Ddt. Baba Ram Singh

[N30S1NGH]

Satguru Sache Patshah Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Ji De Charana Da Dhiyaan Dhar Ke Sadh Sangat Gaj Ke Balao....

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Guru Roop Khalsa Jio,

Before Sant Baba Kartar Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale was given Jathedari of Damdami Taksal after Sant Giani Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale left for Sachkhand, Damdami Taksal gave Jathedari to Sant Giani Baba Kartar Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale, but then the same thing happened, Mohan Singh at Bhindran Kala created his own Jatha, but this was no problem, as both are doing Parchar for the benefit for the Panth.

But then too Jathedari of Damdami Taksal was given to Sant Giani Baba Kartar Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale, and if anyone knows of the strong connections between Sant Giani Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa, Sant Giani Baba Kartar Singh Ji Khalsa & Sant Giani Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale, you understand Taksal. Please do not try and mislead the Sikh Sangat there is only one Damdami Taksal, which is that Metha Chownk, who's Banni is Sahib E Kamal Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj, who's Jathedar Amar Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji defended Sri Darbar Sahib, and in his 14th place Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale did the same seva and with Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj's bakhshish awake & defended the Sikh Nation and Sri Darbar Sahib.

Damdami Taksal

Gurdwara Gurdarshan Parkash

Village: Mehta,

Mehta Chowk

District: Amritsar,

Panjab

Tel: 0091 1853 256426

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source: Page 9 'Gurbani Paath Darhsan.'

"Datsar-bandi Ceremoney

29 June 1969 7 am Akhand Paaths were started near Sant Maharaaj Gurbachan Singh Ji's body. On the 8th July 1969 on Tuesday the day of Dusehra behind the Akaal Kuteeaa in a very big tent Kirtan and Paath was done from the Amrit Vela and many saints gave talks about Sant Ji. At 2pm the head of the Bhindrae-Samparda Siri-Maan Sant Baba Indar Singh Ji declared that spiritually gifted Sant Mohan Singh Ji one of the most diligent student of Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji 'Khalsa' as the next Jathedar of Bhindra Samparda, according to the last wishes of Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji a gathering of all the Sants of many different Sampardas, many prominent Taksal students, both Bhindra Panchyatas and the rest of the sangat voted that Sant Mohan Singh would be the next Jathedar of the Taksal.

First 5 dastaars were tied by Sant Indar Singh and Sant Aajaeb Singh to Sant-Giani Mohan Singh's head. These dastaars were 1) From Harimandar Sahib Amritsar. 2) Samparda Bhindra. 3) Shromani Akaali Dal. 4) S.G.P.C Amritsar. 5) Nirmala Panchayaeti Akhara. Baba Mohan Singh was given siropas from all the Takhats. Then Baba Ji was given gifts and dastaars from many different head instituions.

AT this time there were many prominent people in the Panth who came to give gifts to Sant Mohan Singh...

Sant Fateh Singh Pradhan Shromani Akali Dal, Sant Chanan Singh Pradhan S.G.P.C, Pandit Sucha Singh Siri Mahant of the Nirmala Panchayaeti Akhara, Sant Naraen Singh Ludhaee Ke, Sant Kundan Singh Kalera, Sant Meeha Singh Siaar, Rare-wale Sant, Harkhowal-wale Sant, Kuhaarpuriae Sant, Sant Rann Singh, Sant Harchand Singh Laungowal, Sant Seva Singh, Sant Maan Singh Kokari, Giani Bhupinder Singh, Giani Chet Singh Head-Granthi Darbar Sahib, Giani Kapur Singh Head-Granth Sis Ganj Delhi, Amar Singh Dosanjh, Giani Shaadi Singh, Giani Gurdit Singh, Gurnaam Singh Chief-Minister Panjaab, Education Minister Sohan Singh, Jagdev Singh Talvandi, Sant Arjan Singh, Sant Sarvan Singh Bunga Mastuana, Giani Niranjan Singh, Giani Singh Rarewala, Giani Veer Singh, Giani Prem Singh Nabha, Giani Gurnam Singh Shiniwal, Giani Harnek Singh, Giani Meva Singh, Sant Kartar Singh 'Premi', Giani Karnail Singh Baduwal, Jathedar Kapur Singh Sudhar, Sant Gurbaksh Singh Harpalpur, Sant-Bhagat Ujagar Singh, the son of Sant Gurbachan Singh 'Khalsa' Bhindrawala Bhai Kartar Singh Ji, Raagi Bhagvaan Singh, Giani Gurdev Singh Calcutta, Sangat from Mumbai, prominent students of Taksaal, Raagi Jathas, the family of Sant Gurbachan Singh 'Khalsa' Bhindrawale and many more Sikh Sangat."

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[Damdami Taksal Jatha Bhindran]

Satguru Sache Patshah Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Ji De Charana Da Dhiyaan Dhar Ke Sadh Sangat Gaj Ke Balao....

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Guru Roop Khalsa Jio,

As it has been posted before on this topic by Damdami Taksal Jatha Bhindran, There was an alligation that Sant Baba Harnaam Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale performed havan at Damdami Taksal, but this is total lies:

1) Is there any proof of this apart from rumours flying around?

2) Do Sant Baba Harnaam Singh Ji Khalsa seem the type to carry this type of act out?

3) How many times in Damdami Taksal's history has a havan been carryed out at Taksal's Headquaters?

4) Would Singhs at Damdami Taksal allow sucha non-Sikh act to be carried out?

5) Wouldnt ANY of the Sant Mahapursh's that support Sant Baba Harnaam Singh Ji Khalsa spoken out against this? Even at the Vishwa Sikh Samelan?

The 5 Dastaars that was tied on Mohan Singh, go and find how many countless Dastaar's were tied by other Taksal's, Samparda's, Mahapursh's and Panthic Jathebandi's on Sant Giani Baba Kartar Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale, go and see the DVD that shows Sant Baba Harnaam Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale's Dastaarbandi, try and count if you can the amount of Sant Mahapursh's, Taksal's, Samparda's and Panthic Jathebandi's tied the Dastaar On Sant Baba Harnaam Singh Ji Khalsa.

And after that, go and find out how many Sant Mahapurshs supported Sant Baba Harnaam Singh Ji Khalsa, if you believe Mohan Singh's as the right Taksal, then that means, Sant Baba Kartar Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale, Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale & Sant Baba Takhur Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale were all wrong?

[N30S1NGH]

Why everything has to be soo black and white? Why can't there be two successesors of one teacher in this case- baba mohan singh ji and baba kartar singh ji, after all they were students of the same teacher- bhramgyani 108 sant baba gurbachan singh ji bhindranwale.

Take bhai dya singh samparda order for example- we had sants/jatehdars of same gyan avastha of same teacher.

see below chart- under baba bir singh ji naurangabad, baba karam singh ji hoti mardan, there are multiple students and they both got same blessings and seva from their teacher, i fully acknowledge the fact two successesors cannot live in a same dera (just like how two babar sher cannot live in a same area quite naturally), that's why you will see teacher with multiple students recommend their students to spread out like a huge branch. Take - baba karam singh ji hoti mardan as for example, he had 100 bhramgyanis under his guidance, they were all successors of him equally with different designated seva, they have spread out but NOT *SPILT* like a branch in a huge tree.

Sub branch within a branch is quite alright in a order(lineage). However, when within sub branch (in this case- mehta or bhindran), over zealous chelas from both sides start claiming that we are only - sub branch of sant baba gurbachan singh ji bhindranwale, that's where the problem is. This is truely work of over zealous chelas from both sides, and is not work of a senior mahapurkh sevadars. Senior mahapurkh sevadars including sant baba mohan singh ji and sant baba kartar singh ji bhindranwale would probably have nothing but respect towards each other because they have considered/acknowledged one another sub branch of damdami taksal and didn't claim supermacy of jathedari of taksal and had tolerance between each other.

Taksal is just one example. This greedness, and over zealous chelas not restricted to taksal only but they exist in all the other big orders, samparda's. These soo called fanatic chelas of an mahapursh are sometimes very cause of downfall of any order started by our Guru Sahiban.

Please be aware of them, don't make everything black and white. Learn to embrace other sub branches within branch. Benti to bhindran taksal, baba ram singh taksal, baba harnam singh ji taksal or mehta taksal lets not turn this "diversity"(sub branches) within branches of taksal into hostile division fight.

[dhanwaheguruji]

oooooooookkkkkkkk

so has anyone got any pics or vids of Baba Ram Singh dastar Bandhi ?????

(you peeps play more polatics then badal and co...)

[waheguru_fateh]

soo.. wuts a havan and get back to topic or start ure own

[Jai Tegang!]

I believe it was decided by mutual agreement that the seva of the Taksal would continue under Baba Kartar Singh ji, while Baba Mohan Singh ji would also continue the seva. The Jathedari was given to Baba Kartar Singh ji by Gyani Gurbachan Singh ji in his life time, no doubt about this.

In any case, it shouldn't matter one bit. Bhagati, seva is not hereditary. You can't become a Brahmgyani or Sant because you are part of a particular jatha. Baba Mohan Singh was very senior in age to Baba Kartar Singh ji, so it would have been very disrespectful to have him start the Taksal's seva at a new location, so Baba Kartar Singh ji in his humility left Bhinderkala for a new location. The net result was, more students were being taught with two centers of the Taksal. There s absolutely not an iota of animosity between Bhinderkala and Mehta Chownk.

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the topic my waheguru fateh is about the taksal jathedari now - I think Baba Harnam Singh's havan undermimes this. Also what ahppened to taksal's stance on the Shaheedi of Sant Jarnail Singh for 20 years we have been told that Sant Ji is still alive and now abruptly we are told sorry - made a mistake for twenty years misled - he's actually shaheed? - what type of jathedari is this...

chalo

naam japo - lol - chaddo polticial gallaa - lol

[Jai Tegang!]

^ great mudslinging

[khalistan_zindabaad]

gurfateh

hehehe this topic is funny now . . .anyway for a lot of snghs sant jarnail singh ji is the current jathedar and only time will tell. . . dhan dhan baba thakur singh ji khalsa.

sant jarnail singh ji khalsa bhindranvale ZINDABAAD

[Taksali Singh]

gurfateh

hehehe this topic is funny now . . .anyway for a lot of snghs sant jarnail singh ji is the current jathedar and only time will tell. . .  dhan dhan baba thakur singh ji khalsa.

sant jarnail singh ji khalsa bhindranvale ZINDABAAD

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Dhan Dhan Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale Mukhi Damdami Taksal Jatha Bhindran (Mehta)