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Why were the leaders of and followers of taksaal always holding a shastar in their hands? Sant kartar Singh Ji sant Jarnail Singh Ji sant gurbachan Singh Ji all had shastar in their hands... why is this? Is it part of some taksaali rehat? It isn't specified in their rehat for them to be holding one all the time and yet they've all done it?

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On 6/5/2018 at 10:24 PM, Guest Taksaali singhs said:

Why were the leaders of and followers of taksaal always holding a shastar in their hands? Sant kartar Singh Ji sant Jarnail Singh Ji sant gurbachan Singh Ji all had shastar in their hands... why is this? Is it part of some taksaali rehat? It isn't specified in their rehat for them to be holding one all the time and yet they've all done it?

because all gursikhs are supposed to be shastardhari and ready for any sewa at any moment, look at their character they were outspoken , fearless and held their word's honour , were the panth's ultimate sewaks . whereas I cannot remember seeing Harnam SIngh in a single photo holding any form of shastar ...

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39 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

whereas I cannot remember seeing Harnam SIngh in a single photo holding any form of shastar

there are 3 of harnam singh penji (this was not sarcastic btw just posting incase you hadn't seen any) but i dont want to get into talking about him because that's a whole other topic

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as far sants go - would it not have hindered their sewa on a practical level? how can you wash pande or make roti etc with a huge shastar in your hand im sure it would hinder your sewa on a practical level? i understand they could out them in gathras but seldom were taksaali singhs carrying gatras for their handheld shastars. they were almost alwyas holding them in their hands and it would be disrespectful to put them on the floor so how would they do sewa properly if they cant put them in gatras as well?

heres a few pictures of the sants with their shastar in their hands and clear signs of no 2ndary gatra

i am in no way sayin that they should not do this because i wanna do it too but i just cant get my head round how on earth they would sewa with such huge shastar when it's clearly gonna be held in your hand the whole time

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Carrying a shastar in taksal has only been started since the time of sant gurbachan singh. Before that, the taksal jathedar did no carry shastar other than their gatrey vali kirpan(baba deep singh and baba gurbaksh singh were also jathedars of tarna dal, hence why they carried it). The taksal is actually a branch of nirmaley but after sant sundar singh, sant gurbachan singh became jathedar, but before becoming jathedar sant gurbachan singh was actually a nihang. He took amrit and stayed in budha dal. After becoming jathedar he kept his budha dal roots and carried shastar, tied a blue dumala etc.

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1 hour ago, Singh123456777 said:

Carrying a shastar in taksal has only been started since the time of sant gurbachan singh. Before that, the taksal jathedar did no carry shastar other than their gatrey vali kirpan(baba deep singh and baba gurbaksh singh were also jathedars of tarna dal, hence why they carried it). The taksal is actually a branch of nirmaley but after sant sundar singh, sant gurbachan singh became jathedar, but before becoming jathedar sant gurbachan singh was actually a nihang. He took amrit and stayed in budha dal. After becoming jathedar he kept his budha dal roots and carried shastar, tied a blue dumala etc.

isn't rehit of two kirpans also part of nihang rehit or was it general rehit for purataan khalsa ?

1 hour ago, Singh123456777 said:

He does carry shastar.

apart from kirpan what does he carry veer ji?

 

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57 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:
1 hour ago, Singh123456777 said:

 

isn't rehit of two kirpans also part of nihang rehit or was it general rehit for purataan khalsa ?

Rehit was for panj shastar. In the panj shastar there is kirpan, teer kaman, katar, barsha and gun

59 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

apart from kirpan what does he carry veer ji?

He carrys a 3 footi as well sometimes a pistol

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as far sants go - would it not have hindered their sewa on a practical level? how can you wash pande or make roti etc with a huge shastar in your hand im sure it would hinder your sewa on a practical level? i understand they could out them in gathras but seldom were taksaali singhs carrying gatras for their handheld shastars. they were almost alwyas holding them in their hands and it would be disrespectful to put them on the floor so how would they do sewa properly if they cant put them in gatras as well?

 i am in no way sayin that they should not do this because i wanna do it too but i just cant get my head round how on earth they would sewa with such huge shastar when it's clearly gonna be held in your hand the whole time

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I think there is some serious logic issue here. The next time, you might be like that how do they hold the das granthi gutka/ panj granthi gutka. It is simple, you place your shastar at a clean and high place, or hand it to a singh, or simply leave it in your house/room when you know you are going to do sewa. 

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