Did Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji And Bhagat Kabir Ji Ever Meet?

[charpree]

Bhagat Kabeer Ji met Guru Nanak Dev Ji as soon as he became Brahmgyaan.

And this is based on what?

(I thought God was the only Brahmgyaani? :gg: )

This path of truth relies on more than maths.

The path of truth does not rely on blind faith.

Satguru Nanak Pargatia mitti dhund Jag Chanan Hoa.

Bhagat Kabir ji never met Guru Nanak Dev ji

How did guru ji get the bani of Bhagat ji

Regarding this learn what Kabirpanthis tell about date of birth of Kabir ji.

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[khalistan_zindabaad]

lol

Brilliant.

We believe in brahm gyaanta not scholars gyaanta.

Sant Sundar Singh Jee Bhindranvale and the Pandit at Damdama Sahib

Once a Pandit came to Takht Sri Damdama Sahib to study from Sri Maan Sant Giani Sundar Singh Jee Khalsa Bhindranvale, when he came and started to study, Sant Jee was doing arth of ‘oankaar’, the pandit listening to these arth was amazed and said where do these arth come from?. A gursikh at the time replied ‘they come from above’ the pandit said ‘where from above’ he was amazed at the beautiful arth that he had never heard. The pandit then stated that in the past I have won 500 gatherings of scholars at 500 rupees each and said ‘I have never heard such deep arth of gurbani, I cannot study from you and walked away’.

Sant Gurbachan Singh Jee whilst narrating the sakhi states that these are false people and there veechar are also false, they do not follow what they preach and are just engrossed in maya.

pMifq vwcih poQIAw nw bUJih vIcwru ]

pa(n)ddith vaachehi pothheeaa naa boojhehi veechaar ||

The Pandits, the religious scholars, read their books, but they do not understand the real meaning.

An kau mqI dy clih mwieAw kw vwpwru ]

an ko mathee dhae chalehi maaeiaa kaa vaapaar ||

They give instructions to others, and then walk away, but they deal in Maya themselves.

kQnI JUTI jgu BvY rhxI sbdu su swru ]6]

kathhanee jhoot(h)ee jag bhavai rehanee sabadh s saar ||6||

Speaking falsehood, they wander around the world, while those who remain true to the Shabad are excellent and exalted. ||6||

Source: Sant Gurbachan Singh Jees Katha

[Khaalis]

The highest authority on this matter is the original Sikh Brahmgyani, Theologian and Historian Bhai Gurdas Ji.

His vaar on Bhagat Kabir Ji's Guru negates everything else, and thus fits perfectly with Kabir-Panthi records, the other strong source:

Vaar 10 Pauri 15 Kabir and Ramanand

ਹੋਇ ਬਿਰਕਤੁ ਬਨਾਰਸੀ ਰਹਿੰਦਾ ਰਾਮਾਨਦੁ ਗੁਸਾਈਂ ।

hoi birakatu banaarasee rahindaa raamaanadu gusaaeen|

Being detached from the world, Brahmin Ramanand lived in Varanasi (Kasi).

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ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਵੇਲੇ ਉਠਿ ਕੈ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਗੰਗਾ ਨ੍ਹਾਵਣ ਤਾਈਂ ।

anmritu vaylay utdi kai jaandaa gangaa nhaavan taaeen|

He would rise early in the morning and go to the Ganges to bathe.

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ਅਗੋ ਹੀ ਦੇ ਜਾਇ ਕੈ ਲਮਾ ਪਿਆ ਕਬੀਰ ਤਿਥਾਈਂ ।

ago hee day jaai kai|amaa piaa kabeer tidaaeen|

Once even before Ramanand, Kabir went there and lay in the way.

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ਪੈਰੀ ਟੁੰਬਿ ਉਠਾਲਿਆ ਬੋਲਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਸਿਖ ਸਮਝਾਈ ।

pairee tunbi utdaaliaa bolahu raam sikh samajhaaee|

Touching with his feet Ramanand awakened Kabir and told him to speak ‘Ram’, the true spiritual teaching.

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ਜਿਉ ਲੋਹਾ ਪਾਰਸੁ ਛੁਹੇ ਚੰਦਨ ਵਾਸੁ ਨਿਮੁ ਮਹਕਾਈ ।

jiu|ohaa paarasu chhuhay chandan vaasu nimu mahakaaee|

As the iron touched by philosopher’s stone becomes gold and the margosa tree (Azadirachta indica) is made fragrant by sandal.

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ਪਸੂ ਪਰੇਤਹੁ ਦੇਵ ਕਰਿ ਪੂਰੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਦੀ ਵਡਿਆਈ ।

pasoo paraytahu dayv kari pooray satigur dee vadiaaee|

The wondrous Guru turns even animals and ghosts into angels.

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ਅਚਰਜ ਨੋ ਅਚਰਜੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਵਿਸਮਾਦੈ ਵਿਸਮਾਦੁ ਮਿਲਾਈ ।

acharaj no acharaju milai visamaadai visamaadu milaaee|

Meeting the wonderous Guru the disciple wonderfully merges into the great wonderous Lord.

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ਝਰਣਾ ਝਰਦਾ ਨਿਝਰਹੁ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਬਾਣੀ ਅਘੜ ਘੜਾਈ ।

jharanaa jharadaa nijharahu guramukhi baanee agharh gharhaaee|

Then from the Self springs a fountain and the words of the gurmukhs shape a beautiful form

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ਰਾਮ ਕਬੀਰੈ ਭੇਦੁ ਨ ਭਾਈ ॥੧੫॥

raam kabeerai bhaydu n bhaaee ॥15॥

Now Ram and Kabir became identical.

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[khalsa_1993]

i heard that bhagat kabir ji lived upto 120. is it true? :nishaan_sahib_right: :2singh2:

[taksaalisingh]

Bhagat Kabir Ji wrote the Bavan Akhri after meeting Guru Sahib.

It is said that Bhagat Kabir Ji called Guru Sahib a 'Khalsa'. Bhagat Ji then composed the following Shabad:

kaho kabeer jan bha-ay khaalsay paraym bhagat jih jaanee. ||4||3||

Says Kabeer, those humble people become pure - they become Khalsa - who know the Lord's loving devotional worship. ||4||3||

Bhul Chuk Maaf,

WJKK WJKF

are you sure !!! i heard that bhagat kabir ji wrote the original tukk as

" kaho kabeer jan bhaye khalaasey"

and guru gobind singh ji changed it to

"kaho kabeer jan bhaye khaalsey "

[guptveer1469]

Guru Gobind Singh Ji didn't change any Bani. If any changements were made, it was by Guru Arjan Dev Ji. As Guru Gobind Singh Ji just took the Adi Grant and put Guru Tegh Bahadurs Bani in it, and made it into the present-day SGGS.

But I'm not 100% sure veerji. Thats what I have heard atleast.

Bhul Chuk Maaf,

WJKK WJKF

[Shubham]

On 2/28/2009 at 7:44 PM, guptveer1469 said:

True !

Bhul Chuk Maaf,

WJKK WJKf

Guru guru hotaaa hai nanak sahab ji ho ravidas maharaj ji ho kabir sahab jii ho baba farid ji ho gorakhnath ji sare maharaaaj hai sb mein wo ek hii haii sb ek hii hai guru guru hi hai wo parbhram ko paa chuke hai wo alag nii hai kya fadak padta hai pahle kon aaaya kon nii kon kiska guru haii mjhe ye pta hai sb mein wo he haii alag nii haii

[MokhamSingh]