Ragi Darshan Singh's Lies Exposed By Jus Punjabi Tv

[BhForce]

Inder Singh, the ego for these people get in the way. First they were anti-Dasam Granth and slandering Bani of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji, but when they find out they have been tricked they won't go back on their first words. Only the humble and wise realize what mistakes they have made and ask for forgiveness.

So instead of completely banning the humble ones, they should be given a pass. After all they did realize their mistake. And if they openly or any other way slander Dasam Granth, then they should be summon to the Punj Pyare for a punishment.

Forgive and the unity of the Panth is very important now.

Every movement is composed of a small minority that composes policy, and then the mass of supporters.

While the ringleaders (and those cynical communists who have only recently kept their kes as a ploy) are a separate matter, the fact is, most of the ordinary members of these organizations are just average Sikhs who don't have the benefit of santhia, training, or even of having read Gurbani. As such, they are easily mislead.

Even those mislead Sikhs who were hard-core Spokesmen supporters, having given financial support to Spokesman and having participated in his "Ekas ke Barak" organisation's Ponzi scheme ("double your money in two years") are disillusioned with him after he has failed to give any clarification at all regarding disavowing the 9 Gurus after Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Rather, he said of his critics (recent supporters), they are crows and birds, and I don't have to answer them. There are three articles regarding this issue by a former Spokesman reporter and financial supporter from Bathinda in the October India Awareness.

When a pro-Afghana magazine is publishing anti-Spokesman articles, we just have to contact mislead Sikhs whom you might happen to know personally, and speak to them on a friendly basis about the current realities in order to get them back.

Taking a harsh tone with them will only alienate them. Using a composed tone will bring them back to the highway (gaadi rah) of Sikhism. Bhai Gurdas Ji says in his kabbits that impossible tasks can be accomplished by sweetness of words. (Again this applies to ordinary members, not the ringleaders.)

[Inder Singh]

Inder Singh, the ego for these people get in the way. First they were anti-Dasam Granth and slandering Bani of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji, but when they find out they have been tricked they won't go back on their first words. Only the humble and wise realize what mistakes they have made and ask for forgiveness.

So instead of completely banning the humble ones, they should be given a pass. After all they did realize their mistake. And if they openly or any other way slander Dasam Granth, then they should be summon to the Punj Pyare for a punishment.

Forgive and the unity of the Panth is very important now.

Every movement is composed of a small minority that composes policy, and then the mass of supporters.

While the ringleaders (and those cynical communists who have only recently kept their kes as a ploy) are a separate matter, the fact is, most of the ordinary members of these organizations are just average Sikhs who don't have the benefit of santhia, training, or even of having read Gurbani. As such, they are easily mislead.

Even those mislead Sikhs who were hard-core Spokesmen supporters, having given financial support to Spokesman and having participated in his "Ekas ke Barak" organisation's Ponzi scheme ("double your money in two years") are disillusioned with him after he has failed to give any clarification at all regarding disavowing the 9 Gurus after Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Rather, he said of his critics (recent supporters), they are crows and birds, and I don't have to answer them. There are three articles regarding this issue by a former Spokesman reporter and financial supporter from Bathinda in the October India Awareness.

When a pro-Afghana magazine is publishing anti-Spokesman articles, we just have to contact mislead Sikhs whom you might happen to know personally, and speak to them on a friendly basis about the current realities in order to get them back.

Taking a harsh tone with them will only alienate them. Using a composed tone will bring them back to the highway (gaadi rah) of Sikhism. Bhai Gurdas Ji says in his kabbits that impossible tasks can be accomplished by sweetness of words. (Again this applies to ordinary members, not the ringleaders.)

Bhai sahib

I had telephoned these estranged members of spokesman club who are writing in some newspapers against him these days. One of them is Kirpal singh Bhatinda.I told them that they were misled by spokesman on Dasam granth. Their reply was no . They had a profound hate towards Dasam granth sahib. There was no change in their attitude on that.

It is not only Spokesman who is anti dasam granth. Missionaries are the one who started this and they are still the ones who mislead sangat on Dasam granth.

Given below is video clip of Ragi darshan singh slandering Guru Gobind singh ji.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUsHAQSF57c

[Inder Singh]

Given below is video clip of Ragi darshan singh slandering Guru Gobind singh ji.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=vUsHAQSF57c

[Guest shastr]

that picture posted by k_z bhaji, in post number 7, what are those people about??

[Guest Bloom]

In My Opinion,

Darshan Ragi has been a Congress Agent for a Very Long Time. During 1984, it is also said that he was a Congress Agent, and would Deliberately Sing Those Shabads, and Say Those Words that would Rile up the Youth, and Khalistan Sympathizers, in order to pin-point them bring them out - out for Congress to Attack; most often Eliminating Them.

Many people say "Darshan Ragi, was fighting for Panth, and He was Jailed". To understand this, you have to understand corrupt politics. During times of turmoil, the safest place to keep an agent(s) is in jail. Do not be fooled. This was a 'Safe Haven' for an Agent(s), to 1) Pretend to Show he is fighting for 'Your Cause' which in actuality is the opposite; he was used as a mole to inspire Khalistan Fighters, so they could be pointed out and eliminated 2) Keep him safe for future 'missions'.

Agents of this Nature are For Life. If they do anything against 'their bosses', they, along with their families get eliminated etc.. Guess who will be blamed? You guessed it; Khalsa.

Know that in recent times, all Jathedars of Akal Takhat, are put there by Powerful Political Parties. Darshan Ragi is no different.

He is a Bollywood Actor, a Damn Good One.

DSGMC is Congress Supported. Sarna and Congress are Hand in Glove. Darshan Ragi and Congress are Hand In Glove. Sarna and Darshan Ragi are Hand in Glove Bum Chums. Darshan Ragi has unlimited funds and protection by DSGMC and Congress.

There are many ways to cause strifes in a community violence is only one and most often, not the longest lasting. More effective ways are to Attack the Minds of the Enemy - Create Doubts - Create Conflicts Within a Community or Panth. This is why Dasam Patshah Bani is being attacked 'First!'. Then their other 'pieces of their game like chess' and corrupt tactics will slowly show as well. Their Plans are to Attack All Khalsa Principles, Baptisms, Kakaars, Ways, Literature and Granths, including Sri GuruGranth Sahib Jee! They are attacking Khalsa, from the Inside, like a Cancer. It includes a Big Web, including Agents (who are very persuasive in Spewing Falsehoods Katha Vatchiks etc.), Media Including Magazines, Internet, Blogs, TV, etc., Charitable Organizations (Win confidence of masses), Gurdwaras (They Basically Own DSGMC), Schools, What is written in History Text Books that are taught in Schools etc.. etc..Be Extremely Cautious, Because They Easily Win the Minds of the Ignorant of Those who Lack Gurmat Knowledge and Understandings of Dasam Patshah Bani. And unfortunately, More than Most Gurdwara Committees, Media run by 'punjabees' etc.. are run by people who have No Jeevan, or Love or Knowledge of Dasam Patshah Bani. So these ignorant ones get convinced by such personalities with secret motives, and become part of their support, and Give them 'Stage' at Gurdwaras etc.. Most Media and Most Gurdwaras are Run by 'Patit', so, well, Patits Love Patits. This is an International Attempt.

Even the British Attacked the Bani of Dasam Patshah; for They Knew that This is Where the Khalsa get Their Bir Ras. That is why They Removed the Next Stanza in Chaopai Sahib which Talks of The Granth of Dasam Patshah. And this is why They Removed Chopai Sahib from the Nitnem, to make it Only Jap, Jaap, and Swayeh. Because The Full Chopai Talks of 'Granth', and this is Bir Ras Source of Khalsa. So They Removed it From Nitnem which Sikhs Admire Everyday, and to be Safe, They Removed the Stanza that Talks of Granth of Dasam Patshah. The British Knew how to Attack the Minds of Sikhs Because if Sikhs Read/Heard Everyday of 'Granth' from Chopai Sahib, they would Automatically Join with Dasam Patshah Bani and That is Bir Ras Which British Considered a Threat.

But Many Love Khalsa and Dasam Patshah Bani as Well! And The Truth is Always Stronger. And We Got Truth on Our Side! These Fools Actually Think They can Win Over Khalsa?!?

So, Will they Succeed? Lol,

Hell No! They Will Not Succeed Even if They had 125,000 such Corrupt Tactics in attempting to Fool even 1 Khalsa!

But, Be Aware! And Educate the Masses of the Greatness of Khande-Pahul and Dasam Patshah Bani. Introduce the World to Jaap Sahib. Everyone Will Be Hooked; and All Will Fall in Love with Pita Guru Gobind Singh Jee!

Chardi Kala!

[Inder Singh]

I agree.He was always a Govt agent planted among sikhs. Above is his photo with acharaya shushil muni

having backdoor consultations during militancy days in Punjab. he was jathedar of akal takhat and shyushil mUni

was an agent of rajiv Gandhi.

[Inder Singh]

Latest on ragi's balsphemy against personality of Guru sahib. There is janta di awaaz programme aired by JUS punjabi every Tuesday. Host revealed today that President of JUS punjabi sent a personal invitation to ragi darshan singh to appear on TV and present his views on the charge against him. Darshan singh says that he will think about it in March 2010. What does it mean? It means that he will not contest the charge as it is 100 percent true. THis is called evasive stand.

[BhForce]

I had telephoned these estranged members of spokesman club who are writing in some newspapers against him these days. One of them is Kirpal singh Bhatinda.I told them that they were misled by spokesman on Dasam granth. Their reply was no . They had a profound hate towards Dasam granth sahib. There was no change in their attitude on that.

It is not only Spokesman who is anti dasam granth. Missionaries are the one who started this and they are still the ones who mislead sangat on Dasam granth.

I believe that these former supporters of the Spokesman are undergoing cognitive dissonance:

"Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two contradictory ideas simultaneously. The theory of cognitive dissonance proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance by changing their attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors, or by justifying or rationalizing their attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors.[1] "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

Some will be forced to recant their anti-Dasam Bani beliefs, some will continue to rationalise and make excuses in order to resolve their dissonance. We can't hope for 100% recovery, but lets try to get all we can back to the fold.

Thanks for your efforts in this regard.

[Inder Singh]

I had telephoned these estranged members of spokesman club who are writing in some newspapers against him these days. One of them is Kirpal singh Bhatinda.I told them that they were misled by spokesman on Dasam granth. Their reply was no . They had a profound hate towards Dasam granth sahib. There was no change in their attitude on that.

It is not only Spokesman who is anti dasam granth. Missionaries are the one who started this and they are still the ones who mislead sangat on Dasam granth.

I believe that these former supporters of the Spokesman are undergoing cognitive dissonance:

"Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two contradictory ideas simultaneously. The theory of cognitive dissonance proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance by changing their attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors, or by justifying or rationalizing their attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors.[1] "

http://en.wikipedia....tive_dissonance

Some will be forced to recant their anti-Dasam Bani beliefs, some will continue to rationalise and make excuses in order to resolve their dissonance. We can't hope for 100% recovery, but lets try to get all we can back to the fold.

Thanks for your efforts in this regard.

Holding contrary views in private does not matter. The problem is their abusive pronouncements about Dasam granth sahib.

They use a very low language which reflects their goonda character. That is when their becomes intolerable.

Darshan singh is a new entrant to this club of rogues. They existed before him and will continue to exist after heretic spokesman leaves the scene.

[khalsaland]

Darshan Ragi has proven himself to be a Charlton, a Guru-nindak and a traitor of the panth.

When Gurtagaddi celebrations were going on in Nanded, he declared that until the Prakash of Sri Dasam Granth is removed from Hazoor Sahib he will wear a black robe. A few days ago while doing keertan in Indianapolis he was wearing a flashy, silky, creamy kurta-payjama....What a lier and joker he is! Throughout his career he has played with the emotions of the sangat, and he continues to do so.

While serving as Akal Takhat Jathedar he was once admitted to a hospital in Amritsar and he asked the doctor on duty to provide him with whisky. He told the doctor that he is habituated to have a glass of alcohol every evening. The doctor is very close to a senior official of SGPC who communicated this information.

Its a shame that just because of his anti Badal rhetoric, which also has a political rather than religious undertone, the Sarna brothers are supporting this Guru-Nindak by giving him stage to spew venom against Sikh principles. They give him stage to do keertan....and instead of doing keertan he gives discourses condemning Dasam Bani...

He carries a big sri sahib wherever he goes...and the concept of Shaster, Sri Sahib, Kirpan, Khadag comes ONLY from Sri Dasam Granth! What a Charlton!