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    Harnam Singh Dhuma? Sant?

    Ok well you're accusing Baba Thakur Singh of lying then. Great. if you have the heart watch this video: and this: and this where Ram Singh is grovelling for claiming to be the next mukhi: Are you really a nihang? Nihangs don't spread false rumours, tell lies, or destroy other people's livelihoods as far as I know. Or have I been given wrong info about what Nihangs are really like? If Nihangs are brothers of the Taksal why are one set of brothers causing deliberate damage to the other set of brothers repeatedly? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't.
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    Dasam Granth

    http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/17474-sri-charitropakhyan-sahib-jee-series-charitar-3/?page=4 Read a more accurate translation in the link above. About halfway down page. I had already posted this link for your learning.
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    Dasam Granth

    Sure. If you agree to the same. Well lets come to something more simple like the "Singh" in your name, Gavin Singh. Why didn't Guru Sahib write a clear rahit about this? Or is it written in SGGS to keep "Singh" in your name Gavin Singh? Kaam for your info, is the most powerful of the 5 chors and has brought mighty men to their knees. In Kalyug, kaam is the most powerful obstacle in the path of humans. If Guru Sahib wrote about it in a volume that reflected it's seriousness, why is that wrong? Ok, but what about the lines in SGGS that contain the words "<banned word filter activated>/semen/breasts..." Would you be able to talk about these to your parents/siblings/children? If not, why not? Or should we think that Guru Sahib has made a mistake and we must correct those mistakes? Well statistically all the Gurus, Bhagats and authors of SGGS were men. Does that mean that Guru Arjan Sahib didn't trust women were worthy enough to make any contribution to SGGS? Statistically men are more likely to die in wars, in workplace accidents, in road accidents etc. What does it mean?.
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    Dasam Granth

    Well there is only one way forward from this misunderstanding. What are the issues according to your own understanding? "all but by bit"? I have been studying the charitars in detail for about 2 years and have still only got to around 100. Now if the 80% is one side, there is still 20% on the other side isn't there? And if Guru Sahib (re)wrote even ONE charitar about the bravery/intelligence of women, then even that would be enough for a Sikh. Like in Guru Granth Sahib there is only ONE shabad "so kiou manda akhiye ...." Isn't that ONE occurence enough for a Sikh? Thats no way near the truth. There are several reasons for the charitars. No of them involve castigating eternally a gender. Guru Sahib performed his duty as ordered by Akal Purkh. But Guru Sahib is not responsible for your or my learning and perception. That is up to you and I. If you say that "women are percieved as tricksters" it is because YOU percieve them as tricksters. I haven't percieved "women as tricksters" after reading Sri CharitroPakhyan Granth because I don't perceive them as such. Well to be fair, everything in learning is miniscule in comparison to SGGS. I mean you went to school, learnt english and maths and science yes? But these subjects are miniscule in comparison to SGGS aren't they? So does that mean you will start a thread on how we should abandon Maths, english and science as the learning is miniscule compared to SGGS and we should concentrate on SGGS study only?
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    Harnam Singh Dhuma? Sant?

    Good to see you haven't run away for another two years. Who was harnam Singh to give anyone a siropao in 1992. That was the duty only of Baba Thakur Singh. When Gill went to Mehta did he ask to see Harnam Singh or Baba Thakur Singh? What is ethical about lying and calling yourself "akalifauj" ? The Taksal had already split over the jathedari. How did badal cause any further divisions with his siropao to Ram Singh?
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    Dasam Granth

    There is your first mistake. You have read the translation and RELIED on them to be 100% accurate. Because of your wholesale reliance on somebody else's opinion you are now doubting a scripture of great standing in the Sikh Panth. What do you think is the way to correct this? Pritpal SIngh Bindra has done these translations but they are at times wildly inaccurate. I have read these and was confused by it as well. I thought I should actually do my own research into the charitars. I soon realised that Bindra, as a known opponent of Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth would have an axe to grind. I feel sorry for anyone who has read bindras book book. It is nothing but misinformation. Anyone who understands the missionaries can understand why they clutch to it. "Everyone" ? When did you take this survey and question all ALL the members of the Sikh Panth? Global sikh studies is a missonary outfit and they have been giving out misinformation on Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth for some years now. They do not understand the granth I believe. Here I disagree with you. It's not pornographic. Pornography is intended to sexually stimulate the mind and body. Sri CharitroPakhyan granth absolutely does nothing of the kind. (2nd bolded) - I beleive that you have not read all the charitars in detail if you claim this. Who says they are? Sri CharitroPakhyan Granth certainly doesn't make any such claims. @GavinSingh here are two links which you should read for your further understanding: http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/17474-sri-charitropakhyan-sahib-jee-series-charitar-3/ this above link will make the charitar more clear. bindra has only given a weak translation of it. He has not analysed any charitar. This is what the above link attempts to do. You are welcome to give your opinions there. http://www.sikhawareness.com/forum/48-sri-dasam-granth-sahib/ In this above link, we have been looking at Sri CharitroPakhyan Granth in greater detail. Try reading some of the topic in the above link and see if you can discard the english translations, like others participants and myself did some years ago.
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    Harnam Singh Dhuma? Sant?

    I'm sure you will remember the question I asked you when you claimed this some years ago. The question that you still have not been able to answer. But for the information of the original poster I will ask it again so the OP doesn't get caught up in your lies : "Why did badal give siropao to Bhai Ram Singh as head of the Taksal rather than Harnam Singh?"
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    Kashmir - who does it belong to?

    India has never gotten over its humiliationg military defeat at the hands of china. Many other nations have gone through the same. Yes they have. But what is so bravehearted about killing people in false encounters in Panjab, Kashmir, Bodo land, Naga Land etc? What is so bravehearted about about raping women?
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    Cows in the Taksaal Fields

    Don't "bro" me. I am no bro to liars or missionary supporters. So you wouldn't have done anything different to the Taksalis then. Big surprise. Remember what I said about engaging your brain before opening your mouth? If you had bothered to do any background checks into this you would know that this happened last year where the cow-owners were given a last warning after it had happened before. But why would you, someone obviously with prejudices bother to do some research? look at these photos.
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    Kashmir - who does it belong to?

    Ladakh was taken in 1834 when Maharaja Ranjit Singh was still alive. And that's not even important here. The army that took Ladakh was Dogra led by a Hindu.
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    Cows in the Taksaal Fields

    It is the first video in my post. What sabar is there when a person would be walking into your house into your kitchen and throwing all the things out of your cupboards and fridge onto the floor? You tell me.
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    Harnam Singh Dhuma? Sant?

    If you think that anyone who says that Guru Nanak Dev Ji ate halal meat in Mecca is a sikh then I don't even accept you as a sikh. Why are you siding with such people? Next you will be saying that Sant Jarnail Singh should have been jailed for killing of lala jagat Narain. It was his nephew after all and a taksal student to carried out the act. Does the Guru advise YOU to speak on matters of which you have no or little knowledge?
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    Kashmir - who does it belong to?

    AGAIN! Again you show your ignorance! It's like you do no reading, no research but have to have an opinion on everything. General Zorawar Singh who captured Ladakh for the Sikh kingdom was a hindu. The force that captured it was Dogra. It was even rumoured that the Sikh governor of Kashmir unhappy at Zorawars conquests tried to set him up in a trap in Ladakh hut Zorawar was too astute. Can you please stop just adding false information on this board? I hope you are not like this with your family.
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    Cows in the Taksaal Fields

    Don't drag Guru Nanak Dev Ji into your stupidity. The nihangs did the same thing last year but they were warned about doing it again. They pushed their luck and this time the outcome was not the same. You rely on "hindustan news for your funny? No wonder you make an imbecile of yourself here time and time again.
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