Why We Critisized Mr. Darshan Singh Raagi?

[batala]

SSA to all,

Main jdo da dasam granth baarey vivaad nu le k sun reha c te aj main dasam granth de kuj chapter read kitey ne. Main sochda ha k Darshan Singh ji nu bura kehan di bajaye kam se kam ik vaar dasam granth da anuvaad ta read karna chahida hai, mera apna opinion hai k eh rachna guru ji nahi likh sakdey....bt main wrong v ho sakda ha.....par mere mann ch kuch question ne...ki main apney dosta( jo tussi ho ) toh umeed kar sakda ha k oh meri confuson door karangey ? Main v sikh ha te guru di nindya nahi sun sakda bt jo problems saanu sikha nu vandhan layee ready ne...km se kam uhna baarey bina gussa kitian gal ta kar hi sakdey ha.Baaki sorry dears meri english thodi poor hai bt tussi English ch reply kar sakdey ho. Thanks ji.

[ladli-fauj]

Jaroor Sikhan Nu Dasam Granth Ji Di Santhiya Honi Chai Di Hai Nalle Guru Granth Sahib di Santhiya. But we also need to tackle anti Sikh elements.. kio ke Guru Da Hukham Hai that Khalsa, paapia te zulma de against lardeh ga... if we sit back and not fight against evil, what face will we show to Guru Gobind Singh Ji

Asi (Sikh Panth) Je Naa Lardeh Ajit Te Jujhar Wangu, Baaja Waleh Di Das Santaan Ki Hai

[ladli-fauj]

this is where the question comes is nindiya of nindaks ok, even though I think it isn't the anger brings it out, but i could be wrong only Guru Ji knows if nindiya of nindaks is ok.

i have video of Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Ji in Stockton, California and he said that Nindiya of people like Ram Raheem isn't wrong because its the truth

[Guest shastr]

waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh singh saab ji

saadi vi engrazi poor eh dear ji, so eh reply punjabi vich hi tuwanu fit bethegi. tusi dasam granth dey kedde kedde chapter read kite si ji? tey tuwanda aapna opinion jo hai, oh tuwada hai, tey shaid tuwade opinion naal gall nahi bananni. panjve patshah, shaheeda de sirtaaj, sri sukhmani sahib vich bachan karde ne " jis kai antar basai nirankar, tis ki seekh tarai sansaar". es da matlab hai, ki jina jina gurmukh piyareaan de hirdeyaan vich nirankar parmeshwar waheguru ji da parkash hai, ohna di jo sikhya hai, ohna da jo opinion hai, uss opinion nu mann ke, sansaar de lok dunia vicho paar hunde ne. ehna gurmukh piyareaan nu sant mahapursh de naam naal vi satkariya janda hai. jo maharaj de bhagat hunde ne, ohna nu maharaj di poori samaj hundi aa, tey jedde sadde opinion ne, eh tey saare "gaali hoshiyaan" de heading under fit ho jande ne.

ehdan de mahapursh sikh panth vich bohut ginti vich hoye ne. sadde jamane vich jedde jedde hoye ne, ohna vich ne: baba nand singh ji, baba attar singh ji, baba mit singh ji, bhai vir singh ji, taksaal de saare jathedar, baba harnam singh ji rampurkhera, rara sahib wale saare mahapursh, kaar seva wale mahapursh. jey assi ohna nu puch ke vekhiye, tey oh saare kende ne ki sri dasam guru granth sahib ji di jo bani hai, saari guru dasmesh patshah di hi hai. ik ehdan de mahapursh hoye ne, baba jarnail singh ji khalsa, jina da bachan hai: jedda banda sir dasam di bani nu nahi mann da, ohs nu nastik atte bemukh samjo guru ton. baba ji da ik hor bachan hai ki: ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਦਾ ਪਾਠ ਤੇ ਅਰਥ ਸਮਝਣੇ ਤਾਂ ਦਰਕਿਨਾਰ, ਬੁਜ਼ਦਿਲ ਆਦਮੀ ਇਸ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਸੁਣ ਨਹੀਂ ਸਕਦਾ. ਇਹ ਕਾਇਰਾਂ ਦਾ' ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ. ਇਸ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੇ ਇਕ ਇਕ ਅੰਗ ਵਿਚੋਂ ਹਾਥੀਆਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਚਿੰਗਾਰਾਂ, ਕਿਰਪਾਨਾਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਟੁਣਕਾਰਾਂ, ਤੇ ਘੋੜਿਆਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਰਕਾਬਾਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਅਵਾਜ਼ਾਂ ਸੁਣਦੀਆਂ ਹਨ।

eh hai sikhiya ohna di, jina de bare maharaj guru granth sahib ji lakhan bachan karde han ke bhai, santa mahapurshaan di ja ke seva kariya karo, ja ke naam dhan mangoh santa kolon.

saare sant mahapursh jo ne, oh tey saare khende ne ki sri guru dasam granth ji di bani guru gobind singh ji ne hi likhi eh, par eh darshan singh ajj high class da mahapush tey nahi, koi high class da sant tey nahi, koi bhramgiani tey nahi. tey eh kidaan parchar kari janda eh ki guru gobind singh ji ne koi bani nahi likhi? eh hunda koun eh eho jahiyaan gallan karan wala? jedde bani 300 saalan ton panth vich parvaan hai, ek ment di vich hi oh bani nu panth vicho kidaan kadiya ja sakda hai? jey dasam di bani bani nahi haigi, tey fir amrit sanchar kidaan karaan ge bhaji? je dasam di bani bani nahi, fir nitnem kidaan karaan ge? ji dasam di bani bani nahi, fir ardaas kidaan karaan ge?

bhai sahib ji, tusi dasam di bani nu ki paddo ge, tuwanu dasam di bani de arth tey aounde nahi hunne, tussi mind na kariyo, par tuwadi umar kini aa ji? tuwadi santhiya vi kithon hoyi aa ke nahi?

[S1ngh]

guru sahib ji da granth kaley in basha vich nahey likhey but used many different languages. oh languages/basha bahut ghaat bandiya nuh pata ya.. jehra dasam granth nuh samajna chahunda ya, uhnu pehla saal uttay saal pehla basha sikhneyaa pehaney fir changey taran satanhiya taksal toh sikhney pehnaey ya.. fir veey bahut aukha ya samajna guru sahib jee di bani kiyon ki saddey generation gurmat vich bahut pichaay reh gaeey ya. tusey aap hey dekh lavo, punjab teh bahar sikhaan da ki haal hoeya ya.. gurbani samaj nahey aundi teh karday neh galat kamm..

aah jehra bona madra professor baniya firda: ehnu pehla ta banda puchay tuh **** prof. di degree kithaay kitey, fir puchaay.. sarey umar kirtan katrda reha dasam granth bani utay paisay kamaun laey.. uhdo ehdi professareey kithay gaey? eh madra pitttoo baney sarnay dah teh sanu sareeya nuh pata sarna kidda pitoo ya.. (congressseyaan dah)... 25 saal ho gay sarnay vargay kameney jaaat bandiya nehh hallay taak delhi deh gareeeb widows(vidva aurrataan) nuh koe support nahey diteey.. teh eho jeh banday khush hunday jadoo har saal apney delhi diya bibian najara kareedya pasisay mangan laeey sarkar aggaay...

assey ki kar sakday yaaan? Akal takht da hukam mano, kissay deh na suno.. jeh knowledge nahey haegey tah dujjay nuh kaho.. "chup kar" meh appay khoj kar lavan ga rab di mehar naal..

[batala]

waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh singh saab ji

saadi vi engrazi poor eh dear ji, so eh reply punjabi vich hi tuwanu fit bethegi. tusi dasam granth dey kedde kedde chapter read kite si ji? tey tuwanda aapna opinion jo hai, oh tuwada hai, tey shaid tuwade opinion naal gall nahi bananni. panjve patshah, shaheeda de sirtaaj, sri sukhmani sahib vich bachan karde ne " jis kai antar basai nirankar, tis ki seekh tarai sansaar". es da matlab hai, ki jina jina gurmukh piyareaan de hirdeyaan vich nirankar parmeshwar waheguru ji da parkash hai, ohna di jo sikhya hai, ohna da jo opinion hai, uss opinion nu mann ke, sansaar de lok dunia vicho paar hunde ne. ehna gurmukh piyareaan nu sant mahapursh de naam naal vi satkariya janda hai. jo maharaj de bhagat hunde ne, ohna nu maharaj di poori samaj hundi aa, tey jedde sadde opinion ne, eh tey saare "gaali hoshiyaan" de heading under fit ho jande ne.

ehdan de mahapursh sikh panth vich bohut ginti vich hoye ne. sadde jamane vich jedde jedde hoye ne, ohna vich ne: baba nand singh ji, baba attar singh ji, baba mit singh ji, bhai vir singh ji, taksaal de saare jathedar, baba harnam singh ji rampurkhera, rara sahib wale saare mahapursh, kaar seva wale mahapursh. jey assi ohna nu puch ke vekhiye, tey oh saare kende ne ki sri dasam guru granth sahib ji di jo bani hai, saari guru dasmesh patshah di hi hai. ik ehdan de mahapursh hoye ne, baba jarnail singh ji khalsa, jina da bachan hai: jedda banda sir dasam di bani nu nahi mann da, ohs nu nastik atte bemukh samjo guru ton. baba ji da ik hor bachan hai ki: ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਦਾ ਪਾਠ ਤੇ ਅਰਥ ਸਮਝਣੇ ਤਾਂ ਦਰਕਿਨਾਰ, ਬੁਜ਼ਦਿਲ ਆਦਮੀ ਇਸ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਸੁਣ ਨਹੀਂ ਸਕਦਾ. ਇਹ ਕਾਇਰਾਂ ਦਾ' ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ. ਇਸ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੇ ਇਕ ਇਕ ਅੰਗ ਵਿਚੋਂ ਹਾਥੀਆਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਚਿੰਗਾਰਾਂ, ਕਿਰਪਾਨਾਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਟੁਣਕਾਰਾਂ, ਤੇ ਘੋੜਿਆਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਰਕਾਬਾਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਅਵਾਜ਼ਾਂ ਸੁਣਦੀਆਂ ਹਨ।

eh hai sikhiya ohna di, jina de bare maharaj guru granth sahib ji lakhan bachan karde han ke bhai, santa mahapurshaan di ja ke seva kariya karo, ja ke naam dhan mangoh santa kolon.

saare sant mahapursh jo ne, oh tey saare khende ne ki sri guru dasam granth ji di bani guru gobind singh ji ne hi likhi eh, par eh darshan singh ajj high class da mahapush tey nahi, koi high class da sant tey nahi, koi bhramgiani tey nahi. tey eh kidaan parchar kari janda eh ki guru gobind singh ji ne koi bani nahi likhi? eh hunda koun eh eho jahiyaan gallan karan wala? jedde bani 300 saalan ton panth vich parvaan hai, ek ment di vich hi oh bani nu panth vicho kidaan kadiya ja sakda hai? jey dasam di bani bani nahi haigi, tey fir amrit sanchar kidaan karaan ge bhaji? je dasam di bani bani nahi, fir nitnem kidaan karaan ge? ji dasam di bani bani nahi, fir ardaas kidaan karaan ge?

bhai sahib ji, tusi dasam di bani nu ki paddo ge, tuwanu dasam di bani de arth tey aounde nahi hunne, tussi mind na kariyo, par tuwadi umar kini aa ji? tuwadi santhiya vi kithon hoyi aa ke nahi?

Tussi ta lagda hai k gussey vich aa gaye ho...main kitey v ta eh nahi likhya k mera opinion theek hai ya eh badal nahi sakda...na hi main eh aakhda ha k dasam granth di saari samaj mainu aa gayee hai...esey krkey ta main ithey aya ha k tuhaadey kolo kuj sikh ska...thodey din pehla mere hi ik dost ne mainu puchya k isda ki matlab hai- SARAB KAAL HAI PITA APAARA DEBI KALKA MAAT HAMAARA(BACHITAR NAATAK,PAGE NUMBER 73) and TU HI JOG MAYA TUHI BAAK BAANI TUHI AAP RUPA TUHI SRI BHAWANI TU HI BISAN TU BRAHM TU RUDRA RAAJEY TU HI BISAWMATA SADA JE BIRAAJEY TU HI DEV TUHI DAINT TE JUSH UPAYE TU HI TURAK HINDU JAGAT MEIN BANAYE TUHI PANTH HAIAVTAR SARISHTI MAHI TU HI BAKAT TE BRAHM BAADO BAKAHI TUHI BIKRAT TUHI CHAAR NAINA TU HI ROOP BAALA TUHI BAK BAINA TU HI BAK TE BED CHARO UCHARE TUMMI SUMBH NAISUMBH DAANO SANGHARO(please mainu isda matlab dasna ji)

ver ji eh na samjna k main kisey zid te arrya ha...balki main sachmuch man lena chahunda ha k eh granth guru ji ne hi likhya hai.....please mainu samjavo taki main baaki loka nu v das ska k eh baani guru ji ne hi likhi hai te iss vich guru ji ne kisey devi di ustat nahi kiti.

veer ji tussi meri age puchi c...main 30 years old ha....te shayad nadaan te murakh v...kyonki mere mann ch question bahut uthdey ne............

[Inder Singh]

SSA to all,

Main jdo da dasam granth baarey vivaad nu le k sun reha c te aj main dasam granth de kuj chapter read kitey ne. Main sochda ha k Darshan Singh ji nu bura kehan di bajaye kam se kam ik vaar dasam granth da anuvaad ta read karna chahida hai, mera apna opinion hai k eh rachna guru ji nahi likh sakdey....bt main wrong v ho sakda ha.....par mere mann ch kuch question ne...ki main apney dosta( jo tussi ho ) toh umeed kar sakda ha k oh meri confuson door karangey ? Main v sikh ha te guru di nindya nahi sun sakda bt jo problems saanu sikha nu vandhan layee ready ne...km se kam uhna baarey bina gussa kitian gal ta kar hi sakdey ha.Baaki sorry dears meri english thodi poor hai bt tussi English ch reply kar sakdey ho. Thanks ji.

Since you have not read Dasam granth sahib you should not say that this is not from Guru gobind singh ji.

Same way fake ragis, thug missionaries have also not read Dasam granth sahib.

I have read Dasam granth sahib and i can say that all is from guru gobind singh ji. You can ask us questions in good faith without criticizing Dasam granth sahib.

Tussi ta lagda hai k gussey vich aa gaye ho...main kitey v ta eh nahi likhya k mera opinion theek hai ya eh badal nahi sakda...na hi main eh aakhda ha k dasam granth di saari samaj mainu aa gayee hai...esey krkey ta main ithey aya ha k tuhaadey kolo kuj sikh ska...thodey din pehla mere hi ik dost ne mainu puchya k isda ki matlab hai- SARAB KAAL HAI PITA APAARA DEBI KALKA MAAT HAMAARA(BACHITAR NAATAK,PAGE NUMBER 73) and TU HI JOG MAYA TUHI BAAK BAANI TUHI AAP RUPA TUHI SRI BHAWANI TU HI BISAN TU BRAHM TU RUDRA RAAJEY TU HI BISAWMATA SADA JE BIRAAJEY TU HI DEV TUHI DAINT TE JUSH UPAYE TU HI TURAK HINDU JAGAT MEIN BANAYE TUHI PANTH HAIAVTAR SARISHTI MAHI TU HI BAKAT TE BRAHM BAADO BAKAHI TUHI BIKRAT TUHI CHAAR NAINA TU HI ROOP BAALA TUHI BAK BAINA TU HI BAK TE BED CHARO UCHARE TUMMI SUMBH NAISUMBH DAANO SANGHARO(please mainu isda matlab dasna ji)

ver ji eh na samjna k main kisey zid te arrya ha...balki main sachmuch man lena chahunda ha k eh granth guru ji ne hi likhya hai.....please mainu samjavo taki main baaki loka nu v das ska k eh baani guru ji ne hi likhi hai te iss vich guru ji ne kisey devi di ustat nahi kiti.

veer ji tussi meri age puchi c...main 30 years old ha....te shayad nadaan te murakh v...kyonki mere mann ch question bahut uthdey ne............

What is wrong with above. Guru sahib is addressing this to akal purkah and saying that it is you has created all these figures.In essence it is akal purkah who pervades in all of us. *deleted*

[batala]

SSA to all,

Main jdo da dasam granth baarey vivaad nu le k sun reha c te aj main dasam granth de kuj chapter read kitey ne. Main sochda ha k Darshan Singh ji nu bura kehan di bajaye kam se kam ik vaar dasam granth da anuvaad ta read karna chahida hai, mera apna opinion hai k eh rachna guru ji nahi likh sakdey....bt main wrong v ho sakda ha.....par mere mann ch kuch question ne...ki main apney dosta( jo tussi ho ) toh umeed kar sakda ha k oh meri confuson door karangey ? Main v sikh ha te guru di nindya nahi sun sakda bt jo problems saanu sikha nu vandhan layee ready ne...km se kam uhna baarey bina gussa kitian gal ta kar hi sakdey ha.Baaki sorry dears meri english thodi poor hai bt tussi English ch reply kar sakdey ho. Thanks ji.

Since you have not read Dasam granth sahib you should not say that this is not from Guru gobind singh ji.

Same way fake ragis, thug missionaries have also not read Dasam granth sahib.

I have read Dasam granth sahib and i can say that all is from guru gobind singh ji. You can ask us questions in good faith without criticizing Dasam granth sahib.

Tussi ta lagda hai k gussey vich aa gaye ho...main kitey v ta eh nahi likhya k mera opinion theek hai ya eh badal nahi sakda...na hi main eh aakhda ha k dasam granth di saari samaj mainu aa gayee hai...esey krkey ta main ithey aya ha k tuhaadey kolo kuj sikh ska...thodey din pehla mere hi ik dost ne mainu puchya k isda ki matlab hai- SARAB KAAL HAI PITA APAARA DEBI KALKA MAAT HAMAARA(BACHITAR NAATAK,PAGE NUMBER 73) and TU HI JOG MAYA TUHI BAAK BAANI TUHI AAP RUPA TUHI SRI BHAWANI TU HI BISAN TU BRAHM TU RUDRA RAAJEY TU HI BISAWMATA SADA JE BIRAAJEY TU HI DEV TUHI DAINT TE JUSH UPAYE TU HI TURAK HINDU JAGAT MEIN BANAYE TUHI PANTH HAIAVTAR SARISHTI MAHI TU HI BAKAT TE BRAHM BAADO BAKAHI TUHI BIKRAT TUHI CHAAR NAINA TU HI ROOP BAALA TUHI BAK BAINA TU HI BAK TE BED CHARO UCHARE TUMMI SUMBH NAISUMBH DAANO SANGHARO(please mainu isda matlab dasna ji)

ver ji eh na samjna k main kisey zid te arrya ha...balki main sachmuch man lena chahunda ha k eh granth guru ji ne hi likhya hai.....please mainu samjavo taki main baaki loka nu v das ska k eh baani guru ji ne hi likhi hai te iss vich guru ji ne kisey devi di ustat nahi kiti.

veer ji tussi meri age puchi c...main 30 years old ha....te shayad nadaan te murakh v...kyonki mere mann ch question bahut uthdey ne............

What is wrong with above. Guru sahib is addressing this to akal purkah and saying that it is you has created all these figures.In essence it is akal purkah who pervades in all of us.Even dummies can interpret this.

veer ji main critisize nahu kar reha bt fir v j chota veer samjdey ho ta please upar kilhian satra de meaning line wise dasan di kirpa karo ji.

[Inder Singh]

Batala

You are being clever here.You wrote in your first post

mera apna opinion hai k eh rachna guru ji nahi likh sakdey

That shows where you stand. Sikhs do not adopt deceitful tactics.

The lines you have given above mean that it is akal purakh who have created these figures.

These are no different than what is written in jap ji sahib

Guru issar

Gur gorakh barma

Gur parbati mai

[batala]

Batala

You are being clever here.You wrote in your first post

mera apna opinion hai k eh rachna guru ji nahi likh sakdey

That shows where you stand. Sikhs do not adopt deceitful tactics.

The lines you have given above mean that it is akal purakh who have created these figures.

These are no different than what is written in jap ji sahib

Guru issar

Gur gorakh barma

Gur parbati mai

Dear inder i am not clever....main sirf inna lines de tartib vaar meaning pta karna chahunda ha...je assin sri guru granth sahib de har hukumnaamey da meaning kar sakdey ha...te fir kyon nahi isdian sb lines da meaning tussi mainu line wise dasdey....veerey...tussi aap hi daso...main iss baarey kis kolo pucha...?