Patka To Turban

[sunny_love_kirtan]

ok...... so now we have normal sikhs and abnormal sikhs?

so if normal sikhs drink and eat meat, what do the non-normal sikhs do?

they eat paneerrr ROLF

[mundasingh123]

ok...... so now we have normal sikhs and abnormal sikhs?

so if normal sikhs drink and eat meat, what do the non-normal sikhs do?

I didnt bring up the issue of abnormal sikhs .LOL

I would say Nonnormal sikhs are the sikhs who loive strictly accordingly to the rehatmaryada if that is what meant to be followed by amritdhaaris.

I dont wish to deviate from the point at hand so would limit my answer to the question asked.

But i still find hypocrisy prevalent among some sikhs who believe they are amritdhaaris.

In my office i was approached by a sikh who was supposed to be amritdhaari ,who was asking me for mild porn stuff.

I once put up at Dixie gurdwara and Langar Saheb , Huzoor saheb , Nanded where i heard ragis and others abusing and using expletives such as "p...d". within the Langar premises which is not far from the Darbar Saheb. Is all this accepted ?

I am not amritdhaari and i dont nurse any ill will against anybody and also dont indulge in any immoral acts so who is preferable a non amritdhari drinking and eating meat but not indulging in any immoral activities or some ppl who are supposed to be following strict code yet dont follow it.

[singh1986]

I am not amritdhaari and i dont nurse any ill will against anybody and also dont indulge in any immoral acts so who is preferable a non amritdhari drinking and eating meat but not indulging in any immoral activities or some ppl who are supposed to be following strict code yet dont follow it.

In response, there was an analogy I once read on this forum a while back said by some Gursikh in regards to the above issue!

There are 2 glasses... 1 dirty and mucky from the outside but nonetheless clean on the inside (non-amritdharis you mention!), the other looking clean from the outside but yet dirty from the inside (the offending amritdhari's!)...

now both glasses you wouldnt drink from, but having to choose you would stick to the glass clean on the inside, nonetheless it is important to be clean both on the inside and outside when concerning Sikhi...

Nevertheless it is important to note IMO that not all amritdharis are perfect, they are human afterall... however it is important not to tar the image of ALL amritdharis due to the actions of some... you just havent had the pleasure of meeting some of nicer ones!

[gurdssingh]

Personally the transition was very hard and long over-due simply because there was no turban wearing members in the family so it was a case of harrassing the local gyani every week to learn how to tie one! Youtube vids didnt help! finanlly made my break through where a dastaar although sliding to oneside would stay on my head for the duration of one day by the time i was 21...

and yerh its a responsibilty thing... everyone knows, once you are wearing a dastaar it reps sikhi! thats a BIG responsibilty...! most patka wearing youth still drink/ eat meat etc... so for them to wear a dastaar is simply a no no!

Sorry in advance if this question is wrong but why is wearing a dastar a big no no for patka wearing guys who eat meat, drink etc. I mean they still wearing patka so therefore still look like sikhs.

In punjab in govt. jobs many have haircuts and wear dastars on duty so why so wrong?

[singh1986]

Sorry in advance if this question is wrong but why is wearing a dastar a big no no for patka wearing guys who eat meat, drink etc. I mean they still wearing patka so therefore still look like sikhs.

In punjab in govt. jobs many have haircuts and wear dastars on duty so why so wrong?

Well from what I understand is that the Dastaar is given a bigger sign of respect! I think most youth these days are under the belief that the Patka in essence is a modern day invention of conveniance whilst the dastaar is something Gurusikhs wore, although they both are known to be the head wear of sikhs the patka in a sense has less importance... Ive even known of singhs who normally where a dastaar but if entering a club/bar situation due to either pleasure or work reasons... take it off and wear just a patka.

There is in a sense satkar for the dastaar... if thats the right way to put it!?