Jathedar & Singh Sahiban In Uk

[Pyara]

Some of us may be fortunate enough to have darshan of the Singh Sahiban in the next few days. Humble benti to those who are in a postion to speak to the Singh Sahiban, perhaps you can discuss the following with them:

1 - Please reiterate the 2006 Sandesh, where Akal Takht Sahib clearly say no meat, alcohol, dancing and parties in any gurdwara property. Many of the UK committees who allow this manmat still make their own interpretations that meat and alcohol can be served in gurdwara owned comunity halls.

2 - Guru Nanak Singh Sabha Gurdwara Dudley refusing to stop meat and alcohol in gurdwara community hall even after beanti from sikh leaders and sangat. They openly critised Sikh Maryada, what would you say about their behaviour?

3 - 25 years of Sarbat Khalsa, what are your views on the decisions made that day and how can we work towards acheiving those aspirations?

4 - What seva does the Akal Takhat do for 1984 shaheed families and how can the uk sikhs support?

5 - How can UK Sikhs help to get justice for 1984 and more recent victims of government brutality?

Anymore ideas???

[TavPrasad Singh]

We need to provide them a list of names and addresses of the GNSS Dudley Gurdwara committee so that they can be thrown out of the panth!

[dalsingh101]

I remember a few years ago some Singhs tried to ask Jathedar Vedanti some questions in Birmingham and he threw a wobbly! I hope these ones aren't like that. Jathedars need to accessible to the panth and work in the spirit of public servants accountable to the Sikh people.

[mundasingh123]

I remember a few years ago some Singhs tried to ask Jathedar Vedanti some questions in Birmingham and he threw a wobbly! I hope these ones aren't like that. Jathedars need to accessible to the panth and work in the spirit of public servants accountable to the Sikh people.

transparency and open access are not part of the culture prevalent in punjab nowadays

[dalsingh101]

transparency and open access are not part of the culture prevalent in punjab nowadays

Which is a shame because it could help keep corruption in check. The repercussions of possibly having corruption in premiere Sikh institutions could be devastating to the Sikh community.

What surprises me is how we've gone from a flat, egalitarian, radical society to a super conservative, hierarchical one.

Let's be honest, historical Gurdwaray bring in big cash and where ever we find big money, we also find certain types of 'ambitious' people trying to control it.

[zoltansingh]

They still not taken action against the Delhi Prabandakhs for the hall at Shri Rakab Ganj Sahib where meat is served and waiters/cooks smoke beedis. The Akal Takht was sent proof more than a year ago.

[mundasingh123]

They still not taken action against the Delhi Prabandakhs for the hall at Shri Rakab Ganj Sahib where meat is served and waiters/cooks smoke beedis. The Akal Takht was sent proof more than a year ago.

you mean at the parties held at Shri Rakab Ganj . Hor kaad lod ha . Jad ainee atihasik sthan nu nahi bakshaiya te tusi te london da khyal cchad do

[zoltansingh]

you mean at the parties held at Shri Rakab Ganj . Hor kaad lod ha . Jad ainee atihasik sthan nu nahi bakshaiya te tusi te london da khyal cchad do

Yes those parties, the Akal Takht office received videos etc of everything, but a year later no action against the prabandakhs.

[mundasingh123]

First we must cleanse our community of all the rubbish that these gurdwara committe people have created . Revamp the entire system . Throw out the existent committees .Get rid of the mindset that processes (Hypocritical rules and regulations )are more important than intentions .No longer can taksal be held as the lighthouse that will guide us towards attaining our spiritual and temporal objectives Then we must talk of changing the outside world

[ghatak]

Some of us may be fortunate enough to have darshan of the Singh Sahiban in the next few days. Humble benti to those who are in a postion to speak to the Singh Sahiban, perhaps you can discuss the following with them:

1 - Please reiterate the 2006 Sandesh, where Akal Takht Sahib clearly say no meat, alcohol, dancing and parties in any gurdwara property. Many of the UK committees who allow this manmat still make their own interpretations that meat and alcohol can be served in gurdwara owned comunity halls.

2 - Guru Nanak Singh Sabha Gurdwara Dudley refusing to stop meat and alcohol in gurdwara community hall even after beanti from sikh leaders and sangat. They openly critised Sikh Maryada, what would you say about their behaviour?

3 - 25 years of Sarbat Khalsa, what are your views on the decisions made that day and how can we work towards acheiving those aspirations?

4 - What seva does the Akal Takhat do for 1984 shaheed families and how can the uk sikhs support?

5 - How can UK Sikhs help to get justice for 1984 and more recent victims of government brutality?

Anymore ideas???

Bhai sahib ji you have very good main points, atleast they can do something first on these issues first.