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We are living in trying times, I am conducting a questionairre of 10 questions:

Please feel free to answer in one blog or individual answers.

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1. What are your views on Islamic Jihad, especially the London tube bombings on 7/7 ?

2. Do you generally fear muslims or Islamists ?

3. What are your opinions of a Pan-Islamic State, where the Koran (an inanimate object) is considered 'The Leader' ?

4. Do you beleive that mixing politics and religion creates more problems than answers ?

5. What are your opinions about Osama Bin Laden, when he says that Western countries are oppressing all muslims ?

6. What are your views on the concept of compassion to other beings ?

7. What are your views on President Bush ?

8. What are your views on other Religious Icons, like Christ, The Buddha, Moses, Zoroaster ?

8. Do you beleive that freedonm of expression is a good thing ?

9. What do you understand by the term 'Pantheism' ?

10. What religions would you say were Pantheist ?

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1. Islam is distorted, has been for ages. There are many different castes of Islam, they have different interpretations of the Koran. extremist Muslim preachers twist Islamic ideologies, brainwashing youth turning them agaisnt 'non believers'.

One extreme mullah was abu hamza here in the UK. I remember few years back someone secretly cam corded one of his speeches. abu hamza said quite a allot of 'shyt', 1 thing he said, I vaguely remember was that 'it was okay to steal from another, as long as theyr non believers.

2. I place my faith in almighty god, waheguru, akal purakh. No fear.

3. which version of the koran?

4.in the case of 'extreme' versions of islam, i.e wa.habi and sunni islam, then yeah, many more problems.

5.i wonder what osama bin ladens opinion of islamic nations (the ones who adopt their distorted extreme version of islam) opressing other faiths and cultures, past & present.

7. in his case Its all about the money.

8. i answer the rest anotha time.

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1.) anything that kills innocent people is a huge sin, and shud never be done

2.) guur jes sikhs fear no one

especially muslim terrorists, our sikhs history show tha we dont need to fear them, the muslims who attacked innocents were defeated by guru je

there empire crumbled

but not all muslims r bad

only the ones tha think its ok o kill inncents

check out sufis

3)

if muslims wish to have there own state, with quran being leader, i cant object

as long as minority rights arnt taken away, which i think will happen in tha situation

if islaam wishes to make there own country, in the middle east, lik somewhere in meecca, let em

let them have quran as leader

its not really our buisness

as long as nobodys elses rights are being intruded on

like forcing everyone to do wat muslims do is wrong

let everyone walk there own path

but in an area where many muslinms such as middle east, let them make there own islamic country

4)i do not belive mixing religon and politics is a bad thing

if u do it properly, politics shud become a clean game

where all have love for everyone

but these dayz people dont care bout god

they use policis and religion as a mean to gain intrests for there own needs

if one can see god in all, then everything wud be alrihght in politics

if one is truly a religos person, then it is good to mix with religon with politics

if someone who doesnt really care bout religon trys to mix it with politics arguments wil break out

only people who are deluded int he dark thinking there religous but fight and fight will make thing worse

a tru relgious person, a tru servant of vahegur, wil not fight in politics, but rather resepct everyone

it wud be a good thing ten to mix religon and politics

5)osama bin ladens cause, parts of it, is justified

but his means of gettin freedom are horrible are wrong

if he wishes to have the middle east rid of american armies, i cannot object

y shud i

y does america need to go and butt into middle east, stationing there troops there, attacking countries like iraq tha never had anythin to o with 9/11

iamerica wants the wealth of tha land region

it cares nothin for the people

i agree, if i was in tha position, i wud fight bak to get rid of them

BUT

bin laden is compeltly wrong in attacking inceonts

if he wants to fight, let him fight the soldiers face to face

no suicie bombings aimed at inncents

6)compassion is esential

in sikhi there is the concept of saint soldier

one must be a sant as well as a soldier to defend truth, and fight agasint tyranny

one must show compassion to all beings

for god is in all, not some

or some special race like the isrealites

god is in all

in everthing he has created, he resides in

just like if there is a ttree

its fruits have the tree inside them

how does the fruit have the tree inside it?

the seed

god is like the tree

we are like the fruit

gods light is in us as well

just like there is the trees seed in its fruit

god is in everthing he has created

compassion to all lbeings is neccesary if one wishes to become one with god

7)

i dunt kno much about president bush

but it seems like he has a real problem blaming people who had nothin to do with 9/11

9/11 had nothin to do with iraq

bush wants the oil

hes sending soldiers who cud be with there families overseas

hes putting soldiers in risk for nothin

hes killin inncoents in iraq

his war is not justified

even the un agreed on this

but he thought he knows more than all countires in world now

bush needs to think bout wat hes doin

8) i respect jesus chirst, buddha, mohaamaad, all as great saints

let everyone travel there own path

stop tryin to convert others, be like me, be like me

just travel ure own path until u find the truth compeltly, with no doubt

and keep on goin on tha

if someone wishes to practice there religon, let them

if u want to have discussion, go ahead, just dont argue and fight

mostly i can say tha i cant really say anythin bout jesus of nazerath

because he wrote nothin

no one knows wat he taught

everythin was written after his death

but from some of his storie, i can see he was a good hearted man

and a good person

in most sotries

buddha was a very good saint

an extreme bhagath, someone absorbed in medidtation

people think buddhism does not belive god

well, buddha did not belive in worshippin the devthai

i agree

but he never commentd on one god

buddha was a great soul

whos message of love

and the religon people follow today, buddhism, is a great religon of compassion

respect all paths, and travel ure owns in peace

9)well if the defintion of tha is god is in everything, than sikhism wud be panthism

hinduism wud be tha also

god resides in everything

he has no limits

he has no form

for more information, read jaap sahib written by guru gobind singh je

it lists praises of god, and gives description of god

u have to read it to see wat im talkin bout

hinduism belive in brahm

one brahm prevading everywhere

which takes forms

i guess for tha wed have to read all religos scriptures,

and contemplate them

contemplation is the key

if we dont think bout some things, deeply, meditate, obviously we wont understand them:)

i had to write this in a hurry, so any mistak, sorry

bhula chuka maf

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We are living in trying times, I am conducting a questionairre of 10 questions:

Please feel free to answer in one blog or individual answers.

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1. What are your views on Islamic Jihad, especially the London tube bombings on 7/7 ?

2. Do you generally fear muslims or Islamists ?

3. What are your opinions of a Pan-Islamic State, where the Koran (an inanimate object) is considered 'The Leader' ?

4. Do you beleive that mixing politics and religion creates more problems than answers ?

5. What are your opinions about Osama Bin Laden, when he says that Western countries are oppressing all muslims ?

6. What are your views on the concept of compassion to other beings ?

7. What are your views on President Bush ?

8. What are your views on other Religious Icons, like Christ, The Buddha, Moses, Zoroaster ?

8. Do you beleive that freedonm of expression is a good thing ?

9. What do you understand by the term 'Pantheism' ?

10. What religions would you say were Pantheist ?

Thank you  :gg:

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Dear Atheist,

Please answer some questions yourself before you ask people to answer yours.

1. Would you disclose your real identity?

2. What is purpose of your survey.?

3. Who is going to use the data so collected and for what purpose?

4. You claim yourself to be an atheist ( from your user name). So are you aware that this site about Sikhs? You being an atheist, do you know that there is a religion called Sikhi?

5. Do you know that Sikhism is one of the 5 largest religions? (What you have written so far does not seem to reflect that you have much knowledge of Sikhism read your question

>>> “ What are your views on other Religious Icons, like Christ, The Buddha, Moses, Zoroaster ? “ <<< ---- You don’t even seem to know which “Icons” are related to Sikhism)

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So , please disclose your identity and state the purpose for which the survey is being conducted.

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Request to Mods and Admin.

The survey, that this person is conducting does not seem to be so innocent. If this person does not disclose who he/she is and which organization he /she is conducting this poll for, I request that you remove all posts posted by this person.

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Khalsa Ji, Mahan Singh is right.

Before anyone starts answering any questions one should step back and think - who is asking the questions, why is he asking these questions, why is he not giving his full name, what is the info to be used for.

We need to consider these questions FIRST before we all jump in feet first and start answering his questions.

Note - all questions relate to Islam, why? what has that got to do with this forum?

So, Khalsa Ji don't be too trusting find out the credentials of the person BEFORE parting with any information.

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Yeah, especially the "i hate bush" posts. BEt he dusnt care abt the other constructive posts but quote these 2... jst 2 show us in bad light...

the ques seem 2 point that we are muslims.. w8.. we're NOT!! a musliom will never wear a dumalla :nihungsmile: (hey good solution for ID purposes.. every1 wear dumala wid chand.. that way theres no excuse in mistaking a turbanned muslim with a singh!! wot u fink :) )

I'm just wondering atheist.. what are your views on the BNP? or the BNF?

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Please don't feel paranoid, they're just simple questions! Let me answer yours since.....

1. I would if it was a compulsory pre-requisite to join the forum for all users, and applied to all joiners based on some terms of equality! But as far as I can see NO ONE else is using their own name, social security code, address, phone no. etc...

2. To gain some opinion on how to deal with the risinng tide of narrow religious fundamentalism, (not that I'm implying all faiths are that way inclined)

3. Nobody, it's already on the net?!?

4. Yes?

5. Well, there wouldn't be much point in asking you a question to which you have the obvious answer, it would be more interesting and challenging to prove that your not ignorant of others beliefs including Atheism!

Someone else asked what do I think of the BNP?

Well, from what I understand in the media, some Sikh groups have joined forces with the BNP to stop forced conversions of 'infidels' true or not , can't say ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1528828.stm

My own personal take is that, any organisation that is based on exclusion or shunning is not a very good one. I don't know why you may (or may not ) have got an impression I was a BNP supporter ???

11. A final question if I may (pretty simple) is do Sikhs eat halal meat ? or is it forbidden as someone told me - Thanks

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You are not required to answer these questions, this is a Sikh message board, and not one question is about Sikhi, you can answer his/her questions, but it would not lead to anything, and just be a waste of time, as there is plenty of information online about those questions, no need to ask here :TH:

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