Is happiness and contentment our natural state?

[jkvlondon]

On 8/21/2016 at 5:59 PM, MisterrSingh said:

All too often our people interpret the above in bold as material rewards; elevated social status, fruitful employment, peaceful and contented existence... MONEY, lol. The fact that there may be other less tangible rewards may as well as be voodoo to these folk.  

for those who haven't taken amrit they may experience the rewards that way ....collecting all the zeroes just waiting until kirpa when Guru ji gives meaning and places a  1 before them when they have given themselves  wholly and soully

[harsharan000]

On 21/8/2016 at 4:53 PM, MisterrSingh said:

Very true. 

Various religions refer to a state of human existence pre-Sin, i.e. Christianity and the Garden of Eden prior to Eve's temptation; Original Sin. And there's the Eastern faiths, including Sikhi, that refer to an era of ultimate Truth (Satjug), etc., so perhaps there was an age when we were not subject to - or at least had a firm grip on - what became the vices.

Brother,

the ultimate Truth is not Satyug, as Satyug also has and end, after that, the remaining 3 yugas come.

In Satyug, karmas, mind, maya  exist; in Sach Khand, none of these.

Maybe you wanted to say Sach Khand, then yes, that is the ultimate changeless plane /khand, level of consciousness, and there as the bani says: Sach Khand vaseh Nirankar.

So as Nirankar, Satnam, Wahiguru Akal Purukh is eternal, changeless, sizeless, thus is so only, His abode Sach Khand.

Rest is all paraphernalia.

 

Sat Sree Akal.

[Thanatos]

11 hours ago, harsharan000 said:

Brother,

the ultimate Truth is not Satyug, as Satyug also has and end, after that, the remaining 3 yugas come.

In Satyug, karmas, mind, maya  exist; in Sach Khand, none of these.

Maybe you wanted to say Sach Khand, then yes, that is the ultimate changeless plane /khand, level of consciousness, and there as the bani says: Sach Khand vaseh Nirankar.

So as Nirankar, Satnam, Wahiguru Akal Purukh is eternal, changeless, sizeless, thus is so only, His abode Sach Khand.

Rest is all paraphernalia.

 

Sat Sree Akal.

 

While the yugs also came and went. They also co-exist. For example in Satyug there was Kalyug (sin, bad influences) but it was extremely minor. Like wise in Kalyug, Satyug exists (in the form of Saints and true Gursikhs) but finding this place is extremely hard.

[harsharan000]

4 hours ago, Thanatos said:

 

While the yugs also came and went. They also co-exist. For example in Satyug there was Kalyug (sin, bad influences) but it was extremely minor. Like wise in Kalyug, Satyug exists (in the form of Saints and true Gursikhs) but finding this place is extremely hard.

 

The 4 yugas are like the 4 seasons : winter, spring, summer and autumn. These yugas are cyclical.

While the Truth you refer, manifested or "pargat" in Saints and Gursikhs, exist within each and everyone one of us, irrespective of any yugas ...

This Primal, Changeless, Eternal and Supreme Truth, namely Wahiguru Akal Purukh, exist within each one of us, and our Guru Sahiban, and Gursikhs, are a living example to us, of how to connect with Him within, and become one with Him, thus fulfill the purpose of our lives.

Sat Sree Akal.

[jkvlondon]

to become a true gurmukh is to step outside of: maya including the yugs to become akal i.e. timeless immortal the Khalsa was the end of the cycles of births , time and forms