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kbIr mwry bhuqu pukwirAw pIr pukwrY Aaur ]

kabeer maarae bahuth pukaariaa peer pukaarai aour ||

Kabeer, those who are beaten cry a lot; but the cries of the pain of separation are different.

lwgI cot mrMm kI rihE kbIrw Taur ]182]

laagee chott mara(n)m kee rehiou kabeeraa t(h)our ||182||

Struck by the Mystery of God, Kabeer remains silent. ||182||

vichaar folks?

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OOOH i think this shabad was sung today at harmandar sahib pray.gif

perhaps, this is sayin

that seperation from vaheguru is worse... than maya - beaten... ?

like... maya beats u? but being seperated from vahgeuru is THE WORST EVER cuz we have travelled through soo many incarnations.

lwgI cot mrMm kI rihE kbIrw Taur ]182]

laagee chott mara(n)m kee rehiou kabeeraa t(h)our ||182||

Struck by the Mystery of God, Kabeer remains silent. ||182||

so i guess we wont knw.... its all vahegurus khel..... ^^

orrrrrr:

could be that the ''beaten bit' refers to jamdoots?

hmm intresting, what do others have to say?

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kbIr mwry bhuqu pukwirAw pIr pukwrY Aaur ]

kabeer maarae bahuth pukaariaa peer pukaarai aour ||

Kabeer, those who are beaten cry a lot; but the cries of the pain of separation are different.

lwgI cot mrMm kI rihE kbIrw Taur ]182]

laagee chott mara(n)m kee rehiou kabeeraa t(h)our ||182||

Struck by the Mystery of God, Kabeer remains silent. ||182||

Kabeer jee's bani is such a mystery sometimes. When I first read the first tuk

( kabeer maarae bahuth pukaariaa peer pukaarai aour || ) I thought it meant physical pain but that's not even close to it. Lets break it down.

First of all, the second part of the english translation for the first tuk is incrorrect. The translation for the second tuk is also misleading, its understandable that they are describing gurbaaNee one or two lines, but you can't capture gurujee's message in a one or two line sentence, its like taking a photo of only part of a beautiful scenery you miss out on the big picture.

maarae (that person who gets beat down by maya), bhai sahib singh's teeka says 'daajhan sansa' I hope someone can clarify what that means') bahut pukaariaa (he is never satisfied and he crys and suffers the pain maya brings to him) peer pukaarae aur (as he suffers from his demands of maya, he continuously asks for more pain, i.e. maya and this hope in maya continues to bring him pain)

chott (sweet pain of gur shabad)

maram (that raptures/wins the heart)

laagee chott maram kee raheou kabeeraa thour ||182||

Kabeer has been hit with the sweet pain of the guru's shabad, which has won his heart, now he is content and has placed his mind in the feet of the vaheguru and now he will not falter.

The second part also relates to this, I'm sure english translation is not what it means so I'm taking it out I hope someone can share their input on it along with the first part, bhul chuk muaaf karnee.

kbIr cot suhylI syl kI lwgq lyie ausws ]

kabeer chott suhaelee sael kee laagath laee ousaas ||

cot shwrY sbd kI qwsu gurU mY dws ]183]

chott sehaarai sabadh kee thaas guroo mai dhaas ||183||

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