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Good debate When the Hindu Sadhu speaks, I notice a lot of beep beep sounds. Does that mean he is swearing? The Singh did a good job. The Sadhu is the kind of people Panthic Singhs are dealing with in Punjab. They openly say they are glad 84 ghalugara happened. And I would be interested to know where he got the 35K Hindu death figure. That is a shameless lie that is being spread in just the last few years.

Something to make you smile. So cute and adorable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9KozcA-_V4#t=81

Fair point regarding risk of hindu extremist using this term, I may not necessarily agree with full ban of this term as one has to look at various context such as condemnation etc why it's used but I understand fully why this term had to be banned from forum by looking at the overall picture.

veer ji you cannot replicate sikh raags properly on the harmonium for instance Shri raag which is one of the most used cannot be correct because the re note is incorrect thus raag is not correct thus naad of shabad is destroyed . Naad guru and Shabad guru make the true kirtan for us ...naad creates the emotion which enhances the pakard of the shabad into your hirda. listen to bhai Avtar Singh ji dhann so raag sorangeh on www.gurmatveechar.com volume 1 ...and see how different it makes you feel compared to aam kirtania vaaja kirtan

I know brother they want us to lie down and die quietly while they steal from us , tell us our Gurus were the lowest criminals thats why they died , they want steal our children's futures and self-confidence ... the English knew that Dasam Granth is were our strength lies thats why they tried to reduce our nitnem from 5 to two to create kinthu pranthu over Dasam Granths legitimacy... and we are still fool enough to fall for all that . My wish is that EVERY gurudwara worldwide start putting jor onto Dasam bani , doing Jaap sahib japs , Chaupai japs, even Chandi di // japs, camps to teach/ do katha vichar on Dasam Bani. We need fauladi sikhs to become Khalsa ...

I used to think it was Khalistanis too. But they have informed me it means one who is intolerant rather then Khalistani. And Nihangs, Nirmalas, Udasins have outdone anyone in Khalibani activity as they define this term. I am still doing research into the Khalibani activity of Nihangs, Nirmalas and Udasins. The more you dig deeper into it the more you get shocked at their violent Khalibani activity that would probably even make the most hardcore Taliban/ISIS terrorists cringe in fear.

you can learn via youtube ...try Satnam singh khalsa channel Manmohan SIngh channel they show shabad on the keyboard then demonstrate it ... hope this helps

NANGS is the term you are looking for nakhali nihangs are Nangs e.g. Nidhar Singh whose wonderful works include stating that we sikhs are part of sanathan dharam i.e. Hindu dharam

You should really read the sikh history. Perhaps you are unparr, I suggest you ask someone else to read it for you. It is morons like you that give a bad reputation to the great sikh faith. You are going to burn in hell you know that don't you? Are you saying that no girl would look at you with a turban? You just shock me! Perhaps it wasn't your turban that was keeping them away it was your unparrtta and paindooness. I wonder if your girl as you claim you have managed to find is as stupid and rubbish as yourself? They do say like attracts like don't they? Oh, I forgot, you are unparr so you won't really understand what that means! I hope you don't show your stupid face to me ever with or without a turban!! You come across as a shallow pathetic individual who is incapable, inconfident, insecure and insufficiently educated to stand by his sikhi asools!!!!!!!!! People like you are the daag on our turbans!

Saharanpur is in the NW part of UP. In olden times it was known as Rohilkhand. The Muslims of this area are the descendants of Rohillas who acted as the 5th column during Abdali's invasion in India during the battle of Panipat. When Sikh misls ruled over Punjab, they also began to carry out raids in Rohilkhand and repeatedly pounded these Rohillas like no one else could have. Saharanpur was under the Shahid Misl before the British took it under their control During Maharaja Ranjit Singh's era, a fanatic from Rohilkhand named Syed Ahmad Barelvi and his followers which included Shah Ismail who was the grandson of a great Islamic scholar Shah WalliUllah (who had invited Abdali to invade India to restore Islamic rule) came to NW frontier to incite the Pathans of Yusafzai tribe to conduct a Jihad against the Sikhs, their plan was the overthrow Sikh rule and replace it with Islamic rule. These guys were heavily influenced by Wahabis of Najd when they had gone to Arabia for a Hajj. For a while they had implemented strict Sharia Law in Peshawar and had even destroyed Sufi Dargas. They were like the ISIS/Taliban of that era. But they would never fight the Sikhs in a open battle. They would always run away when Sikhs would come. Eventually the Sikhs intercepted them at Balakot where they met their doom. These descendants of the Rohillas have probably not forgotten the pounding their ancestors received at the hands of Sikhs of olden times and are ever ready to riot against the Sikhs. As for some here saying Sikhs are now weak. It's not weakness, but the Sikhs don't retaliate instantly. In March 1947. when the Muslims of Pothohar had began killing Sikhs, the Sikhs did not retaliate then and this emboldened the Muslims of Punjab into thinking that Sikhs had grown weak and can no longer retaliate, and so the Muslims continued with their violence. When the Sikh retaliation did eventually come during the summer of 1947, they ended up killing double the amount of Muslims. It's sad so many people had to die. But had the Sikhs retaliated in March when they began killing Sikhs, as the Hindus had done in Calcutta during direct action day then maybe a million people would not have died in Punjab on both sides of the border. Very old but true saying is, Hindus prepare for the storm before it comes, Muslims prepare when it comes and Sikhs prepare after the storm has passed. And unfortunately for us this is true. Even though Guru Gobind Singh Jee had given hukam to Sikhs to always be tyar bar tyar, but Sikhs are never battle ready when the battle happens. Riots of 1947, 1984 and even the Sacha Sauda riots and now Saharanpur riots are all proof of this.

These guys are even lower than prostitutes ...jitte paise milde othe matha tekkde han ... and they encourage our gullible kids that it's OK ...to do this and drink, and ogle women and trim gurroop ....ehejey nu mu kala karke kothe utthe sher di chakr kudinah chahida

Guy who made the petition is an <banned word filter activated>. Only 76 signatures lmao. Funny thing is guy who made the petition is now crying on FB that he won't be posting anymore. Seems like just your avg attention who**

Bin Har bhajan jaytay kaam karee-ah taytay birthay jaanhi Without meditating on the Lord´s Name, whatever deeds you do will be useless. Jap tap sanjam karam sukh saaDhan tul na kachhoo-ai laahi. Chanting, deep meditation, austere self-discipline, good deeds and other techniques to being peace - they are not equal to even a tiny bit of the Lord's Name. Saarang mehlaa 5. * In these two lines above of Sachay Patshah, in simple words as usual, He is telling us about the supreme importance of Wahiguru´s Name. He clearly states and declares, that do whatever you want, but if you do not do His simran as means of devotion or bhakti, then all our efforts are useless, in the sense, it may be nice towards our fellow people, our community, but in His eyes, this has no value at all. Because, inspite of doing our bhajan bandagee, as per instructions in the Bani, we show dependance on many other factors. Our relation is with Wahiguru alone, our hearts, our minds should be for Wahiguru alone, nobody should stand in our way. When He is all powerful, and is fully available for us without the need of any mediators, why do we still bring others in between? No matter how saintly or devoted they maybe, but the fact is, He is present in them in the same measure as in us, then too, we depend on others... Is this our behaviour not showing our lack of faith in Him? The Bani sings His glory and lays importance on one Wahiguru alone and His Nam, but we like the hindus, have introduced many outer elements into the pure paviter Gurmat, such a pitiful scene..... Sukhmani sahib, Anand Sahib, Japjee Sahib, as well as any other Bani of our Guru Sahibans, say that Nam is Supreme, and by doing its Simran, all our miseries shall end, not only that, but we shall become worthy of merging ourselves in Him. Is that not the purpose of our devotion? But we instead, like the hindus, if anything has to dealt spiritually, we also say, do this jaap/paath for so many times, or do it everyday at a particular time, or go there and visit that place .... The objective of our Guru Sahibans, throughout their Bani, was to withdraw our attention from the outer objects, things and places, which is nothing but: maya, koor, mithiyaa and naashvant, and try to attach it the only one permanent reality or Truth, which is Wahiguru and Nam, through its Simran. As simple as that. But we have manipulated and twisted the meaning of the Bani quite a bit, so naturally the insight of the right direction of our goal is missed, and thus we have once again jumped outwards, there where is only darkness and agyanta. Nanak, Nam, maha rus meetha. This Nam is true Ambrosia, which once if tasted, all other tastes of the world are tasteless to us. This is the real purpose of Gurmat, to detach us from the world and its bandhans, and attach us to His Lotus Feet. Waheguru.

I have to admit when it comes to dealing with Muslims and Christian missionaries Hindus are faar better then us . Valmikis openly beated sikh boy in Amritsar but Sikhs never reacted same thing happens in Delhi and poor riot victims Sikhs went after Vaalmikis like anything looks like anakh - Self respect have died among Sikhs of Punjab send them to Delhi or Hyderabad for moral boosting . Haa vai Punjab aalyo vahde zameendaro soormyo kithe haige ho tuhade naalo ta Delhi te bhaape te Hyderabad de vanjare jaida ankhi ne .

To Mann group - Still want to talk about Sikh- Muslim friendship ? Still people are blaming Hindus for this . WAKE UP singho the biggest blunder we can do is by trusting muslims . We did the blunder by protecting their mosques in london riots and then we are csupporting Kashmiri radicals knowing what they did to Sikhs . Mr Mann visited the muslim relief camp after Muzzafar nagar riots and this is we get . Lets teach them lessons in punjab , let them know if toch our brothers again we will get after you very hard . Sikhs in hyderabad did right things .

It can be so terrible at times... Very distracting!

at least 2 malaysian punjabis died on that plane... 1 was a cabin crew...1 was an employee of Exxonmobil though none of them were tyar bar tyar amritdhari.