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Jat Sikh discovers wife is Dalit, kills self days after marriage

He had allegedly taken the step after he came to know that the girl, whom he married a few days ago, believing that she was a Jat Sikh, turned out to be a Dalit.

Updated: May 31, 2017 11:57 IST
 
HT Correspondent
Hindustan Times, Sangrur
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Manpreet Singh

Manpreet Singh, 22, a resident of Khai village here, who had consumed a poisonous substance on Sunday, died on the same night. He had allegedly taken the step after he came to know that the girl, whom he married a few days ago, believing that she was a Jat Sikh, turned out to be a Dalit.

He wrote in his suicide note,“I am Manpreet Singh Brar. My matchmaker Gurtej Singh Baba arranged my match for marriage. I am a Jat boy and my father-in-law is also a Jat, but his wife is a Ramdasia… I was told that they (his wife and mother in-law) are also Jat.”

Manpreet’s family also alleged that matchmaker Gurtej had told before the marriage that the girl is from a poor family, but they are Jats and he also took Rs 45,000 for the role of a middleman.

“After the marriage, his wife spent two days with him and after that she went to her parents. When he had gone to his in-laws, he came to know that his wife is a Dalit instead of a Jat. He brought her to his home, but after some time he went to the farm and did not return to home. He consumed some poisonous substance” said, Piara Singh, the deceased brother-in-law.

Meanwhile, police have registered a case under the Section 306 (abetment of suicide) of the Indian Penal Code at Lehra police station.

“He might have committed suicide due to caste issue. We are investigating the matter and Gurtej Singh will be arrested soon,” said Jagbir Singh, station house officer (SHO), Lehra police station.

 

http://www.hindustantimes.com/punjab/jat-sikh-discovers-wife-is-dalit-kills-self-days-after-marriage/story-0HEATz2Sx59feWzU6TMI1L.html

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The curse of castism strikes again. They call themselves proud Sikhs yet they still hang on to their past brahmin hindu given caste system. The social illness continues....

Instead of breaking down this ancient unjust hindu brahminwad order, most Sikhs in punjab still strongly hold on to it. It should be a social taboo by now if they were upholding Sikh values and teachings but instead they make it the norm to be seeking a partner only in ones own caste and gossip and put down others who marry outside their jhath and boycott those who do.

In punjab and india as a whole there is currently an increasing crisis of men being unable to find female partners for marriage because of the skewed gender imbalance over years of female fetus abortions. So for any guy to even find a decent woman willing to marry him in punjab should be seen as a blessing never mind what jhath phaht they from.

The only time they should boycott someone is if they marry outside the Sikh religion and raise non-sikh offspring but no thats fine by them as long as they the same caste. If they both sikhs but ones of a different caste then the world has ended for the family and its a disaster for them...... madness

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39 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

At least he was honourable enough not to inflict any violence on his wife or her family. 

I strongly disagree, that's no honour at all its a complete disgrace for anyone to do that even thinking taking their own life is ok to restore the jhaht honour...besides suicide is a major sin within sikhi itself.

Also what kinda message is he sending? That its better to take your own life than be married to a fellow human being of the same faith but of a different anti-sikh brahminwad given caste.

Castism is why sikhistan/khalistan never happened and thus gave us genocides of 1947 and 1984 left our kaum trapped in indian union at the mercy of hindtuva dominance.

Castism is why brahminwad is able to divide Sikhs.

Castism is why girls in the west sleep around or run off marrying with white non-sikh guys because their family is thinks its better for them to marry a white guy who has no care, knowledge or love for Sikhi than to marry a Sikh of a different or "lower" caste.

 

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28 minutes ago, genie said:

I strongly disagree, that's no honour at all its a complete disgrace for anyone to do that even thinking taking their own life is ok to restore the jhaht honour...besides suicide is a major sin within sikhi itself.

Also what kinda message is he sending? That its better to take your own life than be married to a fellow human being of the same faith but of a different anti-sikh brahminwad given caste.

Castism is why sikhistan/khalistan never happened and thus gave us genocides of 1947 and 1984 left our kaum trapped in indian union at the mercy of hindtuva dominance.

Castism is why brahminwad is able to divide Sikhs.

Castism is why girls in the west sleep around or run off marrying with white non-sikh guys because their family is thinks its better for them to marry a white guy who has no care, knowledge or love for Sikhi than to marry a Sikh of a different or "lower" caste.

 

I agree with all the above, but if he was so completely devoid of perspective that he killed himself over being married to the "wrong" caste, then I don't find it hard to believe someone with a more volatile nature could've focused that rage and hopelessness onto his wife. It would've presented anti-Sikh elements with another justification to label us as no better than the other lot across the border who conduct themselves in barbaric ways when it comes to situations similar to these.

This man's suicide and its associated spiritual / religious ramifications are between him and God. That's nobody else's business. What we can be thankful for is that he was sensible enough to contain the situation, so that the ramifications of his decision affected nobody but himself. 

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I'm not a Jaat or a Dalit, but if they are both low-castes according to Brahminwaad, for those who believe in Brahminwaad, can someone explain to me why the Jaats hate the Dalits so much?

42 minutes ago, genie said:

I strongly disagree, that's no honour at all its a complete disgrace for anyone to do that even thinking taking their own life is ok to restore the jhaht honour...besides suicide is a major sin within sikhi itself.

Also what kinda message is he sending? That its better to take your own life than be married to a fellow human being of the same faith but of a different anti-sikh brahminwad given caste.

Castism is why sikhistan/khalistan never happened and thus gave us genocides of 1947 and 1984 left our kaum trapped in indian union at the mercy of hindtuva dominance.

Castism is why brahminwad is able to divide Sikhs.

Castism is why girls in the west sleep around or run off marrying with white non-sikh guys because their family is thinks its better for them to marry a white guy who has no care, knowledge or love for Sikhi than to marry a Sikh of a different or "lower" caste.

Goras don't have any caste, according to true Brahminwaad, that's lower than low-caste, these people have made a completely new way to discriminate people.

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16 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I'm not a Jaat or a Dalit, but if they are both low-castes according to Brahminwaad, for those who believe in Brahminwaad, can someone explain to me why the Jaats hate the Dalits so much?

The following video answers your question. Watch up to 1:03. 

Substitute 'class' for 'caste'. The philosophy is pretty much the same.

 

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What an <banned word filter activated>! Come on there are jatts marrying who-knows what in western countries just so they can get indefinite stay or citizenship.

And then this jatt man does this? Seriously? He doesn;t even have a turban on his head, and yet he is ashamed of marrying someone from a poor background and poor class?

What is a Ramdasia again?

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1 hour ago, ipledgeblue said:

What an <banned word filter activated>! Come on there are jatts marrying who-knows what in western countries just so they can get indefinite stay or citizenship.

And then this jatt man does this? Seriously? He doesn;t even have a turban on his head, and yet he is ashamed of marrying someone from a poor background and poor class?

What is a Ramdasia again?

True, plus I've learn't that alot of people who claim there some kinda "high caste" jatt are actually seen a farmer peasant labour low caste in the brahminwad order of things...just have to look at how haryanvi hindu jatts are treated by the treat of the other higher caste hindu's.

Many  of todays jatt's are unwittingly from dalit and other caste stock whose forefathers gave their surnames as from the jatt caste when they moved away from their towns/villages where people didn't know them back in the days or settled aboard in the west and other countries to get away from their "low caste" status.

Hence why approx 70% of Sikh population is Jatt when the actual truth is actual true racially pure jatt farming stock is far lower, most jatts of today are from fake jatt heritage. So this notion that there's some racial purity in the jatt caste and they have to maintain it, is nonsensical and too absurd to carry on.

I think ramdasia's are from the same caste as chamar ravidassia's but they follow Sikhism and do not hold bhagat ravidass as a Guru? They were from the hindu dalit chamar (labourer shoemaker/weaver) caste back in the days and convert to Sikhi during the times of Guru Ram Das Ji.

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1 minute ago, genie said:

True, plus I've learn't that alot of people who claim there some kinda "high caste" jatt are actually seen a farmer peasant labour low caste in the brahminwad order of things...just have to look at how haryanvi hindu jatts are treated by the treat of the other higher caste hindu's.

Many  of todays jatt's are unwittingly from dalit and other caste stock whose forefathers gave their surnames as from the jatt caste when they moved away from their towns/villages where people didn't know them back in the days or settled aboard in the west and other countries to get away from their "low caste" status.

Hence why approx 70% of Sikh population is Jatt when the actual truth is actual true racially pure jatt farming stock is far lorbme racial purity in the jatt caste and they have to maintain it, is nonsensical and too absurd to carry on.

As I am from jatt background myself, all I can say is that once jatt loses his turban, I don't know what he is still proud of? And I think everyone should wear turban if they complain about being looked at in a castist manner. If Gurus have given all sikhs freedom to wear turban yet people get a firanghi haircut like they are gulam and complain about being called low caste or whatever?!?!!

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1 hour ago, ipledgeblue said:

As I am from jatt background myself, all I can say is that once jatt loses his turban, I don't know what he is still proud of? And I think everyone should wear turban if they complain about being looked at in a castist manner. If Gurus have given all sikhs freedom to wear turban yet people get a firanghi haircut like they are gulam and complain about being called low caste or whatever?!?!!

Most Jatts aren't Sikh, they are mostly Hindus and Muslims.

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first off this guy was almost mentally sick to take his gift of a life over such a matter. shouldn't even have mattered what she was if she as a good woman. or he could've just divorced?? but i also agree with "MisterrSingh" that atleast he didn't inflict violence or end up killing the wife or her family. Which would actually have been a more probable reaction..generally speaking..

now I'm going to make a little controversial argument. the reason Jatts are sikh, muslim, and hindu is because its more of an ethnic group then a caste. now their is a general sense of pride in being jatt and not because they think they are a 'better caste', its more because of personality traits and that are common among them, and now don't get me wrong it is extremely wrong to demean other "castes" or any human being in general but technically Jatts are caste ambigious. for example even if you go to UP or haryana a jatt doesn't sit on the floor or something if in a brahmins house, as a shoodar would. someone said look at haryana but the "higher caste" are intimidated from jatts or jaats if anything. they might have made jokes on how they are hard headed or stubborn but no one really treats them a certain type of way.

i just felt like i had to say something because I'm jatt and its like the post singles Jatts out for causing all the caste problems in punjab or something. my last name is legally singh and i don't use a jatt last name or anything but i still had to say something because everyone is not like the individual in the article. everyones getting married to everyone these days. you can't take this case from a pind and use it as a common occurrence 

with that being said. i strongly believe that marriage shouldn't not happen just because someone is jatt or bhaapa or tarkhan. only thing that should matter is the partner is sikh or not. 

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Thing I don't get why did he pay a vechola so much money ??? surely there is there is the auntie network in full force 

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Instead of killing himself, what was the problem with getting a divorce instead? Now you have a widow, who's probably confused.

6 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

The following video answers your question. Watch up to 1:03. 

Substitute 'class' for 'caste'. The philosophy is pretty much the same.

 

but Brahmins and Khatris are even higher than Jaats, and I've yet to see any Jatt, (of any religion), bowing to any Brahmins or Khatris for any reason, (the light of Vaheguru, Guru Sahib, doesn't count).

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Whether jats bow to Khatris or Brahmins or not is utterly irrelevant. The jats and "jat sikhs" of Punjab have officially been declared "backward class" which was one of their demands in order to gain access to government jobs in the reservation categories. Regardless of what jats think of themselves, and they certainly think a lot of themselves, the jats are shudra as per the caste system. 

In west London, the jats are prepared to marry anyone and anything to get the infamous "laal passport". 

Sikhs go around telling themselves and others "saadi qaum vakhri" - in what way is your quam vakhri? You all follow the caste system - just like the very people you despise so much! In fact, more so than them - oh the irony. So-called separate nation indeed. Keep deluding yourselves.

This man was clearly deluded if indeed it was the case that caste was a prime factor. What a waste of a life over utter nonsensical non-sikh belief systems. Whether jats are a caste, ethnic group or a race is irrelevant. The Guru's were clear - recognise the human race as one. 

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