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dharam yudh Morcha 2004


should there be another dharam yudh morcha in 2004?  

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  1. 1. should there be another dharam yudh morcha in 2004?

    • yes, it is needed for an idependent khalistan.
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    • no, khalistan has already been declared
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    • no, we are not ready for another dharam yudh morcha
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    • i do not know what a dharam yudh morcha is?
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Dharam Yudh Morcha is about sikh rights, its a movement to make us equal citizens amongst all others. Initially it wasnt about khalistan or sikh raaj, but if one was to start again officially today then perhaps that would be one of its aims.

But singhs, in my view the morcha as started in the late 70's early 80's has never stopped. As sant jarnail singh ji used to say, that the morcha will only stop once all the requirements in the Anandpur resolution have been met. Since this isnt the case the morcha is still on, albeit quite at the moment it still exists.

And bhai sahib, doing simran is great but doing simran alone will not get you everything.

Im sure Guru Gobind Singh Ji could have just told the Singhs to sit and do simran and let the mughals and hill chiefs do as they please. But Guru Ji chose to fight and defend himself, Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji could have just done simran and an ardaas for the Hindu's, but he chose to get up and make a stand and gave his head.

We need to do our bhagti, but at the same time we need to be ready to do our physical bit for the panth and humanity too.

I believe Khalsa Raaj will occur once those that do simran decide to have raaj and get up and take it.

Its too easy to just say do simran, your a part of this world and this problem that were facing just like everyone else. We all need to take responsibility and do our bit.

On the other hand, we cant just march and shout and fight and die without reading our gurbani. we have to do both, lets not try and hide behind one or the other.

A new morcha isnt needed brothers, we still got the old one to complete, lets see what we needed then and what we still havent achiev

ed and then lets see what our new demands and needs are.

The morcha didnt end, just that we lost our himmat and let things slip away...

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oh yeah and ps,

From recent experience it is sometimes those of us that do(appear) to do the most simran that are most against unity and will not work beyond basic differences for the chardi kala of the panth. They are too 'spiritual' to work with moorakh's such as i myself.

Anyway its a long road to freedom, so make sure you got your walking boots!

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veeras...

i just had one question with the khalistan debate...

what's the are of khalistan? will it include parts of punjab on the pakistan side?...if not what will happen to all the ithasik gurudawaras outside the boundaries of khalistan???

like hazoor sahib, nankana sahib, bangla sahib, sis ganj sahib and more...???

this question just came to me while i was taking a shower..hehe.....

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

oh yeah and ps,

From recent experience it is sometimes those of us that do(appear) to do the most simran that are most against unity and will not work beyond basic differences for the chardi kala of the panth. They are too 'spiritual' to work with moorakh's such as i myself.

I know what you mean, but the thing is, us as sikhs,we're not just sant-sants and we're

not just saphai-sapahis, we're SANT-SAPHAIS

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