Using A Shaster

[sikhshaster]

WaheguruJiKaKhalsaWaheguruJiKiFateh

When is it acceptable to use a shaster on someone (besides self defence)?

Secondly I know to use it in self defence, but can you kill in self defence??

WaheguruJiKaKhalsaWaheguruJiKiFateh

[Matheen]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

As an absolutely last resort. Guru Sahib says 'When all other means of ending injustice have failed, it is justifiable to draw the sword". On a personal level, this could mean protecting others, protecting dharm, protecting yourself.

It really does have to be the last option though.

[mohinder pal]

Degh Tegh Fateh

[sikhshaster]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

As an absolutely last resort. Guru Sahib says 'When all other means of ending injustice have failed, it is justifiable to draw the sword". On a personal level, this could mean protecting others, protecting dharm, protecting yourself.

It really does have to be the last option though.

Thanks, i was just thinking about Bow 09, So what would you or the sangat out there say should be the punishment for the person who committed it??

Or any other beddabi of Guru.

[Matheen]

Thanks, i was just thinking about Bow 09, So what would you or the sangat out there say should be the punishment for the person who committed it??

Or any other beddabi of Guru.

Gur Ni Ninda Suneh Naa Kaan......

I think you know the answer!

[sikhshaster]

Waheguruuuuu!!! Thanks!

[mohinder pal]

There are two ways to it:

1. THe One who is Shashterdhari- Not to Listen to Guru Nindaks-Raise the Sword and Kill the Guru Nindak.He should be Dharam Rakshak.

2. THe one who is Naam Bandagi wale Side- He should avoid sitting in Guru Nindaks society. SHould avoid getting into Fights with Others. If anybody does Guru Ninda, He/She shoulf leave that place immediately.

[K. SINGH DEEP]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

As an absolutely last resort. Guru Sahib says 'When all other means of ending injustice have failed, it is justifiable to draw the sword". On a personal level, this could mean protecting others, protecting dharm, protecting yourself.

It really does have to be the last option though.

Thanks, i was just thinking about Bow 09, So what would you or the sangat out there say should be the punishment for the person who committed it??

Or any other beddabi of Guru.

yes exactly, as is told by our DASHMESH PITA Guru Gobind Singh ji in ZAFARNAMA :-

ਚੁ ਕਾਰ ਅਜ਼ ਹਮਹ ਹੀਲਤੇ ਦਰ ਗੁਜ਼ਸ਼ਤ ॥ ਹਲਾਲ ਅਸਤ ਬੁਰਦਨ ਬ ਸ਼ਮਸ਼ੀਰ ਦਸਤ ॥੨੨॥

Chu kaar az hamah heelte dar guzasht || Halaal ast burden ba shamsheer dast||22||

When all other methods fail, it is proper to hold the sword in hand.22.

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh