When We Die And Dharamraaj

[singh_comradz]

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kaparr roop suhaavanaa shhadd dhuneeaa a(n)dhar jaavanaa ||

Abandoning the world of beauty, and beautiful clothes, one must depart.

Guru Nanak Dev Ji

Raag Aasaa

470

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ਜਿਹ ਮਾਰਗ ਕੇ ਗਨੇ ਜਾਹਿ ਨ ਕੋਸਾ ॥

जिह मारग के गने जाहि न कोसा ॥

Jih mārag kė ganė jāhi na kosā.

On that path where the miles cannot be counted,

ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਊਹਾ ਸੰਗਿ ਤੋਸਾ ॥

हरि का नामु ऊहा संगि तोसा ॥

Har kā nām ūhā sang ṯosā.

there, the Name of the Lord shall be your sustenance.

ਜਿਹ ਪੈਡੈ ਮਹਾ ਅੰਧ ਗੁਬਾਰਾ ॥

जिह पैडै महा अंध गुबारा ॥

Jih paidai mahā anḏẖ gubārā.

On that journey of total, pitch-black darkness,

ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਸੰਗਿ ਉਜੀਆਰਾ ॥

हरि का नामु संगि उजीआरा ॥

Har kā nām sang ujī­ārā.

the Name of the Lord shall be the Light with you.

ਜਹਾ ਪੰਥਿ ਤੇਰਾ ਕੋ ਨ ਸਿਞਾਨੂ ॥

जहा पंथि तेरा को न सिञानू ॥

Jahā panth ṯėrā ko na siñānū.

On that journey where no one knows you,

ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਤਹ ਨਾਲਿ ਪਛਾਨੂ ॥

हरि का नामु तह नालि पछानू ॥

Har kā nām ṯah nāl pacẖẖānū.

with the Name of the Lord, you shall be recognized.

ਜਹ ਮਹਾ ਭਇਆਨ ਤਪਤਿ ਬਹੁ ਘਾਮ ॥

जह महा भइआन तपति बहु घाम ॥

Jah mahā bẖa­i­ān ṯapaṯ baho gẖām.

Where there is awesome and terrible heat and blazing sunshine,

ਤਹ ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਨਾਮ ਕੀ ਤੁਮ ਊਪਰਿ ਛਾਮ ॥

तह हरि के नाम की तुम ऊपरि छाम ॥

Ŧah har kė nām kī ṯum ūpar cẖẖām.

there, the Name of the Lord will give you shade.

ਜਹਾ ਤ੍ਰਿਖਾ ਮਨ ਤੁਝੁ ਆਕਰਖੈ ॥

जहा त्रिखा मन तुझु आकरखै ॥

Jahā ṯarikẖā man ṯujẖ ākrakẖai.

Where thirst, O my mind, torments you to cry out,

ਤਹ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਬਰਖੈ ॥੪॥

तह नानक हरि हरि अम्रितु बरखै ॥४॥

Ŧah Nānak har har amriṯ barkẖai. ||4||

there, O Nanak, the Ambrosial Name, Har, Har, shall rain down upon you. ||4||

ang 264

[The_Perfect_Student]

satnaam

dandauth to all gursangat charan

dharam raaj is the one who judges our actions. all the actions that are done under the darkness of our mind (panj chor, desires, ahankaar) are recorded by chitar gupt. if we dont get salvation (mukti) in this life, when we die we go to him and then he decides what punishment we get based on our actions in this life. he then sends our soul to a different body (animal, human again) it depends on your deeds in this life. Dharam Raj works for God. God has created this game, so if you want mukti you've to go beat dharam raj by realising God and becoming a brahm giani. Only a brahm giani, a puran khalsa is free of karmas, meaning he's not judged by dharam raj because GOD runs his body.

This is how we get mukti, liberated whilst alive. We've to become free of karmas, this will happen when GOD runs your body. Every person has their inner eternal Guru sitting in their heart, sometimes we are about to do something bad, and then we get a call from inside "DONT DO THAT", that is your eternal guru telling you not to be bad, but we still override him and do what our EGO tells us and then that action is recorded under chitar-gupt.

Our mission is to become 100% on the guru, our mission is to do what he tells us, not the panj chor, ahankaar and desires. Once you become 100% on your internal guru - satnaam, your dassam dawar is opened and you're connected to supreme energy - god himself. this is the meaning of GURMUKH, when you facing the guru inside you, not your own MIND (MANMUKH). You need a outer guru (a puran brahm giani, living satguru) to connect you with your internal guru. You've the car, you need the key, key is a puran brahm giani, and then you've to make the effort to drive that car to sach khand.

dust of your feet

may no one know my name

[singh_comradz]

satnaam

dandauth to all gursangat charan

dharam raaj is the one who judges our actions. all the actions that are done under the darkness of our mind (panj chor, desires, ahankaar) are recorded by chitar gupt. if we dont get salvation (mukti) in this life, when we die we go to him and then he decides what punishment we get based on our actions in this life. he then sends our soul to a different body (animal, human again) it depends on your deeds in this life. Dharam Raj works for God. God has created this game, so if you want mukti you've to go beat dharam raj by realising God and becoming a brahm giani. Only a brahm giani, a puran khalsa is free of karmas, meaning he's not judged by dharam raj because GOD runs his body.

This is how we get mukti, liberated whilst alive. We've to become free of karmas, this will happen when GOD runs your body. Every person has their inner eternal Guru sitting in their heart, sometimes we are about to do something bad, and then we get a call from inside "DONT DO THAT", that is your eternal guru telling you not to be bad, but we still override him and do what our EGO tells us and then that action is recorded under chitar-gupt.

Our mission is to become 100% on the guru, our mission is to do what he tells us, not the panj chor, ahankaar and desires. Once you become 100% on your internal guru - satnaam, your dassam dawar is opened and you're connected to supreme energy - god himself. this is the meaning of GURMUKH, when you facing the guru inside you, not your own MIND (MANMUKH). You need a outer guru (a puran brahm giani, living satguru) to connect you with your internal guru. You've the car, you need the key, key is a puran brahm giani, and then you've to make the effort to drive that car to sach khand.

dust of your feet

may no one know my name

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fatheh!

mr lakhan,

mostly true but one small point.

Would that 'living guru' happen to be narinder grewal?

There is only one Guru and that is Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Please don't ruin this thread with your cultist propaganda

p.s. abide by the rules

http://www.sikhsentinel.com/sikhsentinel03...s%20GuruDum.pdf

[xkaurx]

if dharamraj judges us then does that mean when we die we dont meet god?

[Mehtab Singh]

may no one know my name

What if I know it? :nihungsmile:

mr lakhan,

Not Mr Multani? :nihungsmile:

[The_Perfect_Student]

satnaam

by the way i am not lakhan

There is only one True Guru and that is GOD - TRUTH - SAT.

Guru Nanak Dev ji is SAT

Guru Gobind Singh ji is SAT

Jesus is SAT

Prophet is SAT

Ram/Krishna is SAT

Sri Guru Granth Sahib is SAT.

Sat has told us the importance of SAT-GURU. You read SGGS ji, you should know the importance of SAT-GURU in this path. Therefore you need a living satguru so that you can realise him too. A living satguru doesnt have a name, his name is SAT. He is GOD on earth. Simple. This may sound stupid but its the truth. Guru Nanak Dev ji was God on earth, Jesus was God on earth, all the other Gurus are God on earth. How many of us read sukhmani sahib? you must have come across "brahm giaani aap parmesar"? There you go, guru ji told us, brahm giani is himself the formless lord. Believe it or not, this is true, you need to stop living in the past and wake up. SGGS ji was written under the hukam of paar brahm parmesar to tell us the importance of a living sat-guru. It clearly tells us that without satguru there is no liberation, naam cannot be found etc.

Therefore we need gurprasad from living satguru so that we can realise him too. It tells us in gurbani that we should bow to the feet of a brahm giani, sant and it is a great act etc, but when we come across one we start to slander HAHA! do you know, you can never know who is what, did those muslims who wanted to kill, slander our gurus knew they were God on earth? They were living in the past and their EGO couldnt stand GOD (our gurus on earth) so they wanted to kill them. HAHA, thats how it is, EGO wants to be bigger then TRUTH - GOD. It is the same inside and outside. YOUR ego is the wall between you and God. It wants to dominate God. Its the same outside world. So how can we judge someone, we dont know who is who? so if we cant say anything good about someone, we better not say bad as well.

dust of your feet

[The_Perfect_Student]

oh by the way Kaur ji

We have to meet God before death. Read gurbani, it tells us it is before death not after.

The soul bride has to get married to his beloved husband Lord God before death.

Then you merge back to him permanently and become infinite part of him and that is when you're jivan mukt - liberated whilst alive - dead whilst alive (death of haumai - ego)

dust of your feet

[OhTwadi]

Why do you keep insisting on this "living" guru. my guru is timeless, my guru is neither alive nor dead.