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Dear intrigued veer

I hv a question.

Bhai Pheru was one of the 6 bakhshishiyan of the udasi order known as sangat sahibas.

History as well as kalgidhar chamatkaar says Guru Sahib tied His half turban on bhai Pheru's head.

It means bhai pheru ji must be wearing a small dastaar on his head on top of which Guru Sahib tied His half turban.

Nihang Sher Singh ji and many present udasis say that all their saints used to wear seli topi.

What do u make of this?

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5 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Dear intrigued veer

I hv a question.

Bhai Pheru was one of the 6 bakhshishiyan of the udasi order known as sangat sahibas.

History as well as kalgidhar chamatkaar says Guru Sahib tied His half turban on bhai Pheru's head.

It means bhai pheru ji must be wearing a small dastaar on his head on top of which Guru Sahib tied His half turban.

Nihang Sher Singh ji and many present udasis say that all their saints used to wear seli topi.

What do u make of this?

Perhaps not all the udasi saints have worn seli topi. What is more likely is that as time went on and udasis separated themselves from Sikhi, it became more common for them to wear the seli topi and adopt the garb of a sadhu.

 

Those who followed the guru would have worn the dastaar

 

We can see at what time udasis began separating from the panth by looking at literature and the paintings of different time periods.

 

For example, this is a mural in Akal takht showing Siri Chand with matted hair and earrings:

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Any idea when this painting was created? Looks to me to be around 19 century art...

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45 minutes ago, intrigued said:

Those who followed the guru would have worn the dastaar

I totally agree.

Gursikhs wore dastaar and all 10 Guru Sahibaan were Kings and wore dastaar.

Nihang Sher Singh is a great sikh and preacher but his views on seli topi that u posted r terrible.

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2 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Dear intrigued veer

I hv a question.

Bhai Pheru was one of the 6 bakhshishiyan of the udasi order known as sangat sahibas.

History as well as kalgidhar chamatkaar says Guru Sahib tied His half turban on bhai Pheru's head.

It means bhai pheru ji must be wearing a small dastaar on his head on top of which Guru Sahib tied His half turban.

Nihang Sher Singh ji and many present udasis say that all their saints used to wear seli topi.

What do u make of this?

ive seen recent article discussing more and more about udasis

baba sri chand ji promoted the chola and dastar of his gurupita, dhan sri guru nanak dev paatshah 

agree with intrigued, seli topic likely became a development after the era of dehdhari prakash of Guru Sahiban 

perhaps giani sher singh did not elaborate on the chronoloy of events because by 19th century this might have been the development

an interesting question that inspires another I am not sure whether to post here or in a different forum

but any historical reference to nirmalas adorning white bana in 18th century as brahm gyani sant baba gurbachan singh ji bhindranwale have said and many others agree  

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20 minutes ago, NaamTiharoJoJape said:

ive seen recent article discussing more and more about udasis

baba sri chand ji promoted the chola and dastar of his gurupita, dhan sri guru nanak dev paatshah 

agree with intrigued, seli topic likely became a development after the era of dehdhari prakash of Guru Sahiban 

perhaps giani sher singh did not elaborate on the chronoloy of events because by 19th century this might have been the development

an interesting question that inspires another I am not sure whether to post here or in a different forum

but any historical reference to nirmalas adorning white bana in 18th century as brahm gyani sant baba gurbachan singh ji bhindranwale have said and many others agree  

I will take the word of Sant ji. He had high avastha and beant Gyan.

I would like to see the good sikh minded udasis wear white too.

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37 minutes ago, NaamTiharoJoJape said:

perhaps giani sher singh did not elaborate on the chronoloy of events because by 19th century this might have been the development

https://kam1825.podbean.com/

Sher Singh ji is saying that first 5 Guru Sahibaan wore seli topi and Sikhs of Guru Hargobind Sahib also wore seli topi.

Terrible views from an otherwise excellent parcharak.

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On 5/13/2021 at 5:29 PM, shastarSingh said:

Dear intrigued veer

I hv a question.

Bhai Pheru was one of the 6 bakhshishiyan of the udasi order known as sangat sahibas.

History as well as kalgidhar chamatkaar says Guru Sahib tied His half turban on bhai Pheru's head.

It means bhai pheru ji must be wearing a small dastaar on his head on top of which Guru Sahib tied His half turban.

Nihang Sher Singh ji and many present udasis say that all their saints used to wear seli topi.

What do u make of this?

Bhai Mihan ji was also one of the 6 bakhshishiyan of the udasi order and history says he wore a dastaar.

https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Guru_Tegh_Bahadhur_And_Bhai_Mihan

One day as he was on the point of depositing a pitcher of water which he had brought, his cushion and turban fell

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History also says that Guru Tegh Bahadur ji tied His half turban on the head of bhai mihan which shows bhai mihan used to wear a dastaar and not seli topi. It also proves that Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib used to wear double dastaar.

https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Mihan_Sahibs

The Guru gave him half his own turban and the title of Mihan Sahib, and also returned his drum. The mahant of the sect still wears half a turban and his followers are also called Bakhshish sadhus from Bakhsh (the gift of apostleship). They have a dera at Patiala.

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