Anti - Hindu

[Raju]

our great ancestors were formely Hindus ....

Sikhs who converted from jat tribes like Cheema, Chatha and so on..who lived in peripheral regions weren't really hindu. Infact they followed no particular religion before converting into Sikhism, probably some were buddhists or animists.

And if you follow Sikh politics closely, it is these types who lived in and around Attock and present day North Western Pakistan who have the most trouble with the hindus and it is also them who display maximum contempt for them.

Infact if you look into history, you will find that the ancestors of the Jats & most of em Rajputs, the hephthalites or what is called in Sanskrit (himtaali) were always in the periphery of hinduism because they were bought into the fold of hinduism too late and even then they remained on the periphery of the religion because most of them were just given 'honorary kshatriya' status and were not treated equal to the brahmins . They were not allowed to take part in rituals and neither did they understand the meaning because the cunning brahmin kept it knowingly complex so as to maintain his hold over the hindu society. But still at this stage there was some movement between the castes and there were cases of brahmins intermarrying with other communities and their offspring considered of equal status.

But then when Islam arrived in the sub-continent, then the mass-murders and qatl-e-aams just made caste system more rigid because everybody got insecure and trusted only their own flock.

[Singh With Dunalli]

Its' because most North Indian Hindus deserve nothing but to be treated that way, no matter how much you try to patch things up, they always show their egotistical ways, saying that we are bahmans and no one is better than us. I used to have a bahman friend in highskewl he was kewl to a certain extent but always made fun of people that didn't meet his standards, and once he crossed the limits, and if you roll with me, there is one commandment you must follow:

"THALL SHALL NOT BE A BAHMAN.."

well he choose to follow that, ant bats were flying, and fists were connecting to skin. :e:

[Raju]

Why are you so pi$$ed-off with brahmins ?? It is not like they killed anyone or chopped off anyone's head !

At the maximum they have a superiority complex and are exclusive ... but that's about it. Unless they directly interfere in anyone's lives I don't understand why people need to have their knickers in a knot over them. Compare this to the Islamists whose only comeback is to chop off the head of anyone who disagrees with them.

I will take the hindus over the Islamists anyday, because with the latter I would have to turn myself into a butcher to get back at them.

[Prem]

Yes there is a lot of bigotry amongst some Sikhs and it is sad and even disgusting given that our religion is opposed to bigotry when Sikhs can openly express such generalised hatred of entire groups of people. It is especially sad and pathetic because Sikhs are the victims of much stereotyping and hatred and racism too and so to act in a similar manner is disgraceful. But the way things are now, I think Sikhs in Britain are amongst the most racist and bigoted people in the country.

Guru Fateh

[Guest waheguruji]

A Sultan arrived from Arabia in around 1000 AD after the rise of Islam at Mumbai India and entered the Somnath Mandir and smashed the Shiva idol in half and jewels and diamonds came out of it.

Then the Mughals ruled India some emperors were tolerant like Akbar who formed a new religion (which died out straight after) called Din Ilahi a mixture of Islam and Hinduism but the most fanatic one is Aurangzeb who even killed Sufi Shiah Muslims

But Islam in India is still greatly influenced by Hinduism in Saudia Arabia thers no Pirs or Babas and no Smadhs

Same for Sikhs because Punjab is 30% Hindu

Then came Guru Nanak a Guru for Hindus and Pir for Muslims who refused the Brahmin thread ceremony and spoke out against idol worship and against their racist caste system

Then the British arrived and even they had the common sense to say that what are these idols and started opening churches

[jai_ho]

Same for Sikhs because Punjab is 30% Hindu

..today about 45% :D

[Guest waheguruji]

Same for Sikhs because Punjab is 30% Hindu

..today about 45% :D

yeah and Muslims are now 18% shouldnt you lot be worried about that increase from 9%

and your idols will die out because people are getting educated in India

[jai_ho]

yeah and Muslims are now 18% shouldnt you lot be worried about that increase from 9%

...no

[Balait_da_Sher]

Guru Tegh Bahadur saved them only because they had converted to Sikhism and make a member of their family Sikh

where did you get this from?

[Guest waheguruji]

Guru Tegh Bahadur saved them only because they had converted to Sikhism and make a member of their family Sikh

where did you get this from?

common sense why else why would Guru Ji save these be sharam traitors who turned the mughal emperors against our Gurus

for example Chandu Shah Gangu Brahmin Sucha Nand