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  1. Thats not proof though is it?
  2. Don't let them get away with it.
  3. What proof do you have of this?
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    Guru Arjan Dev ji di shaheedi - true culprits

    In katha of this episode, after the shaheedi of Guru Arjan Dev Ji, Guru Sahib said that "ਚੰਦੂ ਦੇ ਨੱਕ ਵਿਚ ਨਕੇਲ ਪਾਉਣਾ " and this frightened the Sikhs who complained to Mata Ganga about Guru Sahibs words. Chandu was given as a prisoner to the Sikhs after some time and then killed in Lahore. Have a read of this: http://punjabipedia.org/topic.aspx?txt=ਚੰਦੂ ਸ਼ਾਹ
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    Guru Arjan Dev ji di shaheedi - true culprits

    It's just a rehash of already known sources. I'm always wary of videos like this which start with "the sangat have been fed lies upto now and I am here to tell the truth..." This video is just this Singh's own opinion based on some textuao evidence. There are one or two things in the video which need looking at, the first of which the Singh refers to Guru Sahib's shaheedi as being at the Beas River, when it was at the Ravi river. The other thing that the Singh says is that Guru Arjan Dev Ji lfet his body at the bank of the river. But if this was true there would have been a chikka where Guru Sahin was cremated. Guru Sahib's body has no such place. Gurdwara Dehra Sahib is where Guru Sahib was tortured. But not the place of jyoti jyoy. As my vidia Guru Told me Guru Sahib requested for ishnaan in the river but was washed away in the river, having undergone days of extreme torture. In 2005 I was in Panjab and passing through Sirhind passed across mujadidi's mausoleum. I asked the caretaker there whether he knew about mujadidi's role in the shaheedi of Guru Arjan Dev Ji. he totally denied it. Anyway the mausoleum is still there. There were Sikhs there when I went in as well.
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    Definition Of The Word "babbar"

    Saardul I don't know the origins of but the others above are Hindi/Sanskrit/Braj words. It would be interesting to know more about Sardool.
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    Definition Of The Word "babbar"

    Both "sher" and "babbar" are persian words. IN persian "Sher" is a lion. "Babbar" is a tiger.
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    Dasam Granth in Eng/Punjabi

    Its not a mandate from Guru Sahib. Kirtanis do it on their own personal thinking. I think that as kirtan is more established in Gurdwaras than recital of chhands, some kirtanis are using it in the form of kirtan to deliver its knowledge to sangat.
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    Dasam Granth in Eng/Punjabi

    Yes he admits that he is unsure that Guru Sahib could use certain words in CharitroPakhyan. The audio is ok. The interference is from the pakha which is annoying. But do you see the difference in writing in Raag and Chhand? That was my point.
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    Dasam Granth in Eng/Punjabi

    The style of writing of Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib is very different from Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Sri Guru Granth Sahib is written in Raag, which are to be used in Kirtan, whereas Dasam Bani is all written in Chhands, apart from a very very small part in raags. Chhands are poetic ways of recital along a drumming rhythm. Writings in Chhands are to be recited, not sung. This is imho, one of the main reasons why Guru Sahib didn't add it. Also importantly the themes of both Granths are quite different. SS Kapoor in his book about Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib has detailed the different styles of chhands. This is a video about Chhands if anyoen is interested: or look at page 21 in the book (pg 25 of the pdf) for more info: http://sikhbookclub.com/Book/Dasam-Granth
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    Dasam Granth in Eng/Punjabi

    Guru Arjan Dev ji accepted the oppressors deeds without resorting to the sword, but Guru HarGobind Sahib resorted to the sword to fight oppressors. The Jyot was one but the actions weren't. The answer has nothing to do with humility. Baba Deep Singh compiled one of his own as well. Banswalinama by Kesar Singh Chibber.
  12. What is your honest answer to the above claims? What is a pseudo mahapurkh? And do you have anyone who fits your definition of it?
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    Back to Nanakshahi calendar?

    I will try and find the article which tells of which year purewal used. I was sure it was the tricentary of something.
  14. chatanga1

    Back to Nanakshahi calendar?

    Purewal based his new dates on one calendar. I thought it was on Khalsa tricentary but if not, then SGGS tricentary on 2008. It was on one of these occasions that he based it on.
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    Back to Nanakshahi calendar?

    Both Guru Sahib and Purewal cannot be right.
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