Last Reply - Bhatra Community Thread

[JRoudh]

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Veer ji,

The bhagats of the gurbani called "Bhat de swaiye" originated from Sri Lanka. The original Bhat parchar movement worked its way through India, upto northern India doing parchar of sikhi. This was gurmat, not manmatt. It is the manmatt of man which then attributes caste on this movement. These people were Sikh, with their parchar bringing other people towards sikhi.

Panjab is irrelevant to sikhi. Veer ji, read gurbani, there is no place on this earth where akal purakh does not exist, meaning sikhi has no geographical boundary.

Fact of the matter is, if you continue to believe in Bhatra sikh, the you have to believe in all of the other caste based Sikhs. These so called castes of then preserved due to arrive within them. The only way to realise this falsehood is sikhi, the Amrit and the Khalsa.

Even if that was the case the fact of that matter is the vast majoirty of Bhatras became Sikhs in the Punjab area after converting to Sikhism by the Bhatras hence these people originated in Punjab not Sri Lanka. That is why there is nothing remotely south indian about Bhatras today. infact we are the opposite of South Indians in our culture We also do not have any south indian sounding names. but most of the Surenames in Bhats are native to Punjab not South India.

[JSinghnz]

Oi where did i mention i was a jatt? I am not a jatt for ur info! Nor have i promoted "castes" once, especially as i come frm a tribe which is not very numerous amongst sikhs. So take ur crybaby nonsense elsewhere.

Time to change your glasses. No one even mentioned you are a "jatt" or from any other backward caste here.

And we do not want you to cry about "tribe" here as I am pretty sure they would have their own site too

for tribals to rant.

[sikhiseeker]

Its nothing to do with 'choice'. "Like they say to an addict, you first have to admit there's a problem, then you will be able to resolve it." is sanctimonious crap no matter which way you look at it.

Are you a gyani ? Or do you just think you're a gyani ?

If neither, how does a gyani even come into this conversation ?

Hai hai baba....brother lol, were just literally on a next level tangent now. Shall we both just do our kirtan sohila and ardas for sarbhat da bhala?

Good idea or am I being to sanctimonious again?

I do wish I had enough gian to be a Giani though, it's been my dream since a kid. Hope to get there one day.

[StarStriker]

Time to change your glasses. No one even mentioned you are a "jatt" or from any other backward caste here.

And we do not want you to cry about "tribe" here as I am pretty sure they would have their own site too

for tribals to rant.

Tenu saaliya ki masla ya?

I dont need to change my specs, but i suggest u either gets specs or go therapy u annoyin individual.

Fact is sikhiseeker has already apologised to me, which i accepted, so wat is ur problem?

This is wat she wrote initially.

"Obviously caste supremacy is something sikhsangat.com and it's moderators deem to be fine, allowing jagsaw Singh to go on and on, and on, and on, and on and on.....please someone direct him to jattworld.com along with starstriker where they can gauge themselves on everything about their beloved caste".

Enu changi tarrah parrh, n understand wat is written, otherwise leave it geezer n spare us ur annoyin contributions.

[JSinghnz]

Tenu saaliya ki masla ya?

I dont need to change my specs, but i suggest u either gets specs or go therapy u annoyin individual.

Fact is sikhiseeker has already apologised to me, which i accepted, so wat is ur problem?

This is wat she wrote initially.

"Obviously caste supremacy is something sikhsangat.com and it's moderators deem to be fine, allowing jagsaw Singh to go on and on, and on, and on, and on and on.....please someone direct him to jattworld.com along with starstriker where they can gauge themselves on everything about their beloved caste".

Enu changi tarrah parrh, n understand wat is written, otherwise leave it geezer n spare us ur annoyin contributions.

I do not want to fall to your standard of gutter language. Just shows your upbring and how you talk to others in real life too.

[JRoudh]

I do not want to fall to your standard of gutter language. Just shows your upbring and how you talk to others in real life too.

Couldn't have said it better myself!

[sikhiseeker]

Even if that was the case the fact of that matter is the vast majoirty of Bhatras became Sikhs in the Punjab area after converting to Sikhism by the Bhatras hence these people originated in Punjab not Sri Lanka. That is why there is nothing remotely south indian about Bhatras today. infact we are the opposite of South Indians in our culture We also do not have any south indian sounding names. but most of the Surenames in Bhats are native to Punjab not South India.

WJKK WJKF

Veer ji, the original Bhat Movement brought many people to sikhi, who then joined this movement in travel through India.

Yes, when this mass of people reached Punjab they would of done the same parchar and brought people to sikhi there too, but the emphasis is on sikhi. Due to the movement being poets, people associated with this community of Sikhs would have been called bhatrai, but this is where manmatt then creates caste, not sikhi. This is where just as any other jaat, caste creeps in and caste based marriage occurs which in result, works against the foundations of sikhi and it's tennets. The tennets of which the original bhats were so moved by, they physically moved throughout India singing that parchar.

[JRoudh]

Starstriker your language towards Sikhseeker who is a female is bang out of order. Learn how to speak to fellow Sikh females.

[sikhiseeker]

Starstriker your language towards Sikhseeker who is a female is bang out of order. Learn how to speak to fellow Sikh females.

WJKK WJKF

Veer ji, I'm a Banda with 3 kids lol and me and star striker have made up.

[StarStriker]

I do not want to fall to your standard of gutter language. Just shows your upbring and how you talk to others in real life too.

Yaaaaawn, 'gurdssingh' has already exposed u, so pipe down mate. Fact is, u havnt acknowledged ur mistake, or even proven wat u wrote in the previous post. Tut tut.