Is Khalistan Needed

[TyrionLanister]

Majority of Punjabi Sikhs dont want Khalistan. Religion is used by crooked leader to hide behind their failures. Akali dal, BJP have habit of misusing religion. By the numbers, Akali BJP alliance is the worst state govt among BJP ruled states

(Maharahstra is doing very good under fadnavis, Jharkhand is seeing some changes . Rajasthan, MP have improved, Gujarat was always good, C'garh is fine despite naxal problem, Harayana is city state.) Punjab is run by the family.

BJP have no chance but to support akali. Akali are safest choice to handle any Khalistani separatism which are being stroked by some delusional Sikhs who are being propped up by Pakistani handlers!

Akali govt is big nautanki. I am still confused about this beadbi episode. Some say that It was stroked by AAP, Congress. Some blame Akali while agency are looking for Pak hand.

At present Modi is the only BJP leader after vajpaye who is extremely dedicated to motherland. He believes in India first. So there is no discrimination among any state. Bad law & order situation is affecting FDI in Punjab.

Punjab needs industries, jobs, modern cultivation technology, FDI, education, law & order, end of drugs culture. No religious govt can fix these problems. 2 % of Indian population is Sikhs but they are 14% in Indian military, 5+% in Foreign service, 7-8 % in bureaucracy.6-7% business and industries. why do we want to mix state with religion. We should learn from Israel which is a democratic secular country but promotes native religion. Similarly, we should only promote Indic religions in our country which are compatible with our values, Rise of Abraham faith especially Islam will turn India to Pakistan and Arab. No body is stopping Sikhs to propagate their faith across India. People of Bihar, UP will become more productive if they choose sikhism over hiinduism.

Terrorism in North east India is driven by christian groups: NSCN(K) while naxalites in forest region of jharkhand, orissa and chattisgarh are converted christian who follow communist ideology.

[jkvlondon]

Majority of Punjabi Sikhs dont want Khalistan. Religion is used by crooked leader to hide behind their failures. Akali dal, BJP have habit of misusing religion. By the numbers, Akali BJP alliance is the worst state govt among BJP ruled states

(Maharahstra is doing very good under fadnavis, Jharkhand is seeing some changes . Rajasthan, MP have improved, Gujarat was always good, C'garh is fine despite naxal problem, Harayana is city state.) Punjab is run by the family.

BJP have no chance but to support akali. Akali are safest choice to handle any Khalistani separatism which are being stroked by some delusional Sikhs who are being propped up by Pakistani handlers!

Akali govt is big nautanki. I am still confused about this beadbi episode. Some say that It was stroked by AAP, Congress. Some blame Akali while agency are looking for Pak hand.

At present Modi is the only BJP leader after vajpaye who is extremely dedicated to motherland. He believes in India first. So there is no discrimination among any state. Bad law & order situation is affecting FDI in Punjab.

Punjab needs industries, jobs, modern cultivation technology, FDI, education, law & order, end of drugs culture. No religious govt can fix these problems. 2 % of Indian population is Sikhs but they are 14% in Indian military, 5+% in Foreign service, 7-8 % in bureaucracy.6-7% business and industries. why do we want to mix state with religion. We should learn from Israel which is a democratic secular country but promotes native religion. Similarly, we should only promote Indic religions in our country which are compatible with our values, Rise of Abraham faith especially Islam will turn India to Pakistan and Arab. No body is stopping Sikhs to propagate their faith across India. People of Bihar, UP will become more productive if they choose sikhism over hiinduism.

Terrorism in North east India is driven by christian groups: NSCN(K) while naxalites in forest region of jharkhand, orissa and chattisgarh are converted christian who follow communist ideology.

well then Modi and RSS and BJP can't fix the problems of India or Punjab either by your statement, stop being delusional NO party apart from one of the people ,for the people, will serve the needs of the people

[GurburAkal]

I don't even think we are capable of leading ourselves yet. We need more educated Gursikhs to become leaders for the panth, who can make proper decisions and are able to challenge the government.

[TyrionLanister]

well then Modi and RSS and BJP can't fix the problems of India or Punjab either by your statement, stop being delusional NO party apart from one of the people ,for the people, will serve the needs of the people

I gave you examples of BJP/NDA ruled states who are doing better than Punjab. We can always replace govt and choose those who work for masses irrespective of their religious affiliation.

Hindu and Sikhs have converging Interests in India. Sikhs have more stakes in India than Hindus. Look at 2 % Sikhs representing India 10%. It's almost 4-5 times more than per unit population.

(2 % of Indian population is Sikhs but they are 14% in Indian military, 5+% in Foreign service, 7-8 % in bureaucracy.6-7% business and industries.)

We have enough educated leaders from Hindu and Sikh community who can work for welfare for our nation. Sadly, religious party like Akali have grabbed powers and BJP have to appease them as Akali always keep the pot boiling and there is paraonia for re-emergence of 1980's situation in Punjab, Sikh living abroad with slogans like Sikh 2020; Sikh for justice for working with Pakistan further support status quo in Punjab.

Sikh should understand that religious polarization in punjab means more votes for Akali. How does it solve the purpose??

in reality, Hindus and Sikhs have integrated. Rarely you can find a Hindu disrespecting Sikhism and contribution of sikh in Indian society. IF you ask an average Sikh in india then they say that they get more than fair deal in India than any other community. I have respect for Technocrat like ex PM Manmohan singh but he was puppet in hands of Sonia. It was so humiliating for us to have a honorable respectable PM controlled by a wicked lady.

Most Hindus Right wing on social media raised alarms at declining sikh population which shows the acceptability of Sikhism in minds and heart of India. Sikhs who live abroad despise India for not punishing those involved in Sikh massacre.

But we all have to understand the problems with Indian judicial system. The congressis own judiciary and parts of bureaucracy. Modi govt can rub his nose but he cant implicate any congressi leaders bcoz most of the proofs are obliterated.

Indian judiciary will end up relieving those rioters of their carnage. Such banana justice will be used by congress to say that they had no hand in 1984 massacre. Last thing is what we want those traitors to declare victory boz of loop holes in our archaic law.

Congressi like Jagdish tytler were christian converts. Most of hindus in congress are nameshake hindus. They have named us with Hindu taliban, Hindu terrorism but

they possess no guts to call the true Islamic terrorism as the one.

That's why we feel that Hindus and Sikhs should work together. We will benefit the most if we cleanse all dynasty from politics. Future politicians will come from the masses who will be technocrats, self made personalities.

[jkvlondon]

I gave you examples of BJP/NDA ruled states who are doing better than Punjab. We can always replace govt and choose those who work for masses irrespective of their religious affiliation.

Hindu and Sikhs have converging Interests in India. Sikhs have more stakes in India than Hindus. Look at 2 % Sikhs representing India 10%. It's almost 4-5 times more than per unit population.

(2 % of Indian population is Sikhs but they are 14% in Indian military, 5+% in Foreign service, 7-8 % in bureaucracy.6-7% business and industries.)

We have enough educated leaders from Hindu and Sikh community who can work for welfare for our nation. Sadly, religious party like Akali have grabbed powers and BJP have to appease them as Akali always keep the pot boiling and there is paraonia for re-emergence of 1980's situation in Punjab, Sikh living abroad with slogans like Sikh 2020; Sikh for justice for working with Pakistan further support status quo in Punjab.

Sikh should understand that religious polarization in punjab means more votes for Akali. How does it solve the purpose??

in reality, Hindus and Sikhs have integrated. Rarely you can find a Hindu disrespecting Sikhism and contribution of sikh in Indian society. IF you ask an average Sikh in india then they say that they get more than fair deal in India than any other community. I have respect for Technocrat like ex PM Manmohan singh but he was puppet in hands of Sonia. It was so humiliating for us to have a honorable respectable PM controlled by a wicked lady.

Most Hindus Right wing on social media raised alarms at declining sikh population which shows the acceptability of Sikhism in minds and heart of India. Sikhs who live abroad despise India for not punishing those involved in Sikh massacre.

But we all have to understand the problems with Indian judicial system. The congressis own judiciary and parts of bureaucracy. Modi govt can rub his nose but he cant implicate any congressi leaders bcoz most of the proofs are obliterated.

Indian judiciary will end up relieving those rioters of their carnage. Such banana justice will be used by congress to say that they had no hand in 1984 massacre. Last thing is what we want those traitors to declare victory boz of loop holes in our archaic law.

Congressi like Jagdish tytler were christian converts. Most of hindus in congress are nameshake hindus. They have named us with Hindu taliban, Hindu terrorism but

they possess no guts to call the true Islamic terrorism as the one.

That's why we feel that Hindus and Sikhs should work together. We will benefit the most if we cleanse all dynasty from politics. Future politicians will come from the masses who will be technocrats, self made personalities.

Modi self-made ? I think his rise has more to do with sponsorship from RSS, for work he has done for them spreading division and strife. The only party that can succeed in a genuine way , is one that addresses and cares for all of Indian society and does not play on faith lines to divide by hatred. Ordinary people want a good life with safety, food, shelter and respect minimum they don't want civil war, they don't care for fattening the wallets of the rulers when their children go hungry every night, they don't care for egoistic fashion paid out of taxes collected from them when they barely can provide clothes to keep the modesty of their girls intact. They don't care for the longwinded speeches they want action against felons, justice for victims doesn't matter who is from what strata of scoiety . Until that party can deliver all this India will suffer, languish in underdevelopment, and be ridiculed by the whole world.

[13Mirch]

Yes i know what democracy is but you do not

Democracy an anything run by humans cannot be perfect cause humans are imperfect

i dont remember the exact quote it was from churhill though im not his fan but he said democracy is the worst form of government exccept for all the others

What would you suggest as an alternative for government?

Naturally anything humans create or establish is imperfect. Advocating a periodic change or political evolution is much more beneficial. Churhill? As in Winston Churhill?

[TyrionLanister]

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/congress-anti-national-party-should-be-derecognised-for-encouraging-secessionists-sukhbir-badal/

Congress ‘anti-national’, party should be ‘derecognised’ for encouraging secessionists: Sukhbir Badal Badal alleged that under Rahul Gandhi's leadership Congress was trying to create the same environment in Punjab that it suffered during the years of militancy.

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By: PTI | New Delhi | Updated: November 21, 2015 5:05 pm

Punjab Deputy CM Sukhbir Badal addressing a press conference. (Source: Twitter/ANI)

Punjab Deputy Chief Minister Sukhbir Singh Badal on Saturday accused Congress of fomenting trouble in Punjab by encouraging secessionist forces.

Addressing a press conference, Badal alleged that Congress leaders shared stage with radical and separatist elements at a recent gathering in Amritsar, where demand for Khalistan was raked up.

Badal, who is the chief of Punjab’s ruling Shiromani Akali Dal (Badal), also met President Pranab Mukherjee and demanded that action should be taken against Congress and the party should be “derecognised”.

Read: Amarinder Singh rejects Sukhbir’s charges on Congress being ‘anti-national’

He alleged that under Rahul Gandhi’s leadership Congress was trying to create the same environment in Punjab that it suffered during the years of militancy.

He said that his government had also written to the Home Ministry regarding the developments in the state.

The role of Congress, he claimed, “had been exposed” as its leaders had attended the gathering in Amritsar on November 10 where “the major demand was for a separate state of Khalistan”.

“Congress is showing its true colours as a true anti-national party in Punjab. Groups which were demanding Khalistan held a rally in Amritsar, Congress leaders shared stage with them,” said Sukhbir Badal.

Referring to the ‘Sarbat Khalsa’ or Sikh religious congregation, he said they appointed the convict in Beant Singh assassination case as ‘jathedar’ or chief priest.

He alleged that videos on social media show Congress leaders directing separatists about what to say and that they have provided other support for the gathering.

Badal also claimed that one of the Congress leaders present Ramanjit Singh Sikki is known to be close to former CM and Congress leader Amarinder Singh. He said Congress leader Inderjit Singh Zira was also present.

“The Congress is trying to distance itself from the congregation. If they were not part of it, why have they taken no action against Congress leaders who were on stage and provided support,” Badal asked.

Rahul Gandhi, he further alleged, went to Punjab and encouraged radical elements at a time when Pakistan’s ISI is already on the lookout to foment trouble in the state and demanded action against the Congress.

The President, Badal told reporters, had assured him that the matter will be looked into.

At the press conference, Badal was asked that law and order is a state subject, so why a press conference in Delhi was needed.

He replied that the state government had acted and more arrests are on the way but added that there was a need to tell the nation about the “role Congress is playing”.

He was also asked about the demand of Punjab Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal about release of certain Sikh extremists from jail.

The Punjab Deputy Chief Minister replied that they had sought release of only those people who have served the sentences awarded to them as per law.

(With ANI inputs)

[mrggg123]

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/congress-anti-national-party-should-be-derecognised-for-encouraging-secessionists-sukhbir-badal/

Congress ‘anti-national’, party should be ‘derecognised’ for encouraging secessionists: Sukhbir Badal Badal alleged that under Rahul Gandhi's leadership Congress was trying to create the same environment in Punjab that it suffered during the years of militancy.

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By: PTI | New Delhi | Updated: November 21, 2015 5:05 pm

Punjab Deputy CM Sukhbir Badal addressing a press conference. (Source: Twitter/ANI)

Punjab Deputy Chief Minister Sukhbir Singh Badal on Saturday accused Congress of fomenting trouble in Punjab by encouraging secessionist forces.

Addressing a press conference, Badal alleged that Congress leaders shared stage with radical and separatist elements at a recent gathering in Amritsar, where demand for Khalistan was raked up.

Badal, who is the chief of Punjab’s ruling Shiromani Akali Dal (Badal), also met President Pranab Mukherjee and demanded that action should be taken against Congress and the party should be “derecognised”.

Read: Amarinder Singh rejects Sukhbir’s charges on Congress being ‘anti-national’

He alleged that under Rahul Gandhi’s leadership Congress was trying to create the same environment in Punjab that it suffered during the years of militancy.

He said that his government had also written to the Home Ministry regarding the developments in the state.

The role of Congress, he claimed, “had been exposed” as its leaders had attended the gathering in Amritsar on November 10 where “the major demand was for a separate state of Khalistan”.

“Congress is showing its true colours as a true anti-national party in Punjab. Groups which were demanding Khalistan held a rally in Amritsar, Congress leaders shared stage with them,” said Sukhbir Badal.

Referring to the ‘Sarbat Khalsa’ or Sikh religious congregation, he said they appointed the convict in Beant Singh assassination case as ‘jathedar’ or chief priest.

He alleged that videos on social media show Congress leaders directing separatists about what to say and that they have provided other support for the gathering.

Badal also claimed that one of the Congress leaders present Ramanjit Singh Sikki is known to be close to former CM and Congress leader Amarinder Singh. He said Congress leader Inderjit Singh Zira was also present.

“The Congress is trying to distance itself from the congregation. If they were not part of it, why have they taken no action against Congress leaders who were on stage and provided support,” Badal asked.

Rahul Gandhi, he further alleged, went to Punjab and encouraged radical elements at a time when Pakistan’s ISI is already on the lookout to foment trouble in the state and demanded action against the Congress.

The President, Badal told reporters, had assured him that the matter will be looked into.

At the press conference, Badal was asked that law and order is a state subject, so why a press conference in Delhi was needed.

He replied that the state government had acted and more arrests are on the way but added that there was a need to tell the nation about the “role Congress is playing”.

He was also asked about the demand of Punjab Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal about release of certain Sikh extremists from jail.

The Punjab Deputy Chief Minister replied that they had sought release of only those people who have served the sentences awarded to them as per law.

(With ANI inputs)

screw badal, khalistan zindabad.

[TyrionLanister]

screw badal, khalistan zindabad.

Rofl. Khalistan= Khali (Blank)+ space!

[mrggg123]

Rofl. Khalistan= Khali (Blank)+ space!

til the day i die u little apologist, india is going into dark ages and the world is watching, we dont need to live under caste rule.