Evolution - Views ?

[Hot Sausage]

What is the Sikh view on Evolution and human intelligence.

Only intelligent answers please

[Singh Sher]

What is the Sikh view on Evolution and human intelligence.

Only intelligent answers please   

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YEH - ive always wondered that as well - good question!

Anyone???

WJKK WJKF!!!

[Jai Tegang!]

your display pic is offensive...and so is your name....but more so the picture

off topic, but i don't care..muahaha

[Hot Sausage]

Why is my pic offensive ?

[sher_panjabi]

Some Gurbaani quotes, but Sri GUru Granth Sahib Ji is full of science, you to research and read. Here's one or two things:

swcy qy pvnw BieAw pvnY qy jlu hoie ]

From the True Lord came the air (oxygen), and from the air came water.

jl qy iqRBvxu swijAw Git Git joiq smoie ]

From water, He created the three worlds; in each and every heart He has infused His Light.

inrmlu mYlw nw QIAY sbid rqy piq hoie ]3]

The Immaculate Lord does not become polluted. Attuned to the Shabad, honor is obtained. ||3||

(Siri Raag, Ang 19, SGGS)

suMn klw AprMpir DwrI ]

In the Primal Void, the Infinite Lord assumed His Power.

Awip inrwlmu Apr ApwrI ]

He Himself is unattached, infinite and incomparable.

Awpy kudriq kir kir dyKY suMnhu suMnu aupwiedw ]1]

He Himself exercised His Creative Power, and He gazes upon His creation; from the Primal Void, He formed the Void. ||1||

pauxu pwxI suMnY qy swjy ]

From this Primal Void, He fashioned air and water.

isRsit aupwie kwieAw gV rwjy ]

He created the universe, and the king in the fortress of the body.

Agin pwxI jIau joiq qumwrI suMny klw rhwiedw ]2]

Your Light pervades fire, water and souls; Your Power rests in the Primal Void.

Read Full Shabad

(Maaroo, Ang 1037, SGGS)

hir Awpy pMc qqu ibsQwrw ivic DwqU pMc Awip pwvY ]

The Lord Himself directs the evolution of the world of the five elements; He Himself infuses the five senses into it.

jn nwnk siqguru myly Awpy hir Awpy Jgru cukwvY ]2]3]

O servant Nanak, the Lord Himself unites us with the True Guru; He Himself resolves the conflicts. ||2||3||

(Bairaarree, Ang 719, SGGS)

Science proves that Creation began from water. Water is the source of life, which is the first thing where the creative evolution begins from. Gurbaani, the Truth, tell us this time and time again. :lol: Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Bhai Gurdaas Ji, who interprets Gurbaani, and a contemporary of the first Six Guru Sahibaans says:

vyd kqybhuM bwhrw lyK AlyK n liKAw jweI]

God is beyond Vedas and katebas (holy books of Semitic religions) and He  cannot be visualized.

rUp AnUp Acrj hY drSn idRSit Agocr BweI]

His form is grand and awe-inspiring. He is beyond  the reach of body organs.

iek kvwau pswau kr qol n qulw Drn smweI]

He created this cosmos by His one big bang  which cannot be weighed on any scale....

[Hot Sausage]

Water:- ie Hydrogen & Oxygen ?

Life, according to scientific research (that means no superstitious assumuptions here chaps) came from amino acids embedded in debris from flying comets that arrived on Earth and possibly other planetary units from the positive evidence we have.

[Gupt daasan daas]

im studying this right now

sceince is lost

its full of incompelte half proven theroies

it can also be called a faith, sceintists just belive in that

they cannot prove anything

im not sayuing sikhi is agasint evolution

perhaps vaheguru used evolution as a means of creating life

sure

y not

BUT

sceince is no way near complete

it changes theories al the time

ive said this before

man cannot easily comphrehend these type of things

we cann only ASSUME

WE CANNOT yet PROVE

anything at all

and all life did eventually begin with water, all LIFE

without water life wud not have been possible

thus y so far earth is the only planet we have identified to have life

because so far its the only planet we have identified that has large sources of watr

bhula chuka maf

[sher_panjabi]

kvxu su vylw vKqu kvxu kvx iQiq kvxu vwru ]

What was that time, and what was that moment? What was that day, and what was that date?

kvix is ruqI mwhu kvxu ijqu hoAw Awkwru ]

What was that season, and what was that month, when the Universe was created?

vyl n pweIAw pMfqI ij hovY lyKu purwxu ]

The Pandits, the religious scholars, cannot find that time, even if it is written in the Puraanas.

vKqu n pwieE kwdIAw ij ilKin lyKu kurwxu ]

That time is not known to the Qazis, who study the Koran.

iQiq vwru nw jogI jwxY ruiq mwhu nw koeI ]

The day and the date are not known to the Yogis, nor is the month or the season.

jw krqw isrTI kau swjy Awpy jwxY soeI ]

The Creator who created this creation-only He Himself knows.

Ang 4, SGGS

nicely said by Guru Ji :lol:

[Bhajneet]

As Einstein said:

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."

Our Baani is full of Science which we've readily shown you. It is the main reason why i like Sikhism so much, because it makes sense. Whereas you have rituals and other things (wine is converted by a priest to Jesus' Blood, etc.) in other religions.

I dont want to reprimand Gupt Dasan Dass jee, but Sikhi is full of Science for a reason. And Science cannot prove the existence of God (understood, thats why there's faith), but it is a basis for religion.

[Jai Tegang!]

Science is based on manmat and budhi... i.e..based on what WE think.

Always keep that in mind when talking about religion and science.

Sikhi is based entirely on what Guruji thinks.

Some things science will get right, other things it won't.