Pm Manmohan Singh Vs Maharaja Ranjit Singh

[MiriPiri]

No doubt the Mharaja will be more revered by the common (Sikh) man when history looks back at these two leaders of state.

But who should we as Sikhs admire more?

Manmohan Singh who soem say has "sided with the enemy of Khalistan" but others would say is a fundamentally a good Sikh?

Or Ranjit Singh who led and expanded a Kingdom based in the Punjab and could superfically be called a Khalsa nation, even though he had mostly non-Sikh advisors and administrators, and himself partook in very non-Sikh practices?

[Bundha]

How would you term a "fundamentally good Sikh"? are we not all fundamentally good Sikhs? Manmohan Singh strings are pulled by those who are "fundamentally" enemies of the sikhs.

It is easy for us to sit in our comfy chairs and talk about expansionist kingdoms, we have no idea of the challenges faced by the sikhs in the 18C. It was "fundamentally" a very hostile situation. It was a matter of conquer or be conqured. If MRS did not expand his terretories then the Afghans per poised to take it. He needed to consolidate the kingdom,whihc is the reason why is was so stable for so long, people flourished all lived in relative peace, not bad!

It was his forsightedness that brought the Sikh army from a purly faujdhar/cavalry troop to a properly drilled army with discipline. It needed to be to take on the British, is it a wonder that the British never attacked the Sikhs while MRS was alive? they knew where their strength lay.

So what if he did bring in no -sikh advisers, you think all of Manmohan singhs are Sikh? He used the best there was, modernised the army kept the british at bay, relative stability, not bad.

Guru Ji's bachan is that whoever makes a gurdwara at Hazur sahib will have his Kull destroyed, MRS said if Guru ji can vaar his sahibzaday for us, then this is a small price for making a fitting gurdwara for our Guru Sahib Ji, not bad eh?

[dalsingh101]

MS also has achieved. Apparently he is Oxford educated and responsible for the economic growth of India although Panjab doesn't seem to have benefited much. Personally I am glad as I would hate for Punjab to be the location of those call centres! His loyalty to a party with the history it has is strange but even in misl times at least one jathedar was loyal to the Afghans (Ala Singh I think), for a time at least.

One big difference was that RS created and modelled his own infrastructure in his kingdom (albeit based on other models such as Mughals Rajputs etc.), whereas MS has used an existing structure. Also RS TOOK power himself, whereas MS was given it by Sonia Gandhi.

[Shaheed_Fauja]

lol

kaha raja boj.. kaha gangu teli

[dalsingh101]

lol

kaha raja bot.. kaha gangu teli

Can you translate that Fauja?

[Shaheed_Fauja]

Basically theres no comparison

like sky v's earth

[S1ngh]

I don't think we can compare manmohan singh with Ranjit Singh.. big difference in everything..

[CaptainC]

ohh and i thought ide add

All of Manmohan Singhs kids are married to Hinduz

Manmohan singh himself cuts his beard and drinks alcohol

and Him being there aint much of a Benefit to Sikhs other than keeping our mouthes shut, ofcourse we'de want him over Gandhi though

The Kingdom RS ruled over as such a strong one where there was almost no such thing as inequality, RS kept his people happy, he actualy cared and didnt play dirty politics....no matter what Anti-Gurmat things he did, his every move in terms of Raajnithi was beneficial to the people of his kingdom!!