Lost The Plot Sangat Tv

[Into the Light]

spot on!

They've lost the plot...i highly praised Sangat TV for the great parchaar at first...but now to me they are like the dogra's, they will kiss anyone's backside to inflate their own Ego and maintain their own Raj at the expense of the panth!

[butter]

I am quite taken aback by some of the closed minded attitudes by some of the people on this thread; and yet they have the cheek to complain when it is they who are victims of other peoples close mindedness.

What many of you fail to see here is that three innocent men have died as a result of the disgusting attitude of others during the recent riots. Forget the stupid use of mere labelling - they are human beings above everything else. So what if Sangat TV are broadcasting the funeral? Good for them! Sorry but some of you must have forgot the part where Sri Guru Nanak Dev Jee said there is no Hindu or Muslim and that we are all one and that God is in everyone and everything. The funeral reminds the viewer of God does it not? So what if its Islamic-orientated? God has no religion. Whether the channel was spending this time on something sikhi orientated, its still "God-focused". Besides, this programme is a one off in memory of those poor men who lost their lives. Sangat TV is not bladdy broadcasting the Adhaan every morning instead of or alongside Nitnem baania, nor is it broadcasting regular muslim programmmes - only then I could begin to understand some of your criticisms.

The channel is doing the right thing. The producers or whoever, are being decent human beings who are paying respects to those innocently killed. The last time I checked, I didn't know Sikhs only cared for or remembered the death of "their own". Also, so what if muslim channels wouldn't do the same if it was a group of Sikhs who died? The attitude of "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" is not only childish, but it completely opposes the concept of sevaa.

For example, take the case of langar. Just because the church, synagogue, mandir or mosque don't serve langar like the gurdwarae do - it doesn't mean we will stop feeding people who belong to such.

Even if the muslim channels never ever acknowledge the Sikhs or any personal losses within the community, remember - two wrongs don't make a right.

Keep up the good work Sangat TV.

Vaaheguroo Jee Kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!

the following quote summaries the kind of person you are: 'if you scratch my back, i'll scratch your backside'

As your that kind of person that likes to go that one step further, even if it means to give up your own dignity and self respect.

Exactly like what sangat tv have done...................Being the Sikhs of Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj, sikhs protected the mosques including their local communities that they belong to.....................This alone was enough for the UK if not the world to observe the high moral character of the Sikhs, but it wasn't enough for the sangat tv, lot so they decided to do a live broadcast................which initially was a very good and innovative move as they succeeded in being the first sikh channel to be recognized on an International level by people of all backgrounds. Again this still wasn't enough, Downinder went from brilliant to downright embarrassing, along with the highly unprofessional approach of sangat tv. However this still wasn't enough for sangat tv, they then go and put sonia deol on.

The way she dressed to the muslim funeral was ridiculous, she should have wore a respectable suit, not skin tight jeans and shirt with high heels.

Somebody said earlier that instead of posting on here people should contact sangat tv directly........which many did.......and one of the complaints was about sonia deol, but sangattv still put her on at the funeral.

Do the people of sangat tv think they are higher than the Sangat?

As i have said before initially i had nothing but praise for sangat tv, the camera quality and delivery of some programmes is very professional and of high quality, but all this has been dwarfed by the incredible mistakes this channel has made. It should forget being a SIKHI Channel and become more of a community channel or even a news channel, that way their actions will be justified.

However under the banner of Sikhi they do not have any right to show anything other than Sikhi and there is nothing sikhi about allowing your presenter to shout allah hu akbar on the mic, some pakistani youth blatantly laughing at the fateh and jaikare, (where in defiance they shout their war cry) and allow verses of the Quran to be played live to every sikh home.

Sangat TV you cannot please everybody, you should try to understand this concept..............instead try to please the sangat, a start would be to make sure that your presenters cover their heads, i have not seen downinder ever cover his head whilst on the channel.

Again if the sikhi field is too vast for you, i suggest you become a community channel.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa. Waheguru JI KI Fateh.

[gurdssingh]

I am quite taken aback by some of the closed minded attitudes by some of the people on this thread; and yet they have the cheek to complain when it is they who are victims of other peoples close mindedness.

What many of you fail to see here is that three innocent men have died as a result of the disgusting attitude of others during the recent riots. Forget the stupid use of mere labelling - they are human beings above everything else. So what if Sangat TV are broadcasting the funeral? Good for them! Sorry but some of you must have forgot the part where Sri Guru Nanak Dev Jee said there is no Hindu or Muslim and that we are all one and that God is in everyone and everything. The funeral reminds the viewer of God does it not? So what if its Islamic-orientated? God has no religion. Whether the channel was spending this time on something sikhi orientated, its still "God-focused". Besides, this programme is a one off in memory of those poor men who lost their lives. Sangat TV is not bladdy broadcasting the Adhaan every morning instead of or alongside Nitnem baania, nor is it broadcasting regular muslim programmmes - only then I could begin to understand some of your criticisms.

The channel is doing the right thing. The producers or whoever, are being decent human beings who are paying respects to those innocently killed. The last time I checked, I didn't know Sikhs only cared for or remembered the death of "their own". Also, so what if muslim channels wouldn't do the same if it was a group of Sikhs who died? The attitude of "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" is not only childish, but it completely opposes the concept of sevaa.

For example, take the case of langar. Just because the church, synagogue, mandir or mosque don't serve langar like the gurdwarae do - it doesn't mean we will stop feeding people who belong to such.

Even if the muslim channels never ever acknowledge the Sikhs or any personal losses within the community, remember - two wrongs don't make a right.

Keep up the good work Sangat TV.

Vaaheguroo Jee Kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!

I have no affiliation or views on Sangat TV.

But I agree with the majority of your post. PLEASE just a benti to cyber sangat, concentrate on building constuctive relationships. Concentarate on your own jeevan and become good, outstanding humans with huamanitary qualities only then will you be able to call yourself a good sikh. As only someone who is a good human can cliam to be a good sikh. Sikhi is the pinicale.

You can keep amritvela, do nitnem and dasvandh in every sense but if you hate and nindya others is that really increasing your kamai and bringing you towards satguru maharaj? Don't HATE muslims, hindus or anyone else. Sikhi has taught us not to hate a religion, hate and fight the oppresor!

I have read posts on other threads about being a doormat etc. Trust me I'm not one, I'm 6"2 and train. So what if I believe in unity. Check my posts I have in the past stated my offices and location. When there was beadbi going on about images of satguru maharaj Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji (greatest person to walk the earth), not one person met from this site me even though they said they would.

Look when someone goes through bad times like I have and I am currently trying to get past, it's better to understand love than fester in hate. Read gurbani, lose the hate.

End of the day IK ONKAR. We are all waheguru's children.