Does Sikh Believes In Reincarnation?

[Harmeet Singh]

Ang 1366

Kabeer, it is so difficult to obtain this human body; it does not just come over and over again.

It is like the ripe fruit on the tree; when it falls to the ground, it cannot be re-attached to the branch. ||30||

Punjabi Translation

http://www.gurugranthdarpan.com/1366.html

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WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Yup we do.

Reincarnation only comes coz of bad deeds, and coz of not including the naam in your life etc.

It makes sense because:

If someone was born e.g. a cusra,

then what kind of life have they got?

Cant have children, cant get married, what future do they have?

You might of saw that programme on excuse me please i think on apha etc punjabi about cusrai that satinder satti presented.

You must of herd how the cusrai really feel, how sad they were and a little child even said (probs about 6-7) that they wish no one else is born a cusra etc. (not too sure it was either the child or the elder ones who said it). But i defnetly remeber both the child and elder ones were sad coz being a cusra.

If they never had bad deeds in th past, then why ae they getting punished like this, a lifetime punishment?

Temporary punishment is totally different, e.g. getting sad about cant afford something at a particular time in your life. This is to make you suffer to get you closer to God. But this problem can be overcome as you can become rich oneday-its possiable. Where as i mentioned above paragraph about cusrai thats like a lifetime punishment coz it cant be overcome in this life.

And if you think about it, it makes sense because if the deeds are bad from the last life then God wants them to go to Heaven but before that he wants them to realise God and become a good religious person, so this suffering is to remind them of God all the time, that the only solution to thier problems is God.

Whereas temporary problems are their for the rest of us people to keep on reminding us of God from time to time and again so we can reach to Heaven etc too.

We believe in Hevean/ salvation also. which can be obtained by following Gurbani and becoming a gurmukh. And when you get rid of the five vices etc

Please forgive me if im wrong, and tell me to edit the post if it sounds too harsh or summet.

WAHGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

[kds1980]

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sikhism beleives in reincarnation

AYsy Gr hm bhuqu bswey ] (326-1, gauVI, kbIr jI)

aisay ghar ham bahut basaa-ay.

I lived in many such homes, O Lord,

jb hm rwm grB hoie Awey ]1] rhwau ] (326-1, gauVI, kbIr jI)

jab ham raam garabh ho-ay aa-ay. ||1|| rahaa-o.

before I came into the womb this time. ||1||Pause||

jogI jqI qpI bRhmcwrI ] (326-2, gauVI, kbIr jI)

jogee jatee tapee barahamchaaree.

I was a Yogi, a celibate, a penitent, and a Brahmchaaree, with strict self-discipline.

kbhU rwjw CqRpiq kbhU ByKwrI ]2] (326-2, gauVI, kbIr jI)

kabhoo raajaa chhatarpat kabhoo bhaykhaaree. ||2||

Sometimes I was a king, sitting on the throne, and sometimes I was a beggar. ||2||

swkq mrih sMq siB jIvih ] (326-2, gauVI, kbIr jI)

saakat mareh sant sabh jeeveh.

The faithless cynics shall die, while the Saints shall all survive.

[Heera Singh]

also.. check this shabad...

http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=2883

hau AwieAw dUrhu cil kY mY qkI qau srxwie jIau ]

isn't that refering to 'chaurasee lakh joo(n)'..?

[Harmeet Singh]

You didn't get my point, I am wondering what Kabir sahib meant by

It is like the ripe fruit on the tree; when it falls to the ground, it cannot be re-attached to the branch. ||30||

Does that mean when we die we can't get human life again?

[Gupt daasan daas]

the sikhi sence of reincarnation may not be exactly wat u heard about

in sikhi there is reincarnation

but accordin to urekaram u are choose for a joon

becuase of great fortune u now have a human body

this life form will NOT be given to u again

u will be reincarnated, into somethine other than human joon

so use ure time while u have time

bhula chuka maf

[kds1980]

the sikhi sence of reincarnation may not be exactly wat u heard about

in sikhi there is reincarnation

but accordin to urekaram u are choose for a joon

becuase of great fortune u now have a human body

this life form will NOT  be given to u again

u will be reincarnated, into somethine other than human joon

so use ure time while u have time

bhula chuka maf

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so if a person is born mentally retarded will he get another joon.also read the

shabad i have posted above kabir ji mentioned about his diffrent human lives

[Gupt daasan daas]

im sure veer je uve read in gurbanee that this joon will not come again

because of very good karm, u CAN get human joon, again, iF U VERY LUCKY

like u do bhagthee in mounitains, try all sorts of religous paths, u might be LUCKY enough to become human agai

through extreme ways ofbhagthee

stuff that in kaljug now i in like a billion will be able to do

if a person is born mentally retarded

that is due to there karm

now wat happens to that person after death im not sure

maybe they have served ther saja as retarded person, and now will be sent into human roop again to do bhagthee

but human joon in general for majortiyy of population will not come again, THIS IS URE TIME

bhula chuka maf

[UntitledSingh]

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Actually Gurbani uses reincarnation and (heaven-hell) as metaphors, the Gurus taught to just concentrate on this life.

[Gupt daasan daas]

this is one thing borrowd from buddhism

guur je doesnt use these as mere metaphors

guru je says there is temparay hevaen, temprary hell, and for sure ure soul does get reincarnated

but u are right veer je just ocncentrare on ure bhagthee here and now

bhula chuka maf