Hukam Of Akaal Purakh

[gulabjaman2011]

Waheguru jee ka Khalsa,

Waheguru jee kee Fateh!!

Just wondered on what everyones thoughts are about hukam?

Can we change hukam?

I dont understand why during ardass people including myself ask for all sorts of things, isnt it hukam at the end of the day as to what happens. So how are we to possibly change hukam? Do things like asking for Naam di daat come under a different category?

Much appreciated for any thoughts on this post.

Gurfateh jee

[VanHelsingh]

Hukam, Fate, Destiny - can we change or affect them in any way? The age-old conundrum.

[MokhamSingh]

Khalsa ji

When a person falls ill that is hukum. When that person takes medicine and recovers that is hukum.

Gurbani is the medicine that cures our karam.

We come to maat lokh owing to our previous comitted deeds but naam daaru extinguishes those karam thus bringing about liberation.

[gulabjaman2011]

I guess ape Akal Purakh is the cause of causes. eg like uve mentioned paaji - falling ill then recovering their must have been a reason behind it.

So my question is- is it pointless to ask for thinks during ardass when at the end of the day its his hukam?

[Bundha]

There are two shools of thought :

1. It is all in His hukam so be content with what He gives you. To be able to do this needs a high level avastha. To live in His hukam is difficult, those sadhus who wonder off and don't even worry about where the next meal is going to come from because they leave it all to Him. It is faith, the stronger the faith the closer you get to Him.

2. He is our father and like a child asks his/her father then why should we not ask our father for what we need? If we are not going to go to some black magic pir, or to some fortune teller then is it not better to ask from our Guru?

It is a matter of gurparshad or kirpa and it may happen at any time, if you do ardaas God may take pity on you and do kirpa so why not ask for things. But we only ask for material things never the really important one's.

[gulabjaman2011]

Great reply thankyou! makes so much sense!