Is Gristhi Jeevan A Must?

[Sarbloh Warrior]

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ke fateh

just wanted to ask the sangat whether they think gristhi jeeven is a must?? can some 1 get to akal purakh without gristhi?

i asking this because sometime i feel like just locking myself in a room 4 days n just do bhagti..

or also live like how buddist do in their temples just dedicate their whole life to meditation

[Guest Papi]

bhai dont lock yourself in the room. someone said the same thing to Baba Jarnail Singh once, and he replied bhai watever i've found i've found in sadh sangat not by locking myself in a room.

guru kirpa kare

hau mnu qnu KojI Bwil BwlweI ]

ho man than khojee bhaal bhaalaaee ||

I have searched my mind and body, through and through.

ikau ipAwrw pRIqmu imlY myrI mweI ]

kio piaaraa preetham milai maeree maaee ||

How can I meet my Darling Beloved, O my mother?

imil sqsMgiq Koju dsweI ivic sMgiq hir pRBu vsY jIau ]2]

mil sathasa(n)gath khoj dhasaaee vich sa(n)gath har prabh vasai jeeo ||2||

Joining the Sat Sangat, the True Congregation, I ask about the Path to God. In that Congregation, the Lord God abides. ||2||

[Sarbloh Warrior]

i mean stay in sangat but u cant be in sangat 24/7 sant bhindrawale locked himself in aroom 4 30/40 days according to his singhni

i mean i dont feel like going college ... just wanna sit n do bhagti

[Guest Papi]

jYsI Agin audr mih qYsI bwhir mwieAw ]

jaisee agan oudhar mehi thaisee baahar maaeiaa ||

As is the fire within the womb, so is Maya outside.

mwieAw Agin sB ieko jyhI krqY Kylu rcwieAw ]

maaeiaa agan sabh eiko jaehee karathai khael rachaaeiaa ||

The fire of Maya is one and the same; the Creator has staged this play.

jw iqsu Bwxw qw jMimAw prvwir Blw BwieAw ]

jaa this bhaanaa thaa ja(n)miaa paravaar bhalaa bhaaeiaa ||

According to His Will, the child is born, and the family is very pleased.

ilv CuVkI lgI iqRsnw mwieAw Amru vrqwieAw ]

liv shhurrakee lagee thrisanaa maaeiaa amar varathaaeiaa ||

Love for the Lord wears off, and the child becomes attached to desires; the script of Maya runs its course.

eyh mwieAw ijqu hir ivsrY mohu aupjY Bwau dUjw lwieAw ]

eaeh maaeiaa jith har visarai mohu oupajai bhaao dhoojaa laaeiaa ||

This is Maya, by which the Lord is forgotten; emotional attachment and love of duality well up.

khY nwnku gur prswdI ijnw ilv lwgI iqnI ivcy mwieAw pwieAw ]29]

kehai naanak gur parasaadhee jinaa liv laagee thinee vichae maaeiaa paaeiaa ||29||

Says Nanak, by Guru's Grace, those who enshrine love for the Lord find Him, in the midst of Maya. ||29||

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iblwvlu ]

bilaaval ||

Bilaaval:

igRhu qij bn KMf jweIAY cuin KweIAY kMdw ]

grihu thaj ban kha(n)dd jaaeeai chun khaaeeai ka(n)dhaa ||

Abandoning his household, he may go to the forest, and live by eating roots;

Ajhu ibkwr n CofeI pwpI mnu mMdw ]1]

ajahu bikaar n shhoddee paapee man ma(n)dhaa ||1||

but even so, his sinful, evil mind does not renounce corruption. ||1||

ikau CUtau kYsy qrau Bvjl iniD BwrI ]

kio shhootto kaisae tharo bhavajal nidhh bhaaree ||

How can anyone be saved? How can anyone cross over the terrifying world-ocean?

rwKu rwKu myry bITulw jnu srin qum@wrI ]1] rhwau ]

raakh raakh maerae beet(h)ulaa jan saran thumhaaree ||1|| rehaao ||

Save me, save me, O my Lord! Your humble servant seeks Your Sanctuary. ||1||Pause||

ibKY ibKY kI bwsnw qjIA nh jweI ]

bikhai bikhai kee baasanaa thajeea neh jaaee ||

I cannot escape my desire for sin and corruption.

Aink jqn kir rwKIAY iPir iPir lptweI ]2]

anik jathan kar raakheeai fir fir lapattaaee ||2||

I make all sorts of efforts to hold back from this desire, but it clings to me, again and again. ||2||

jrw jIvn jobnu gieAw ikCu kIAw n nIkw ]

jaraa jeevan joban gaeiaa kishh keeaa n neekaa ||

Youth and old age - my entire life has passed, but I haven't done any good.

iehu jIArw inrmolko kaufI lig mIkw ]3]

eihu jeearaa niramolako kouddee lag meekaa ||3||

This priceless soul has been treated as if if were worth no more than a shell. ||3||

khu kbIr myry mwDvw qU srb ibAwpI ]

kahu kabeer maerae maadhhavaa thoo sarab biaapee ||

Says Kabeer, O my Lord, You are contained in all.

qum smsir nwhI dieAwlu moih smsir pwpI ]4]3]

thum samasar naahee dhaeiaal mohi samasar paapee ||4||3||

There is none as merciful as You are, and none as sinful as I am. ||4||3||

[mann_kaum_layee_qurbaan]

you woudln't be here to post this post if it wasn't for gristhi jeevan of your parents.

Gursikhs follow in the footsteps of their guru. The gurus lived Gristh jeevan.

Bhagat ravidas ji says, sachi bhagti man tan arap. Actually today's hukamnama stresses the same. So bhagti is not done by locking oneself in a room but by offering mind and body. These is guru sahib's updesh.

easier said than done though :D

good luck bro.

waaheguru ang sang sahai

[lowest of the low singhni]

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

This was the cyber hukamnama which came before starting this post.

i always loved Gursikhi because of the concept of Gristhi Jeevan. it shows that you don't need to lock yourself up in a room to attain peace. of course Bhagti is essential, especially at Amritvela. but remember all our Guru Sahebaan who worked with their Sikhs every day in fields and kitchens. to earn an honest living was encouraged - this involves studying at school, college or university. another point is that by doing this, money can be earned to give to the more needy. maybe we can help those who are less fortunate than ourselves; which i personally think is a wonderful seva which we have the oppurtunity to do in this life.

what is Bhagti? why can't we do it every second of our lives, no matter where we are? is Maharaj not in every blade of grass, every person and every atom? by just looking at these things and remembering Maharaj, IMHO we are doing Bhagti. THIS is what makes Gursikhi different to other faiths. the Simran and Gurshabad will start to run continuously inside us, by appreciating Maharaj's Creation, appreciating the fact that every soul is a part of Maharaj and by understanding that He is with us all the time, whether we're locked in a cupboard, asleep in our beds or getting taught at college. even the things we get taught in places like college can help us love our King.

He's put us in this world for a reason. be like the lotus. help others, be kind to others, see Maharaj in everyone, live truthfully, and be happy! :D

as you can see, i have no idea what i'm talking about :D .

:s:

~l~

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

[Surajsingh]

Hindus had four types of lifestyles.

1. Brahmacharya

2. Grihastha

3. Vanaprastha

4. Sanyasa.

It was the lifestyle people followed although it has changed in Hinduism as well and very few follow all four stages now. They are mostly following the second and thats about it. Sikh Gurus adviced to live in number two stage and considered it the best of all four. You can follow other lifestyle and there is no rigid system to follow in Sikhism but preference is given to Grihastha AKA "House Holder" lifestyle. It is adviced that you follow second stage only if you are Sikh rest is your personal choice.

http://hinduism.iskcon.com/practice/702.htm

[Revolutionary]

Read Shabad Hazaare P:10

esp: REH MAN AISO KAR SANIAASA

You'll get your answers :D

[Sarbloh Warrior]

is their somethnig called doing too much bhagti?

alot of people i have spoken to belive that their is a certain amount of bhagti one should do a day , sum say doing nitnem is enuff, some say u should do sukhmani sahib and asa di vaar also, some say u shouldnt sleep etc...

[novtejsinghkhalsa]

same say:

naam japo

kirat karo

vand ke shako

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh