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Intercaste Marriage Problem Of Amridhari Gursikhs

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Waheguru ji ka khalsa

Waheguru ji ki fateh,

I want to tell the problem that my friends are facing in their marriages and also seek your opinion and

advice what they have to do.

My friends a boy and girl are amritdhari, well educated and well earning hand gursikhs and they have in love relation from 3 years, and now they decide to spend their life together.The main problem is the castism. Girl is from jatt sikh family and boy is from ramgarhia family. Both families are amridhari families.

When girl talk to their parents that she has chosen a amritdhari boy as her life partner, they didnt listen to her and say clear No to his choice. They even dont like to meet the

boy for a minute. They said her k oh usdi pasand nu na ta dekhna chaunde han te na koi gall sun na chaunde han, Kuri ne apne parents agge guru granth sahib, sikh history te amrit de

kafi aspects rakh k samjaya but all in vein. Oh ehi keh rhey han k how dare u to choose her life partner herself. Oh usdi pasand nu mil k usde vichar v nahi jan na chaunde.

Both ask me what to do in this situation if everything is according to gursikhi then why their parents dont ready to accept them. Girl has great respect for her parents and also for her spiritual

parents dasam pita Guru gobind singh , mata sahib kaur and his love a amritdhari gursikh boy. Oh ehna tina vicho kisse nu v chad nahi sakdi.

Parents saying no to her love, oh ohna da diregard nahi karna chaundi.

As a amritdhari girl, she also dont want to disregard his spiritual parents as they said "Manas ki jaat sabbe ekke pehchanbo".

Usde parents keh rhey han k usdi galti eh hai k usne app apna life partner kyu chuneya, assi loka nu ki kahange.

I dont have any answer to her parents thoughts, k je ik amritdhari gursikh nu ohna di kuri ne app labh leya hai ta ohna di izzat mitti ch mil jani hai.

Eh soch ohna de dimag ch ghar kar gyi hai jis karke guru granth sahib te amrit di koi gall ohna di samj ch nahi aa rhi.

Ho sakda oh thik hon par guru granth sahib de according ik sache gursikh da sath milan nall kisse di izat mitti ch nahi mildi.

Suggest karo k iss tarah di situation ch ik gursikh vaste ki karna chaida hai, ja ta oh amritdhari ladke nallo reltion khatam kar deve kyuki usde parents nahi man de, ja amritdhari hon

karke sirf guru di gall mann k parents de against jave. Usde parents nu kiss tarha mould kita ja sakda hai te je ohna di soch phir v nahi badaldi ta ladki vaste ki decision laina sahi hai.

If you have some advices for them then please reply.

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If they're both amrtidhari (as you've clearly stated), there should be NO problem. If the family of the girl are objecting purely on caste basis then shame on them.

If there are other factors involved (such as employment, income, etc.,) then there will be objections.

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LOLLL^^^

Thats the cutest animal I have ever seen. Ahh the wonders of gods creation!

p.s black, white, chinese it doesn't matter. If my parents wouldn;t die of heart attacks if I married a black white or chinese person I would not think twice about marrying out of race let alone caste.

The beauty of gods khel extends to the fact that his children look different but are the same on the inside, they are just as yet unrealized- we, the fools, see differences and thats what makes us lose janam after janam.

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well there both amritdhsri and i dont see where the problem is but i am kid that doesnt understand jatts and ramgharia everyone is the same why separate every sikh in to a more types like jatts and again ramgharia though i am ramgharia myself its sad i mean they say they like eachother but dont the parent want their kids to be happy if they do they would let them say yes i will think about it and come up with a solution but they are making them sad if they dont they end up with someone stupid theyll end up regreting it and the parents because it is mainly the parents fault they did that so just hear me out let them be together they like eachother i dont want anythingbad to happen to anyone even though i donot know them thankyou for reading anonymous waheguru ji kha khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

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This likely won't be a popular post.

All the folks saying that caste should not be a problem are correct, at least as far as the theoretical side is concerned. However, in reality, more often than not, caste is the first thing parents look for. Same thing has happened in my family as well.

Firstly, I fail to understand what these amritdhari gursikhs are doing 'falling in love for 3 years' in the first place. Let's assume that they did not know that their parents will be so stern with the caste issue. Even then, 25 or so years of love and support the parents have given both kids can not be thrown down the drain for a mere 3 year relationship. On the other hand if they knew that the parents will be stern on the caste issue, then it is their and only their fault for starting this relationship in the first place.

For a few weeks I hated my parents for supporting this caste issue myself. But I came to an understanding that while I was correct in saying that caste should not be an issue, they were correct in making it a priority as well. No one is at fault here, the only difference is that I was looking at the issue from a theoretical perspective and my parents look at the issue from a realist perspective.

This caste disease has plagued the Sikh nation for far too long, I optimistically hope that it can be eradicated to a large extend with the next generation or two, at least in the western countries. I don't see it going away anytime soon in India however.

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Says a lot when even Amritdhari families don't seem committed to combating casteism in the panth.

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I think Amritdhari parents are afraid of what the community or even their own family will say, if they allow their kids to marry out of caste.

But then it's like picking and choosing which parts of Sikhi people are to follow.

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Result of Love Marriage

love_marr_zenky.jpg

It's always the kids that suffer

Hang on, are you equating two Sikhs of different man made castes marrying being akin to two different animal species interbreeding?!!

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Firstly, Rehat-waan Amritdhari's aren't suppose to be fooling around.

Secondly, they don't have Guts to get married on their own so everything else is USELESS.

Lastly, watch the video

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Guest bul chuk maf karni.

the thing i dunt get is that yu both are amritdari.nd how can yu even have love relationship for 3 years. pls prove me rong i am confused. yu r not suppose to have boyfriend/gafriend. am i rite?

bul chuk maf karni.

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Family elders should always be consulted on these matters due to the simple fact that when you marry someone it is just not you who is going to be impacted by your decision the person you marry will be meeting and socializing with all family if the family is not giving the blessing then it should be respected as the tension down the road will have a negative impact on both families

As amrtidhari they have given into lust and should have first consulted their families community and elders before undertaking this big step

People who are focused on lust and love are not ready to be amritdhari and should have first controlled their instincts before taking such a step as amrit which if they had practices correctly they wouldnt have had time for lust or love of anyone but the guru

Does anyone know of any brahamgiani who fell to lust and went on to become a gursikh we should adhere to become exactly

Its when you start mixing the values of the none initiated sikhs into gursikhi that you lose all focus on the ultimate goal of Sikhi to get rid of all demons and become one with god

Personally I think this couple is too weak to become gursikh because if they are gursikh and can fall into lust whats to say they wont do it again with someone else and a gursikh that cant be loyal to his family and household can never be loyal to their panth and I think these kinds of people made the wrong choice in becoming gursikh.

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Result of Love Marriage

love_marr_zenky.jpg

It's always the kids that suffer

Phtoshop mulipulated images does not equal real life. Mixed race and mixed faith children do not suffer in my opinion, what makes you think they do? As half there body is not one colour and the other half another colour, so your picture is neither clever or funny just shows you as a bigotted individual.

What about amritdhari white folks marrying amritdhari punjabis, will they be half brown and half white? Umh NO, a while back that white girl daughter of MP aitkens married a Singh from india every one on this site gave them congrats.

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Phtoshop mulipulated images does not equal real life. Mixed race and mixed faith children do not suffer in my opinion, what makes you think they do? As half there body is not one colour and the other half another colour, so your picture is neither clever or funny just shows you as a bigotted individual.

What about amritdhari white folks marrying amritdhari punjabis, will they be half brown and half white? Umh NO, a while back that white girl daughter of MP aitkens married a Singh from india every one on this site gave them congrats.

When one parents teaches their kid that 1+3=2 and the other parent teaches the kid that 1+1=11. Then there is a problem. Children of interfaith marriages do suffer because their parents that will be teaching them about religion didn't commit to their religion completely (they picked worldly love over God), so how can they give their children religion, which will contradict each other?

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if u r taking 'Singh' or 'kaur' as ur middle name, then u r not a sikh in actual.....u r a sikh if u r recognized by "singh" or "kaur" , not with some other name of any caste....all castes in sikhs became sikhs by there own choice.........nd if u r already a sikh, then what's the purpose of retainig ur caste name.........all sikhs must keep one thing in their mind that the only belong to sikhism ,rather than any caste. In the i want to give the answer..."either call urself a sikh or call urself of some caste,...but if say that i m that(caste)sikh, then u r not a sikh in actual....coz there is nothing lyk 'that(caste)' in sikhism. A sikh is a sikh dats it !

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