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Why 60 Million Indians could not become Sikhs


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This is an extract FROM "SAACHI SAAKHI": I have cut it short but there’s much more detail if anyone is interested.

Dr Ambedkar (an untouchable) for those of you who don’t know wrote the constitution of India after it achieved independence.

"Around 1935-36, Dr. Ambedkar, the unchallenged leader of the 60 million untouchables in India, openly expressed the desire that all untouchables of India join Sikhism to rid themselves of the thousand of years of serfdom imposed by the caste-system. Hindu leaders like Dr. Munje, President of Hindu Mahasabha, and Pandit Malviya, the eminent Sanatanist Hindu leader were totally agreeable to this plan. Copies of Dr. Ambedkar?s correspondence with these Hindu leaders were regularly brought to the notice of Gandhi.

?After this, Dr. Ambedkar opened a direct dialogue with Sikh leaders to achieve his purpose, and this news spread throughout the country that the untouchables were on the verge of joining Sikhism. This is the time when foundation of Khalsa College, Bombay was laid so that it could function as the centre for the education of the untouchables of Southern India. At the time, even Maharaja of Patiala Bhupinder Singh offered to marry his sister in the family of Dr. Ambedkar to lend sense of pride to the untouchables joining Sikhism. But soon thereafter, such acute differences cropped up between Dr. Ambedkar and Akali leaders that Dr. Ambedkar and his followers became disenchanted with Sikhism and later joined Buddhism.

But by 60 million untouchables joining Sikhism the Akali Party would have lost its dominance and monopoly over the Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee (head of sikhi) and Sardar Baldev Singh would have

lost his Sikh representation in the Central Government.

When the Akali Party realised this problem then after deep consultation they unanimously decided to permanently block the entry of Dr. Ambedkar and his 60 million untouchable fellows.

These higher caste’s + politics are the cause of why sikhism has only 30 million followers world wide and not 90 million.

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Guest SaintSoldier
because providing 5 kakaars to 60 million was not possible.

Not amused by your sense of humor. This is a serious discussion. Because of our so-called leaders Brahmin influenced thinking, the Dalits were not accepted. Dr Ambedkar was a great person and would have been an asset to the Sikh koum. These leaders concern is not with the Sikh koum but with their votes...

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Saini Soldier wrote:
Because of our so-called leaders Brahmin influenced thinking

Most of the Akali leaders at that time were from "Jatt" & Khatri background.

During those time Arya Samaj influence on our leaders was full time high.. Thus our leaders were brainwashed by Racist hindu terrorist group.

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These higher caste’s + politics are the cause of why sikhism has only 30 million followers world wide and not 90 million.

There are a lot of Vanjaras, Lobanas and Sikligars who reside in parts of Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh who follow the teachings of Guru Nanak.

If the SGPC had the will they could bring these people into the Sikh fold but as usual the SGPC are only good for sitting in offices and eating barfi :wub: wasting the hundreds of crore that they receive in charava rather than doing anything worthwhile. The parcharaks the SGPC are about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

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I don’t think that if Ambedkar converted to Sikhism we would have seen ’60 million’ dalits becoming Sikhs. When Ambedkar decided to become a Buddhist, only a few million (less than 5 million) Dalits converted to Buddhism. So ‘60 million’ is a HUGE exaggeration. As for why he didn't convert to Sikhism, I think you should read Dr. Sangat Singh's 'the sikhs in history'.

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