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[kh@ls@]

Ahh you <banned word filter activated> why did you open this thread?????

Just making the point that if we're told not to do something thats exactly what we do becoz we're moorakhs.(especially me)

In this same way we don't follow guru sahibs hukam, even though we know its in our best interest we just continue to be manmukhs.We know we're meant to wake up at amrit vela but do we? The list of things that Guru Sahib has told us that we don't pracitce is endless so i'm just gonna write, etc.

ਮਨਮੁਖੁ ਬਾਲਕੁ ਬਿਰਧਿ ਸਮਾਨਿ ਹੈ ਜਿਨ੍‍ਾ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਨਾਹੀ ॥

manamukh balak biradhh saman hai jinha anthar har surath nahee ||

The self-willed manmukhs are like stupid children; they do not keep the Lord in their thoughts.

ਵਿਚਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਕਰਮ ਕਮਾਵਦੇ ਸਭ ਧਰਮ ਰਾਇ ਕੈ ਜਾਂਹੀ ॥

vich houmai karam kamavadhae sabh dhharam rae kai janhee ||

They do all their deeds in egotism, and they must answer to the Righteous Judge of Dharma.

ਜਿਨਾ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨ ਸੇਵਿਓ ਸਬਦਿ ਨ ਕੀਤੋ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥

jina sathigur purakh n saeviou sabadh n keetho veechar ||

Those who do not serve the True Guru, the Primal Being, and do not reflect upon the Word of the Shabad

ਓਇ ਮਾਣਸ ਜੂਨਿ ਨ ਆਖੀਅਨਿ ਪਸੂ ਢੋਰ ਗਾਵਾਰ ॥

oue manas joon n akheean pasoo dtor gavar ||

- do not call them human beings; they are just animals and stupid beasts.

ਓਨਾ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਨ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਹੈ ਹਰਿ ਸਉ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਨ ਪਿਆਰੁ ॥

ouna anthar gian n dhhian hai har so preeth n piar ||

They have no spiritual wisdom or meditation within their beings; they are not in love with the Lord.

ਮਨਮੁਖ ਮੁਏ ਵਿਕਾਰ ਮਹਿ ਮਰਿ ਜੰਮਹਿ ਵਾਰੋ ਵਾਰ ॥

manamukh mueae vikar mehi mar janmehi varo // ||

The self-willed manmukhs die in evil and corruption; they die and are reborn, again and again.

Insipired by B4nd4's loser topic.

[Guest peacemaker]

I fail to see the point of this. I wish people would stop saying we don't follow guru sahib's hukam. How do you know everyone doesn't?????? Give people some credit!

[kh@ls@]

The topic said do not open. But you did open it !!! There is no set up, its human nature, the forbidden fruit scenario.

[Guest peacemaker]

So why did you write anything then? Leave it blank. You opened it too.

P.S. Don't ever call anyone a <banned word filter activated>. That's so uncool!

[Akaali]

I like this thread A really good way to make us understand bani.

Relax peacemaker, make peace with your mind like your name suggests :D

Its funny how we fail to see why this topic was posted instead of how it was posted, it was posted for us to understand the shabad he posted but its sad we fail to see that.

[Guest peacemaker]

One last thing and I'm just stating my opinion. I don't like the tactics of setting people up to fail. I have no problem with someone writing pages and pages of gurbani on this forum or anywhere else. Maybe I'm coming from left field here, but I honestly didn't like when you call someone an <banned word filter activated> and then ask people to read gurbani.

[wjkk wjkf]

LOL i cudda told u i was a manmukh WITHOUT opening the thread.

Nice one....

[۹βkaur۹β]

LOL

yh a gd topic, shows exactley what we do..... like... in life, we know there are things that we shudnt do.. but we sill do them anyway! like this topic... it clearly says by veerje dont read.. but look.. we all have.. same applies to us cuz, we are told by gurujee that we must jap naam, have amrit etc.... but do we?

thnx kh@ls@ veer :D

[Guest peacemaker]

we are told by gurujee that we must jap naam, have amrit etc.... but do we?

thnx kh@ls@ veer :D

Can I just ask a very serious question. Why are people always assuming in these preachings that people are not following guru jee? Isn't it better to assume people are following our beloved guru than not? Whatever happened to the benefit of the doubt? I've kind of learned that the people who keep saying they are murakhs, aren't really murakhs at all. It is kind of like an act of humbleness, which I do respect.

Murakhs don't talk like this. I think there is something very odd going with the way people act in sikhi. They say they are one thing to your face, but they know the truth inside. They just want to keep it gupt, which I also respect.

[lowest of the low singhni]

Peacemaker, the reason people like me use the word 'we' in these kinds of topics/situations is because if we say 'I don't follow Hukam, I should listen to this, I forget God' etc then there seem to be too many 'I's - the world doesn't revolve around us and many of our brothers and sisters are in the same boat, going through the same things we are. The way I see it, it's better to hold hands in order to help each other along.

I also understand your point, which you make over and over again in these types of topics : ) But I don't think it is the intention of the OP to say that nobody follows Hukam. Of course there are many gems who do.

If we used 'I', we'd be attacked for making it about us. If we use 'we', we're said to be generalised/judging people. If we use 'you', we're preaching to others but not following ourselves. So choose your pick people!

but I honestly didn't like when you call someone an <banned word filter activated> and then ask people to read gurbani.

You're right, perhaps we shouldn't say things like that to our brothers and sisters. But bear in mind everytime we read a tuk such as "har gun kaahi n gaavehee moorakh agiaanaa", Guru Saheb is saying that to us.