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Hello,

I am 21, since i was 15 my life has gone downhill. I am not a baptised Sikh. I have a rare skin disease which has left my back and other parts of my body heavily scarred and difficult to even look at. I broke my leg months before my GCSE exams and was bed ridden for months, even now my knee is not completely fine. I have OCD (not the fake ocd like you see in social media) where I have horrible intrusive thoughts 24/7 and I find it difficult to even do prayers. I have done prayers for the past year every day in the morning. I used to recite chaupai sahib but now can only listen as my intrusive thoughts say bad things about the Guru and Waheguru so I'm too ashamed to recite it, I also try to say thanks and ask for help from the Guru and Waheguru and I do Naam Simran and Mool Mantar. Things just keep getting worse. My 'manhood' is also below average. Due to all of these things adding up I've put on a lot of weight as I can't motivate myself to do anything and I feel so cursed.  I cry most days and constantly think of suicide. I have tried asking for help on other forums but they all think I am a troll which just pushes me closer to ending it all. I will never be able to enjoy my life and do things a normal man would. things keep getting worse for me. I have been to Gurdwara's in India and have asked for help from the Guru and Sikh Saints. Nothing is helping. If anyone can explain why this is happening and the best way to rid myself of most of this I would be greatful. I know to be a Sikh you must accept Waheguru's decisions but I find it difficult as my life is falling apart.

Please someone help. 

 

WJKK WJKF

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Guest Gupat

Everyone has thier own problems in life.

Try to focus on your SOUL. Your soul is all powerful, perfect, peaceful, without pain or suffering, positive energy. When you focus on soul you will get strength to do anything.

Imagine Guru Arjan Dev Ji sitting on hot plate with boiling sand being poured over them, the power to endure came through Soul/meditation

Do good sangat too, your local gurdwara or wherever you can find it

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Your still very young, your 21! still got a long way to go bro. concentrate on your weight, don't let yourself go. the way we look on the outside has a big impact on our mind, so try to stay healthy and fit. if you don't want to go gym buy a skipping rope and start skipping in your garden, you will feel good about yourself and results will start showing fast. don't let yourself go. try to see the positive in everything, if we only concentrate on the negative then our life becomes negative but if we try to see the positive in everything then everything starts appearing positive. smiling is important too! and keep faith in guru ji, share your feelings, your needs and wants with guru ji share your sadness and happiness with guru ji, involve guru ji in your day to day life.  remember you are precious to guru ji, he chose you to be born into his panth! from all the billions of people in the world guru ji chose you to be part of his family, thats why you are a sikh today.  skin conditions are common, i myself have eczema near my knee and that area of my leg has gone darker. try to accept your flaws rather than battling with them, once you accept your flaws then what is there for you to worry about? nothing 

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On 8/2/2018 at 4:21 PM, Guest whats the point said:

Hello,

I am 21, since i was 15 my life has gone downhill. I am not a baptised Sikh. I have a rare skin disease which has left my back and other parts of my body heavily scarred and difficult to even look at. I broke my leg months before my GCSE exams and was bed ridden for months, even now my knee is not completely fine. I have OCD (not the fake ocd like you see in social media) where I have horrible intrusive thoughts 24/7 and I find it difficult to even do prayers. I have done prayers for the past year every day in the morning. I used to recite chaupai sahib but now can only listen as my intrusive thoughts say bad things about the Guru and Waheguru so I'm too ashamed to recite it, I also try to say thanks and ask for help from the Guru and Waheguru and I do Naam Simran and Mool Mantar. Things just keep getting worse. My 'manhood' is also below average. Due to all of these things adding up I've put on a lot of weight as I can't motivate myself to do anything and I feel so cursed.  I cry most days and constantly think of suicide. I have tried asking for help on other forums but they all think I am a troll which just pushes me closer to ending it all. I will never be able to enjoy my life and do things a normal man would. things keep getting worse for me. I have been to Gurdwara's in India and have asked for help from the Guru and Sikh Saints. Nothing is helping. If anyone can explain why this is happening and the best way to rid myself of most of this I would be greatful. I know to be a Sikh you must accept Waheguru's decisions but I find it difficult as my life is falling apart.

Please someone help. 

 

WJKK WJKF

 

 

 

 

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43 minutes ago, lostconfussedsingh said:

I am going through the same as i have got ptsd ocd depression. Since reading this thread title i i am not gonna lie that i have been watching more suicide death vids now. 

 

But going back to the original poster of the thread you need to see your dr as you need to be referred to a psychiatrist who can give you antidepressants as i am on them since they hear the suicide word they will jump as its the only way for them to help you as doctors are really lazy. Hopefully you will get put onto counselling or other ways to deal with your problems. 

 

I have had these feelings since i was 17 and i wish i told my dr about it back then but its better to be late than never. 

 

From my experince the best is to see a psychiatrist and the dr gp as from what i have seen all cbt, psychologists, counsellors, therpists are pure 100% as they just talk and talk like a radio. You will need medication to help your brain chemicals so its best to see a psychiatrist. Just because antidepressants have a bad reputation doesn't mean they don't work.   

Fateh ji, definitely having ptsd, ocd, and depression will bring about tough challenges in your life. Going to a doctor to get antidepressants may help a lot or alittle, but turning to Guru Sahib in difficult times is really crucial while fighting through the mental and health issues you are currently facing. Try to avoid watching suicidal videos as much as possible because your mind will be attached and influenced on what you see. Try to take some time to listen to gurbani in a quiet place alone or even take a trip to gurdwara to partake in seva. Trust me most Sikh teenagers go through depression and other issues that affect them mentally wise too. On top of that, you do have ptsd and ocd so your personal struggles are very detrimental to your mental health. Keep the faith and stay strong, I truly hope you overcome these daily struggles. We have to come strong and tackle these issues with gurbani and seva alongside with medications given to us by doctors

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Seeing your reference to pure OCD (Intrusive thoughts) reminded me of this article OP https://www.theschooloflife.com/thebookoflife/pure-ocd-and-intrusive-thoughts/

It's a truly horrific condition...but many, many people do get better. Don't be ashamed of these thoughts, accept them and, by doing good things in your life (whether helping others or getting yourself in better physical or spiritual condition), you will start feeling better.

Best wishes

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One step at a time. Don't overwhelm yourself by mentally cycling through the cacophony of problems in your life and making yourself feel hopelessly helpless. Firstly, tackle the short-term issues over which you can exert your full control, namely your weight AND simultaneously introduce a gentle routine of centring yourself either through a light routine of prayer or meditation. The weight gain is an unnecessary burden you've placed on yourself albeit one that is quite easy to succumb to when we're wallowing in the blues.

Increase your water intake; construct a daily routine that isn't unfeasible to adhere to at first, and generally be positive. Nothing or nobody is going to take away your pain on your behalf. There is no magic spell that will heal you overnight. But through the accumulation of concerted positive acts over the course of weeks and months, the darkness will begin to subside.

Honestly, get rid of the weight, bro. It's totally nonsensical to labour under such an unnecessary physical and mental burden. Once you've eliminated that particular issue, then you can focus on the deeper long-term problems. By then you'll have developed at least a vague sense of satisfaction and pride at having instigated and overcome one moderately major issue that was getting you down. Make the most of the remaining warm weather and sweat out your "demons!"

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Don't feel alone, brother - we all have intrusive thoughts but not everyone admits to it, so don't feel ashamed or hopeless....at least you've had the courage to say it.

All of us know how difficult the mind is to control...it can torment, cause everyday to be a battle and make life a misery at times - unfortunately the more we resist, the stronger the thoughts...but we can help ourselves.

Found some similar threads...everyone responds to potential solutions differently so you might find something that helps you.

https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/62920-severe-ocd-bad-unwanted-thoughts/&

https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/67642-strange-questionlooking-for-answers-serious/&

https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/73319-i-really-need-your-advice/&

https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/77115-i-think-i-have-ocd-and-i-need-the-sangats-advice/&

https://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/81530--/&

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On 8/2/2018 at 6:21 PM, Guest whats the point said:

 

 

 

NHello,

I am 21, since i was 15 my life has gone downhill. I am not a baptised Sikh. I have a rare skin disease which has left my back and other parts of my body heavily scarred and difficult to even look at. I broke my leg months before my GCSE exams and was bed ridden for months, even now my knee is not completely fine. I have OCD (not the fake ocd like you see in social media) where I have horrible intrusive thoughts 24/7 and I find it difficult to even do prayers. I have done prayers for the past year every day in the morning. I used to recite chaupai sahib but now can only listen as my intrusive thoughts say bad things about the Guru and Waheguru so I'm too ashamed to recite it, I also try to say thanks and ask for help from the Guru and Waheguru and I do Naam Simran and Mool Mantar. Things just keep getting worse. My 'manhood' is also below average. Due to all of these things adding up I've put on a lot of weight as I can't motivate myself to do anything and I feel so cursed.  I cry most days and constantly think of suicide. I have tried asking for help on other forums but they all think I am a troll which just pushes me closer to ending it all. I will never be able to enjoy my life and do things a normal man would. things keep getting worse for me. I have been to Gurdwara's in India and have asked for help from the Guru and Sikh Saints. Nothing is helping. If anyone can explain why this is happening and the best way to rid myself of most of this I would be greatful. I know to be a Sikh you must accept Waheguru's decisions but I find it difficult as my life is falling apart.

Please someone help. 

 

WJKK WJKF

You need to see a counseller. Period. 

 

Add your spiritually to this. 

 

But SEE A COUNSELLER ASAP. 

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Author: KulbirSingh Date: 10-17-01 11:28
To answer this question we first need to understand how the system of karma works. There is three kind of karma (karams)
 1) The actions that we are currently.
2) The actions we did previously but we have
those karma yet.
3) The actions that we did previously and we
to suffer those in this life.
not suffered the consequences of
have been ordained by Vaheguru
Let us take an example of a bank account. Say prior to your birth in this life, you had total of 100 karma outstanding i.e. you haven't suffered consequence of 100 karma yet. At that point assume that Vaheguru ordained that since 100 karma are impossible to payoff in one lifetime, he decrees that you have to reap the fruits of 25 karma out of 100 karma.
The 25 karma that have been written on your forehead for this life cannot be changed and the gurbani pankitis like "Lekh naa matayee hay Sakhi, jo likhiya Kartaar" refer to these kind of karma (called Pralabhadh Karma).
The 75 karma outstanding and that have not been decreed by Vaheguru, are called Sanchit Karma and these karma are the first ones to burn when we do naam abhyaas. Pankitis like "Gur kaa shabad kaatay kot karam", (The shabad of Guru destroys tens of millions karma) pertain to these kind of karma.
The Pralabadh Karma (25 karma) cannot be erased but the effect of those karma can be minimized through baani. There are many saakhis to prove this. One of the saakhis is where Sooli (death by hanging) was changed to just a sool (small cut in foot) because of sangat of Guru Nanak Dev jee.
Based on our Pralabhad Karma (25 karma) we are put in situations and our reaction in those situations make up for our vartamaan karma i.e. the karma or actions that will determine our future. For example, based on our Pralabadh karma (25 karma) say you become poor and have lot of debt. One is poor because of his or her karma but if because of the situation arising from
Pralabadh karma, we start stealing or do other kind of sinful karma, will be building bad karma. We don't have any control over Pralabadh but we have freewill on how we are going to react in this situation.
then we karma
People talk about kismat, taqdeer or bhaag. Kismat, taqdeer of bhaag
nothing but our past karma. Our present condition is the direct reflection of our past karma. If one is rich, one is because of good karma in the past but most of the times, rich people end up in hell because where they become rich or king because of good karma, there they also commit a lot of sin when they become king or are at other places of authority. These bad karma done in the intoxication of authority or money leads them to hell. Our Tadbeer (present karma) shape our future just as our past karma shaped our present. In reality all that we have is present. Past is a dream and future is also a dream. The past was enjoyed or suffered as present and the future will be enjoyed or suffered by us as present So really all that exists is this moment of present. Everything else is now a dream.
Coming back to your question of suicide, say you are committing suicide because you have too much debt or you have been humiliated or raped. According to your karma you were supposed to suffer the aftermath of being
is

under debt, leading post-rape traumatic life or leading a post-humiliation period of life. If you beat your karma and commit suicide, you did not complete the cycle of your karma. This way you will have to go through the whole thing over again i.e. you will be raped or humiliated or whatever over again. On top of this you will incur the very bad karma of ending your life i.e. depriving yourself of salvation and insulting the gift of Vaheguru i.e. human body. On top of this you would be mocked on in dargah. They are all going to make fun of you and how you ended your life based on false suffering because everything in the world is fake. Such person will have hard time getting human form of life again.
My advice to you is to do more naam and baani in this time. There is nothing that cannot be resolved by the power of naam and gurbani. If you have grave problem, I suggest you go to next amrit sinchaar program and plead for help. They will do ardaas for you (if they will) and then there is nothing in the world that can stop your chardi kala.
I suggest you first speak to chardi kala walay 5 gurmukh elders in your community and then take the next step. One thing is for sure. Suicide is not a solution to anything. You will have to suffer everything all over again if you do so.
Gurmat is great and I am lowly person with lowly intelligence. It is quite possible that my writing up there contains serious misstatements about gurmat. Please let me know.
Daas,
Kulbir Singh

 

 

 

 

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Guest jigsaw_puzzled_singh
21 hours ago, harsharan000 said:

 

 

Harsharan, I know you mean well but in my opinion there is nothing more depressing and indeed anger-inducing then these generic 'life motivation' memes and videos.

To the OP I say this:  Things are good. You're good. You're beautiful. You're life is good and it will get even better. You have arms. You have legs. You have a roof over your head. You have food. You have a loving family. You can see the beautiful flowers and you can hear the beautiful birds. And, most importantly you have us....your friends. You will still get married and have children (size is completely irrelevant). You're just not seeing it but there is an aura of joy and happiness all around you. Stop looking for little negatives and start looking for that joy. It's already there and all around you. You are who you are and I for one like it. I like the honesty that you have. I like the empathy and feelings that you have. all the makings of one of the truly good people. I like you a lot and so do most others. Now it's just down to you to start liking yourself. We like you...you should like you too.

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VJKK VJKF

Do something that you truly love. For me, my passion is music and Vaheguru has given me the ability to sing but I am too scared to tell anyone about it lol. If you don't know what you love then explore different activities. Everyone has a talent you just need to find it. Spend more time with people you enjoy being around, people that make you laugh. This may sound silly but it works watch funny films Kevin Hart etc. If you put effort to enjoy life, life will give you joy back. Try to do paath and make your relationship with Vaheguru stronger. Regardless of your intrusive thoughts carry on praying. Vaheguru  will eradicate them for you.

VJKK VJKF

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Hi

 

ADMIN and MODS, do you not know any professional psychiatrists you could refer these people to? You get so many suicide posts and threads, is this not a worry to you at all?

Surely if you have any compassion or human decency, you would refer these people to professionals?

You need to start taking these posts seriously, there's no point in glorifying posts like the ones in the what's happening sections when there are people here who need Actual Help. 

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