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Worst mistake Sikhs can make is to make the white man's narrative of disliking Muslims his own. We will like and dislike someone on our own terms.Lets not forget why people in Iraq, Syria, Libya have become refugees in the first place and how those once stable countries have now become centers of Jihadi activity. Next time Americans should seriously think twice before acting as king makers in the name if regime change. Today these refugees and western European counties are suffering due to America's misadventures in the middle east.

None of the above. My opinion Sikhs shouldn't vote Labour heavily implicated in the grooming scandals. The Labour candidate shared a platform with extremist groups. The multi millionaire Conservative candidate recently voted for disability cuts. I would vote UKIP and no they are not racist, that's a misconception, they are not whiter than white but a better alternative to Lib\Lab\Con. What have Labour done for the Ealing Ward which has the biggest concentration of Sikhs outside the Punjab?

Jagjit Singh was the previous guru of the namdharis, not the current one. He died some years ago. You may also recall that there was a schism in the Namdhari sect. The group led by Uday Singh always sought to remain independent of the Khalsa and continue the line of Namdhari guruship, whereas the group led by Thakur Dalip Singh made overtures to become part of mainstream Sikhi. However I wouldn't be surprised if this cowardly assassination turns this second group of Namdharis off their plans completely. Mata Chand Kaur was a highly respected elder within the Namdhari community, her murder will not go down well. All these idiots have done by killing this poor, innocent old woman is to spoil any chance of the Namdharis ever returning to the Sikh fold. It's just like the time those fools murdered the Ravidasi Baba in Vienna, and caused the Ravidassia Sikhs to abandon Sikhi completely and form their own religion. This could have been a fantastic opportunity to strengthen the Panth, but I knew we would manage to screw things up somehow. The Khalsa grows smaller every day. Shame.

Lt Brian Murphy interviewed by Jagraj Singh. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1058739267497473&id=245721062132635

Bhaji, to be honest I was making a general of removing Guru Ji from places other than Gurdwaras I didn’t read the article in question. Of course any direct beadbi of Guru Sahib Ji should be taken extremely seriously. When we get avasta we can see that everything is connected. In the cosmos, in the family, in the people we intact with, with the people we pass by on the street we are all connected and akaal resides within all. Who are we so say who is showing the greater beadbi? Who is showing the greater sharda? I have met Hindus in India who have the greatest piyar for Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Yet if one was to look at them we would shake our heads in disgust, “these lallay got piyar for Guru Ji ??? “ Yet we create great beadbi in Guru Ji’s haroozi and just brush it under the carpet, "Oh these things happen." Satch kahoo sun layho sabhay, jin PREM keeo tin he prabh payoo. PIYAR is the greatest virtue, within piyar, prem bhagti, one will find Akaal. Was it not a sevak of Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji who took bites out of each fruit before putting them in the basket and presented them to Guru Ji out of total love? It would be us FOOLS who would call this great beadbi, the same thing happened to Raam Ji, but I had better not mention them as a mere mention of anything Hindu seems to cause most Sikhs so come out in a fever. Guru-they-piyario we are all the same, there is no outsider. Was it Bhagat Namdev Ji who found a black dog running off with his roti. We of course would call it great beadbi when Bhagat Ji ran after it with the ghee, “Prabhoo why have you taken the roti but not the ghee?” Bhagat ji shouted because he saw Akaal in everything. Thakur koe isnaan karo. . . . . Bhagat Ji says we want Thakur to do isnaan but there are 42 lakh joon living in the jall, how can the jall / water be pure ? I stick by my original point, we need to expand Sikhi and show adhav and satkaar of Guru Ji, Guru Ji is not ours He is of the whole jagat, we are the ones who are full of ego if we think only we show satkaar to Guru Ji. Guru Ji looks after us not the other way. But you are right, I do have no sharda, may Guru Ji take pity on my soul.

Because European countries offer great benefits, its ridiculous how theyre skipping so many safe and close by countries to go further into Europe to countries that have better benefits. If they went to another Muslim country theyd be forced to live in tent cities until given the boot one day.

A muslim mayor of London In a already islamfied London cannot be good for the capital of England or non muslims.

I didn't say you are calling them, from your comment it sounds as you are supporting their ideas. Do you know what their beliefs are?There are two sides to them now, so there is conflict between themselves too.

Does anyone know who killed her? Could it have been a rival Kuka group?As for the Soorbir Singhs who did sodha of that Pakhandi Ramanand, his followers were never Sikh to begin with. They were just as big enemies of the Khalsa as the Narkdharis. They have hijacked the name of Bhagat Namdev jee in the name if casteism and have begun calling him Guru. Our historians have not done much research on this but according to Mahapursh and puratan sources Bhagat Namdev jee and all the other Bhagats were indeed GurSikh who had the blessings of Satguru Nanak Dev jee upon them. None of them remained Hindu or Muslim.

I apologise for this post, as I had put the wrong link on and also now I cannot find the post on Facebook, which was put on by a Punjabi page. I've not seen on Sikh Channel, or other Sikhi related pages and cannot find this news anywhere. So until I get full confirmation, I am deleting the details. Please forgive me of my mistake, bhul chuk maaf karna ji, ?? Waheguru

Research article on idol worship http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Idol_Worship

Well said brother. Hitting the nail on its head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEFcazZoo00 Terrible decision to elect this dude, thousands and thousands of syrian moslim immigrants coming into canada for the next 4 years. I used to envy the sikhs that lived there. Not no more though, they have elected a moslim convert prime minister Justin Abdul Trudeau No wonder Justin Abdul and Hussain Obama have become best of mates. They are brothers of the ummah

I don't think he's a producer, but I wouldn't discount your other ideas. The BBC is big on political correctness and token diversity. Then again maybe he just really likes Question Time? All I know for certain is that every time I see a Singh on that show, I spend the whole hour watching him like a stalker to see what he'll do lol

Sikh Sangat is a forum for Sikhs and like minded who want discussions on different spiritual levels and politics affecting Sikhs in general. I am sorry but Trump's bandwagon has nothing to do with Sikhi.

Guru Jee is not limted within the parameters of time and space as we the rest of the beings. Just as the sun arises in the sky and gives it sunshine to all of the creation, irrespective of caste, color, creed and gender. So is Guru Jee, full of Akhand Jot. Who spreads His Daya Meher on all, whether gursikhs, hindus, muslims, christians, to the extent , even on devis, devtas, gods, godesses.... All, absolutely all are worthy of His kirpa. It is we, who take Guru Jee as limited due to our limitations. But the fact is, Guru Jee is limitless as Wahiguru Himself. Sat Sree Akal.

Guru Granth Sahib Ji is for everyone, the message is universal. In the olden days, not so long ago in fact, Hindus used to come to the Gurdwara and the mulsims used to go to the Gurdwara and there was a togetherness that we just do not find these days. They did sewa in the Gurdwaras and did satkar of Guru Ji. But over the years we have showed great animosity to the local communities so much so that these days you will never find any Hindus or Muslims at Gurdwaras anymore.We ourselves have made Sikhi so small, we have shrunk it just to the Gurdwaras, and what a great job we are making of the Gurdwaras :-( We go into any place where we hear of saroop of Guru Granth Sahib Ji, instead of showing them how to do proper satkaar or Guru Ji, instead of showing them the rehat maryadha so that they can do true sewa of Guru Ji and that Guru Ji's message is cherished and spread by all to the whole world we instead create great hoo-ha and bring Saroop back to Gurdwara.

Could this be one of the reasons why paedophile gangs are allowed to flourish in the UK we have an issue of Police corruption? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/exclusive-scotland-yards-rotten-core-police-failed-to-address-endemic-corruption-9050224.html# Exclusive: Scotland Yard’s rotten core: Police failed to address ‘endemic corruption’ Organised crime infiltrated police ‘at will’, according to secret report. Top-level internal inquiry identified scores of corrupt individuals working for Met Tom Harper Thursday, 9 January 2014 Organised criminals were able to infiltrate Scotland Yard “at will” by bribing corrupt officers, according to an explosive report leaked to The Independent. The Metropolitan Police file, written in 2002, found Britain’s biggest force suffered “endemic corruption” at the time. Operation Tiberius concluded that syndicates such as the notorious Adams family and the gang led by David Hunt had bribed scores of former and then-serving detectives to access confidential databases; obtain live intelligence on criminal investigations; provide specialist knowledge of surveillance, technical deployment and undercover techniques to help evade prosecution; and even take part in criminal acts such as mass drug importation and money laundering. The strategic intelligence scoping exercise – “ratified by the most senior management” at Scotland Yard – found murder investigations had been infiltrated and sensitive intelligence regarding other organised crime investigations had been leaked, allowing the offenders to escape justice. The author lamented the Met’s inability to root out the problem. More worryingly, he also appeared to question Scotland Yard’s commitment to tackle organised crime corruption in the ranks. “For whatever reason, the current approach is simply to wait for the corruption intelligence to surface and to then react to it,” Tiberius concluded. Later, it added: “These syndicates are organised and all working towards the common goals of making profit, laundering their money, evading prosecution and preventing the forfeiture of their assets. The achievement of these goals is focused and determined; the law enforcement investigation should follow this lead.” Tiberius identified 80 corrupt individuals with links to the police, including 42 then-serving officers and 19 former detectives. It concluded: “Organised crime is currently able to infiltrate the MPS at will.” Research conducted by The Independent suggests that only a tiny number of the officers named as corrupt have been convicted. Keith Vaz, who chairs the Home Affairs Select Committee, said: “I am deeply concerned by the findings of this report. It is vital that the police have the utmost integrity. The public must be able to trust them to do their job and ensure justice prevails. “The Met have made vast progress rooting out corruption in the force in the last 20 years but it would appear more may still need to be done.” Mr Vaz added he would be writing to the current Met Commissioner, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, to “ensure that these allegations have been fully investigated and to confirm that he is satisfied that corruption no longer exists”. The report, produced by a team led by the former Met assistant commissioner Andy Hayman, paints a shocking picture of security at the time inside Scotland Yard, which had responsibility for the UK’s counter-terror operations. Working in secret, the Tiberius team drew on multiple sources of information including covert informants, intelligence from telephone intercepts, briefings from the security services and thousands of historic police files. One senior investigating officer interviewed by the inquiry said at the time: “I feel that… I cannot carry out an ethical murder investigation without the fear of it being compromised.” In one case, the report names an alleged corrupt officer who was inexplicably put in charge of a team investigating a gangland murder linked to organised crime. Other officers Tiberius says were known to be corrupt were also identified as working on inquiries into organised crime, many of which resulted in compromised investigations and, in some cases, failed prosecutions. Some relationships between Met officers and the criminal underworld were so close that in one case named police officers were identified as co-owning properties and even racehorses with a man suspected of being one of Britain’s most hardened gangsters. In one shocking case, a police statement taken from a highly sensitive witness was found in the safe of a nightclub controlled by the Adams family – described by Operation Tiberius as the “major crime family in north London”. The report stated the named witness was helping police try to solve the murder of Michael Olymbious, who the police believed had been killed after losing £1.5m of ecstasy pills owned by the syndicate. Tiberius also found a secret informant – codenamed “Lee Paul” – providing intelligence on the Adams family and the corrupt police in its pay to his handler at the Met, who appears to have been a man of integrity. However, Paul’s highly sensitive role was later uncovered by other officers and his activities became more widely known, causing uproar among the corrupt elements inside the Yard. But far from seeing this as evidence that the police were finally on to them, one rogue detective inspector was so unperturbed that he felt confident enough to brazenly threaten one of Paul’s handlers with reprisals. The ability of organised criminals to target highly sensitive police witnesses and informants was the subject last July of evidence given to Parliament by one of the Met’s most senior officers. When questioned by the Home Affairs Committee over a separate case of corrupt police officers targeting protected witnesses, revealed in The Independent, Assistant Commissioner Cressida <banned word filter activated> said: “I am not aware of anything in the Metropolitan Police that has resulted in infiltration thereof, but it is a risk that we are constantly trying to prevent materialising, of course, because people’s lives are at risk.” The Met’s inability to tackle the corruption of police officers by organised crime syndicates is laid bare in some of Tiberius’ recommendations. Although the report suggests a range of strategies to combat corruption, including establishing a dedicated task force, it also recommends merely “removing alleged corrupt officers from specialist departments back to borough postings to disrupt networks” and putting troublemakers “together on one particular unit to enable a strong manager to keep an eye on them”. A former senior officer, who recently retired from Scotland Yard, told The Independent: “Nothing has changed. The Met is still every bit as corrupt as it was back then.” One of the few successful investigations reviewed by Tiberius was Operation Greyhound, a long-running inquiry that found that two detectives had helped a known criminal hunt a money-launderer over a £600,000 debt. Martin Morgan and Declan Costello were paid £50,000 for helping Robert Kean, a builder with a string of previous convictions, find his former business associate, Andrew Smith. During their trial in 2002, the Old Bailey heard that Kean and another criminal, Carl Wood, spoke of torturing Smith and putting his body in a car crusher if he could not pay his debt. At the heart of the scandal was the friendship of Morgan and Kean, a suspected drugs dealer. When Kean wanted to find Smith, he turned to Morgan, who used intelligence databases available to Met detectives to try to track down and entrap him. Kean said Morgan “was good at his job” and would be paid “50gs”– £50,000 – to act as his bounty hunter. Morgan, Kean and Wood pleaded guilty to conspiring to unlawfully and injuriously imprison a man and to detain him against his will. Costello plead guilty to conspiracy to assault, causing actual bodily harm. Asked to comment on the Tiberius report, a spokesman for Scotland Yard said: “The Metropolitan Police Service will not tolerate any behaviour by our officers and staff which could damage the trust placed in police by the public. “We are determined to pursue corruption in all its forms and with all possible vigour. “The dedicated Anti-Corruption Command, part of the Met’s Directorate of Professional Standards, proactively investigates any allegations or intelligence relating to either corrupt police officers and staff [or] those that may seek to corrupt our officers’ staff. “There is no complacency in the Met’s determination to succeed in this task.” Botched jobs: Compromised murder investigations Kenneth Beagle Thought to have been killed by members of a named organised crime syndicate over a “failed drug importation”. Tiberius names a former Met police officer whom it says “has always been considered to be one of the most corrupt officers serving in the MPS”. The report claims this former officer contacted his “good friend”, a detective sergeant, on the investigating team whom Tiberius says “had previously been the subject of at least three corruption inquiries” yet was allowed to work on a gangland murder investigation. For reasons that are unclear, the Met formally “authorised” the meeting between the pair which “legitimised the access into the murder inquiry”. Tiberius notes that “shortly after the meeting” the alleged organised crime boss “knew that the investigation team considered him a suspect”. Ricky Rayner A suspected drug dealer who fled to Spain was one of the prime suspects for the murder of Ricky Rayner in 2001 and asked a man whom police suspected of leading a drug dealing syndicate to check whether he was still wanted in the UK. Within days, this man was able to find out the status of his associate following telephone contact with a police officer. The report stated a Police National Computer check was obtained from Bethnal Green police station. The suspected gangster was able to give the suspect the “all clear”, apparently leading to his return to Britain. Tiberius also identified “regular contact” between another suspected corrupt detective and a senior member of the investigation into the murder. Again, the investigating officer had previously been identified as possibly corrupt – yet had never been prosecuted and was put in charge of a sensitive investigation.