Having Kesh Ishnan At Amrtvela

[Guest peacemaker]

lol, peacemaker, its not a concept, if a sikh cannot even affirm that their guroo is here and alive with them, treating Guroo Sahib on the level of a book, then I dont know what to say.

But how do you know TheVampire feels that way? I said mistakes do happen. I'm not going to speak on his behalf anymore.

[TheVampire]

sorry to go off topic, but vampire, just wondering, why would you address a living person with "the" and how can someone alive be "a rehit maryada"?

Just think about it?

I try to live my life according to the teachings of The Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Nothing else matters to me.

But we are going off topic.

[Singhstah]

do you call Guroo Gobind Singh Ji "the" Guroo Gobind Singh Ji? why the "the" with Guroo Granth Sahib Ji, is Guroo Sahib an object?

sarbat da bhalla

ps. to the topic starter, sorry for going off topic.

[Guest peacemaker]

do you call Guroo Gobind Singh Ji "the" Guroo Gobind Singh Ji? why the "the" with Guroo Granth Sahib Ji, is Guroo Sahib an object?

Start a new thread. No more on this here, please.

[TheVampire]

do you call Guroo Gobind Singh Ji "the" Guroo Gobind Singh Ji? why the "the" with Guroo Granth Sahib Ji, is Guroo Sahib an object?

sarbat da bhalla

What's important whether you use words like it or the or whether you follow the teachings of THE Guru's.?

If Guru Nanak, for example, was not blessed with his teachings. He would have been an ordinary human being. It was his teachings that made him a Guru - not his outwardly form.

Same as the Guru Granth Sahib Ji - it is not the outwardly appearnace that i am bothered with - but the teachings of the Guru Granth.

One may consider it a book, a human, a living book or a living human or whatever.

It is the shabads that make the Granth Sahib Ji special - just like it was the shabads that made Guru Nanak special.

I won't be wasting my time commenting on this further as we have gone off topic.

[akal sahai]

fateh sangat ji, is having a keshi ishnan at amritvela a rehit or are their any hukhamnameh for having one, Iv looked at damdami taksal rehit online and there is no mention, can anyone do some seva and shed some light??

also is their a specific time for ishnaan like before nitnem or after any one kind enough to giv daas some gian??

Its like sayin is there a rehitnama for sayin you must wash both arms for ur ishnaan, or can u just wash one :6

Hair is part of u, just like u wash the hair on ur legs and arms, u wash the hair on your head. Just because its longer, it dont matta. Full ishnaan including washing of the kesh should be done everyday.

Ishnaan should take place as soon as one wakes up, then seated naam simran and nitnem should be done.

Gurfateh jee

gurfateh

yes hair is part of you but its called kesh and hair on your legs and arms is called rom.

rom rom mih bsih murwir ]

rom rom mehi basehi muraar ||

and on each and every hair, the Lord abides

gur ky crn kys sMig Jwry ]1]

gur kae charan kaes sa(n)g jhaarae ||1||

with my hair, I dust the feet of the Guru. ||1||

so lol there is a difference there, that's why bani gives them different names.

but having ishnaan everyday is bad for kesh. are't we supposed to look after our kesh hence why guru ji has given us a dastar. another thing is, i know of some people who have a keshi ishnaan everyday but i cant really say that their hair is healthy, cus for some of them their hair has gone thinner. also because the dont allow their hair to dry properly they scalp is in a bad condition. we could argue if we let our hair properly dry then their would be a problem. But what about the hair getting thinner and loosing hair. Just one of the problems from washing ur hair everyday.

cMdnu moil AxwieAw kuMgU mWg sMDUru ]

cha(n)dhan mol anaaeiaa ku(n)goo maa(n)g sa(n)dhhoor ||

The bride may buy sandalwood oil and perfumes, and apply them in great quantities to her hair;

coAw cMdnu bhu Gxw pwnw nwil kpUru ]

choaa cha(n)dhan bahu ghanaa paanaa naal kapoor ||

she may sweeten her breath with betel leaf and camphor,

jy Dn kMiq n BwveI q siB AfMbr kUVu ]4]

jae dhhan ka(n)th n bhaavee th sabh adda(n)bar koorr ||4||

but if this bride is not pleasing to her Husband Lord, then all these trappings are false.

[Aparadhee]

hair should only get unhealthy if you use shampoo too much, if you use shampoo once a week and just use water for the other days your hair will be fine. importnt to use good quality oil aswell.

i dont think rom only refers to body hair and not hair on head. cutting the hair on your head and on your body is an equal bujjer kurehit. kesh=rom

all people i have done sangat with do keshi ishnaan at a.vela and they come from many jathas, so i think its generally an accepted rehit given at most amrit sanchars.