their agenda. We really need to push for a punj pyare to govern gurdwaras in a country. This has to be one of the top ideas all Sikhs should be pushing forward in the coming years. The benefit of having a punj pyare system will solve many issues that are revolving in our Panth. It has to happen and it will help stabilize the Panth. Questions to ask ourselves: 1) Can different groups AKJ, Taksali, Nihungs.. come to together and make an agreement to set up the punj pyare regardless of differences? 2) Who will be against this decision that the Panth will have trouble with(gw committees, jathas?)
  7. Why do we prerequisite being 'amritdhari' to speak up for Panthic issues? Many times I have seen people demanding others to take Khande di Pahul before talking about Panthic issues. But are the really two related? Jinnah, who founded Pakistan - the home for the Indian Muslims - was a non practising Muslim who enjoyed wine, women and pork. Theodor Herzl - founding father of Zionism - was a cultural Jew and a self admitted atheist.
  8. My question is little bit inadequate, I don't have the tendency to ask such a big question. Shouldn't there be only one place to take amrit ?, I mean only one group of Panj Pyaare as our GURU not anyone from the crowd. But only five Brahmgyani's from the whole world should have the right to do amrit ceremony. As we see at Kalgidhar Patshah's time only Five did the ceremony for thousands. And they were real sikhs. Not just from outside, I mean they were enlightened. What are your views?
  9. Do you think that many Sikh youth today should influenced into doing Sikhi parchar?I know it might be a lifetime job or can be a part time job but if you look at our quality within our quantity (24Mill) the state of the panth is pretty bad and silent. Our population is decreasing. The Akal Takhat jathedar telling us to have 4 kids is a excuse for his poor management of parchar in punjab (no surprise). I really think the upcoming generation can use a lot of parchariks to make Sikhs keep their faith intact and welcome others into Sikhi. Many will disagree with me on the part that Sikhs are more about quality than quantity that is very true but it can become a problem like today. Now we can take the example of Muslims who have tremendous amount of money put into making Muslim centers just to discuss and teach Muslims and others about Islam. In America alone, Muslim population has doubled since 9/11. We have rarely any Sikh centres and our gurdwaras are just a go and eat place. We are a rich minority population in many countries. Our population has swerved up just a notch but many are leaving our faith and many have decided to get rid of kesh. I really think the older generation of Sikhs have done great jobs making gurdwaras and running them but the lack of parchar is pretty sad even here in America. The amount missionaries in Punjab that are just blindly converting Sikhs is plain said. I really think we can use more parchariks to bring Sikhi awareness and strength for the future of the Panth. Any opinions on this? http://www.sikh24.com/2014/03/akal-takht-jathedar-expresses-worry-of-sikh-population-decreasing/#.U4LUh_ldV6A http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/number-muslims-u-s-doubles-9-11-article-1.1071895
  10. Nice article on maharaj. http://tisarpanth.blogspot.co.nz/2014/04/the-divine-sovereign.html?view=timeslide No pen can suffice to describe his greatness only attempts can be made.
  11. A history of the neo-Chaupai Sahib. A plea-ful ballad wrought by Guru Gobind Singh Ji to depict the supreme dominance of his monotheistic entity, the 'Kabiyo Bach Bentai Chaupai' was an early victim of Colonial interests during the Anglo-Sikh Wars. Captivated by the mystical initiative imparted by the Khalsa ethos, the Colonial administration despite professing an ardent belief in extreme Abrahamic doctrines was not above indulging in subtle superstitious norms. Incorporating various intelligence emissaries in it's diplomatic delegations to Punjab, the latter hoped to learn the pivotal expressions behind the Khalsa's iron grip upon militant sovereignty. Various analyzations and essaying procedures presented a similar conclusion, highlighting the factor that the Khalsa's socio-textual heritage granted it an almost supernatural willpower which refused to bend under any decisive pressure. Refuting such a 'preposterous notion,' as perceived by the colonial nucleus, the latter dispatched a military agent Captain Murray who was tasked with preparing an elaborate exegesis upon the Khalsa universe and presenting it to the East India Company's military nerve center. Presenting himself as an arduous Bona Fide emissary tasked with advancing the perceived cordial relations between the Khalsa Court and the British Regency, the latter succeeded in assuring the assistance of the elusive Akali-Nihung, Ratan Singh Bhangu. As per Murray's instructions, and the Khalsa court's patronage, Bhangu prepared an excessive memorabilia visualizing the Khalsa's arduous struggle against the sub-continent's xenophobic Islamic rulers and multi-faceted Hindu traitors. His work, aptly entitled 'Sri Gur Panth Prakash' or the Guru's Adherence to Political Sovereignty, was dispatched to the heads of the Colonial polity in Britain and extensively combed through to identify the Khalsa's vulnerable heel. Realizing that the scriptural canons adhered to by the latter were a repository of fundamental and orthodox strength a bid was made, in the aftermath of the Khalsa empire's annexation into Colonial domains, to establish a new superficial evolution of the puritanical Khalsa and render it obsolete in face of Christian advances. Realizing the intensive influence of the Khalsa's heterogeneous parallels, the Akali-Nihungs; Udasis, Nirmalas etc. The later Colonial polity sought to establish a Catholicized precedent via establishing a census to identify and taxonomize the varied traditions permeating the sub-continent. To this end it emboldened various fundamental reformers-cum-revivalists such as the nefarious Arya-Samaj and the decisive Singh-Sabha to ingrain an evolved notion of 'faith' and 'religion' in the minds of their respective adherents. Both movements were constructed via a subtle European influence and easily dismantled the core functionaries of their respective faiths giving vent to intensively fallacious diatribes. Various enlistees of the Singh-Sabha 'revolution' launched an unwarranted offensive against their heterogeneous counterparts, catalyzing in the latter's alienation from the general mainstream. With the commencement of the latter movement's periodical influence into the early 1900's, the Colonial/Missionary aim was rendered blatantly mistimed in face of the various Khalsa revolutions birthed to eradicate all Christian, Hindu and Islamic influences from Punjab. Unfettered, however the regional Punjab polity dispatched the idiotic Teja Singh Bahasuria to render the very canonical heart of the Khalsa obsolete by birthing a new Adi Guru Granth. The Teja manuscript would be passed off as a historical artifact of paramount importance due to it's deliberate exclusion of the 'Raagmala' and be pertained as the authentic Guru of the panth. Teja's imbecilic execution failed, yet the latter succeeded in engineering a new design. The vilification and exclusion of the Dasam Granth from panthic circles. Revered on par with the Adi Guru Granth, the latter canon, parallel to the Sarbloh Granth, was traditionally paid obeisance to and was seen as a scriptural entity of the Guru's body. “Gur Nanak Puran Avtar...Agaya Pai Akaal Ki Tabhi Chalayo Panth Sabb Sikhon Ko hukam hai Guru Maneyo Granth. Dohra: Aad Guru te Dasam Loh Granth Panth Ki Tek. Gehe Puran Thiya Granth Yeh Daya Sarb Har Ek”. 'Guru Nanak is the full manifestation of the lord... only with the latter's blessings did the panth manifest. All Sikhs are commanded to obey the edicts of the holy Granth. This Granth consists of the Adi Guru Granth, the tenth (Dasam) and all-metal (Sarbloh) Granth. These shall consist as entities of veneration for the path and shall herewith be viewed as a singular entity.' -Giani Gian Singh Nirmala, 'Naveen Panth Prakash,' Vol.1, pg. 1840. With the advent of the 1920's, and the formation of the anti-puritanical SGPC, the 'Chaupai Sahib,' among other parallel sibling writings, was excessively shortened and vilified. Consisting of 27 poetic analyzations, it was deliberately minimized to 25 and perpetually reiterated at the Khalsa Vatican, the Darbar Sahib. Under Teja's equally imbecilic contemporary, Giani Kartar Singh Kalasiwala, the dual compositions of 'Chaupai Sahib' were expelled and various traditional norms were discarded. Via the guise of polarity and an Utopian infrastructure, the Khalsa's historic emphasis on retaining weaponry and a militant blue uniform was discarded. This brought the modernist mainstream in conflict with the traditional entities such as the Akali-Nihungs and the various educational entities promoting a puritanical perspective on the Khalsa ethos. Veiling their nefarious elemental offensives via reiterating the need for a 'Sikhism' (the suffix was an European addition to vilify the entire ethos), the latter succeeded in ousting the Akali-Nihung Singh Khalsa from the Akal-Takhat and excessively sidelining and stratifying the Udasis. The Akali-Nihungs commenced an arduous preservation of the various puritanical manuscripts which housed the authentic undiluted essayed essences of the Gurus. An operation which was revamped under the late Akali-Nihung Santa Singh who obtained and operated a printing press at Anandpur Sahib, which commenced an extensive printing of authentic scriptural treatises. Simultaneously various historic orders and schools also established a similar norm, a course which was heavily targeted by the neo-generation of modern Sikhs. The contemporary 'Chaupai' commences from 'Hamree Karo Hath De Racha,' and concludes at 'Gobind Das Tuhar.' It does not house the honorary 'Kirpa Kari ham par Jagmata,' or the 'Arril' nomenclature. Various arguments have been advanced for the latter portions expulsion, but it seems that the expulsion was a choice of random exclusion and there was no operational procedure constructed for the execution. Esoterically a shortened canon, such as the Gurus' recorded reiterations, presents an inescapable abyss, one which threatens to engulf the virgin panth. It is up to the contemporary panthic generation to preserve it's puritanical heritage and re-establish it's historic supremacy. http://tisarpanth.blogspot.co.nz/2013/08/the-minimized-request.html Now I have a facebook page people. So no need for you to say I ignore your righteous criticism. https://www.facebook.com/Tisarpanth
  12. Life of an outcast – Only a few will relate by Butch Singh As I sit here in my jail cell knowing I will get out when I am an old man with white hair, I reminisce of the days our unit was tight and full of life. The days we had belief and confidence in our own people. We were naive, fresh and full of energy, from the streets we got into the Sikhi scene to make a difference to the onslaught that our community was facing. But first we had to wake people up on to what was happening, what a task that was init self as our community likes to bury their heads in the sand. When you try and wake people up instead of support a lot of Sikhs will claim that you are attention seeking (until <banned word filter activated> hits their doorstep then their tone changes). I used to read Sikh history and two things that stood out were Granth and Panth. These are the 2 things that make a Sikhs mentality unique. They also gave all our past shaheeds their strength and passion. The Mistake us naive reformed Sikhs make is that we think that both Granth and Panth are still there. Obviously the Granth is still here as the Gurbani has not been changed and the power is the same. But the Panth has gone weak; there are so many divisions, views, and hidden agendas, that the Sikh community is only a community in theory on paper. When you read Sikh history and do not have much experience with modern day Sikhs you assume everyone is on the same Panthic vibe as the ancient Sikhs, but the deeper we got into it the more we found out, that not many had the pure Panthic spirit that was once there in our past. That same spirit which made our History Glorious was missing from the majority of nowadays Sikhs. If you look at our history it is not surprising we had so many warriors, it was the community spirit and hope that gave you a certain percentage of bravery to fight wars for your people. Nowadays we have so many victims and rarely ever any warriors, the media is full of incidents of Sikhs being victims, but very rarely do you see a heroic story. The truth is a lot of people have lost hope in the community due to bad experiences and tend to live as outkasts as they feel rejected and do their own thing. When most of the community is doing their own ting, there is a gap in information and help (community cohesion). When there is a gap like that it becomes a community’s weakness and produces uneducated and unaware Sikhs who become easy targets. It is hard to shout out unity when the core of the so called Panth (if that even exists these days) is corrupted with haters, egos, hidden agendas, snakes, Fakes and backstabbers. Bad experiences lead you to become isolated from and bitter towards your own community. When you reach this stage you tend to lose hope in your community and live your life as an outkast who is weary and never opens their heart like they once did. When your own community hurts you and betrays you more than your enemies do, what do you expect to produce from such results? When I look around I see more and more outkasts that are losing hope in their community. There are too many issues within our own people that have broken our community spirit and are pushing people away from Panthic thinking. Some wounds are too hard to heal especially when the same wound has been opened up many times again and again. I am not writing this as a negative article, or to push people away from the panth. I am relating the reality of how some people as such as I feel. It is sad that we have become outkasts but this is the times we live in. Your sincerely Butch Singh, HMP Brixton 01/11/2013 P.s Happy Bandi Chor Diwas, and May Sikhs free themselves from the doom and gloom that we cause to our own with our foul ways! This article is not some cry baby <banned word filter activated>, it is unfortunately how a lot of people from the streets feel! I have heard about Khalsa Aids work for the shaheeds families of 1984 that is a step in the right direction to heal the wounded spirit. We trust no worldly authority and are never blind to the flaws of worldly governments; all my real Singhs stay true.
  13. I had this question in my mind from 4-5 months.... I had a conversation with a sikh...... He said Khalsa panth is our 12th Guru..... Is it so? How panth is Guru?
  14. Wahegurujikakhalsawahegurujikifateh What do you think the role of the Dharamsala/Gurudwara Sahib is? What was the intended role as per puratan literature? What changes can we make as individuals to allow it to achieve these goals? Wahegurujikakhalsawahegurujikifateh
  15. To begin: Why do I post stuff like this: Most are scared not of 'death' but of a 'charge' for which they do 'time' knowing 'law I know with god's will I can always beat the charge; the only alternative is to kill me, which is w.e To start The facts: 1. System exists with our consent. 2. The system is based on a lie. 3. A lie always has some truth in it 4. A lie cannot ever win against the truth 5. A truth is a more efficient and stronger version of a lie (read on this is an edit in ref. to a point about system can't fight itself and a point later on at end of situation section). Preamble: The real rulers and elites are those with IMF, world bank, etc. the ones who control money. Countries using a fiat currency are by definition bankrupt, as their currency is not backed by anything. This is why they freely give away their wares, and have people signing up as wards of a corporation (non-living entity). A corporation does not have to be commercial in nature. Therefore, aiming at the government is not the long target but is the main one to do. With Raaj you can control your financial system. There is not a government conspiracy, any conspiracy is at a much-much higher level. (no conspiracy, bankers know how money works i.e just a signature but just keep it hidden from public, and restrict banks from exhanging promisorry notes for 'dollars' as an example) TL;DR Government doesn't rule, and while taking down alone is an effort; using even peaceful but offensive methods (prosecution, liens, etc.) numbers much higher than most terrorist cells are not required (3-4 per town/district targeting highest people). However, just like insurgencies mass support is required and the more the merrier. The knowledge must be spread, or you turn into high-value easy to take-down targets yourselves. Section 1: The Government: 1. If we analyze the government we see that the shield of ignorance cast over our eyes, is on their eyes as well. I would doubt if cm's knew about the real nature of law, or even the Indian constitution as India being a very connected, and young country has not had time to build a political class that is socially separated from the people the same way as Canada for example. The rural nature of the country could also account for this. (i.e governmental workers are much more known and connected to poplace than other places) (apne are with them). TL;DR they are not smarter than you. 2. The untouchability the higher-ups feel will put them in legal trouble, as they may they do not need to reply to legal notices. 3. They are incompetent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle 4. While they are corrupt and incompetent, they are not knowingly working against themselves. I.e will not purposely promote duffars if they can help it. 5. They are already selfish people, with corrupt interests and 'There is no honor among thieves'. Easy to make them fight against each other. See 6 6. The system, (government) is designed like any corporation, with limited liability in mind. However, you are ALWAYS personally liable for any crimes you commit. See 7 for why this is important. 7. It is the default course of action, to discard a worker who is too expensive in up-keep (i.e scandals, too much cases against, liens, etc.) 8. Previous cases etc. have not worked because the system is designed to handle small amounts of dis-content. 9. Channels to vent dis-content and dis-arm it exist in all places no exceptions (all countries). (I.e regulatory bodies, de facto statutory courts, etc.) 10. These are only to mis-lead, and mis-direct people in order to dissuade them from acknowledging and realizing their own range (i.e can target top to bottom, anyone, anytime, everywhere). (Shastar Vidhiya: Understand Range) 11. System is designed to function regardless of leader-ship changes, and power is spread throughout to mitigate disaster’s such Indira/Rajiv killings. Strategy: An armed populace (both knowledge, and physical) who is able to overwhelm the walls of the system is the best course of action. This group must be ever open, and expanding in order to prevent a complete clamp/stamp down of it. A traditional structure of intelligent leaders, and dumbed down recruits will not work as each must be able to to conquer alone. (sava lakh seh ek). Cannot discount value of moral victories, and structures must be in place in order to train new people who join as it is much harder to teach a person gyan than it is to load rockets, and bullets. The system has worked by being rigid and un-moving, a principle that has earned it respect and fear in the eyes of people; it is not designed to be able to counter a threat which is directly a more refined version of itself i.e using focused over-whelming force, to destroy leaders while sparing followers who are not immediate threat. They themselves after slowly having their turtle break away, will submit and come to you giving you rule. At thatpoint, it is up to the Sikh to make correct decision based on gurmat. An example of this is, Baba Baghel Singh and Delhi. Situation: The MO of government has changed from being overwhelmingly based on violence, as it runs contrary to the myths and assumptions this society is based on. Also, a west vs. easy dichotomy is there with India acting alone but wanting/needing to stay on west's side and vice-versa. They play off each other, India acting a bit nicer, west a bit meaner to give a world-wide view of 'democracy'. I hope my points have come across, I'm tired and I understand what my next correct actions have to be (hopefully). Past that, I hope you understand you have to start in your own neighborhood, in order to gain skills, experience, and people. Realize everything is connected, and that an ounce of freedom in Canada is worth a pound elsewhere. --- The system is the same everywhere, same structure same EVERYTHING. Everything, is connected so breaking it here, breaks it elsewhere. However, we don't have to free the world to free the Khalsa (or The Punjab) as we are people of unlimited liability free in their actions and therefore able to have focus, and vision. The system, is more like a hammer able only to strike out at random, and the actions people within that structure are able to take are limited by: 1. their own morals vs. situation 2. their posts 3. public support, etc. We don't need the support of the public, or any of that as Truth always wins vs. lies. -- When I said before that system is not designed to win against a better version of itself, I meant that a lie always has some truth in it, but can never stand up to the whole thing. VJKVJF Can't find original white paper anymore read it a few months ago: http://apdforum.com/en_GB/article/rmiap/articles/online/features/2012/04/05/india-terror-strategy edit - this may be http://journals.hil.unb.ca/index.php/jcs/article/view/4293/4888 what I read not sure now, but yea just google counter-insurgency doctrine to see how they will deal with this stuff. Paper details here: kept at bottom to improve readability of my own points: which uses a four point strategy for counter-insurgency: 1. Suspend demo gov. start president rule Reason: Respect/Fear from stable centre rule, as well as the obvious things (deploy force, etc.) because of internal processes see 11. 2. Flood area with security forces Reason: Forces severely under-budgeted, under-equipped, and under-trained. Do nothing more than resort to thuggery, and eventually something happens. Also, fun-times for commanders and show of force to rest of public for respect/fear in order to win support for continued budget increases. Third point, to limit AO of insurgents see point 3 3. Target Militant Leaders but spare followers Reason: Causes dis-array, and lowers morale as often the most knowledgeable ones are the leaders, and due to point 2 as well as infrastructure of country avg. people are not at full potential. (true with any army, including lok sabha) 4. Force elections, return to 'normalcy' Reason: Show of power, that I can do this and that. To exhaust people mentally, not full analysis. It's their own bs pretty much, can look at it in many ways: army, and police want new kind of females to do mass rapes of, they want 'democracy', keep out of eye of western public, w.e w.e They act without reason, they are still human, and due to being sheltered and focused on tyranny the saying that criminals have low iq applies. What is definition of insurgency: Let us define it as actions taken to change and/or topple the current infrastructure and government. Therefore, a peaceful action such as prosecuting police officers with a certain mind-state is in fact insurgency. edit- Spelling edit2- Dam, word messed up my formatting fixed now hopefully but not orig way I meant it to read. :C
  16. This is a great article by Dr. Sukhpreet Singh Udoke on Ashutosh Noormaliy. Published in the Sant Sipahi Magazine in May 2002
  17. Here is a book by Panth Rattan Giani Maan Singh Ji Jour called "Maan Aas Ghnayri" hope this book benefits the Sangat. Giani Maan Singh Ji book
  18. http://tisarpanth.wordpress.com/about/
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