Baldeep Singh

Vahegurooo Ji Ka Khalsaaaah, Vaheguroooo Ji Ka Fateeeeeeh! Great post Bhai Sahib! On http://www.sachproductions.org/ they have are producing documentary called The Widow Colony which you can see a preview of about 7mins or so. After seeing the documentary it really makes you feel their emotions. :'( 5. Why Sikhs are not able to take care of the victims or just don't care? "Maya torments us in so many ways." ang 182 The reason why our community is blind and Mahamoorakhs "The life of the discarded bride is cursed. She is deceived by the love of duality." Ang 18 because of this we dont seek to help others nor ourselves as Pita Sri Guru Gobind Singh envisioned. 10. Why are we spending millions on organising huge functions if we can't provide basic necessities of life to these victims? "Without Naam, wealth is useless; deceived by wealth, they have lost their way." Ang 59 >> Do you have a reasonable answer as why Sikh/SGPC/AKALI DAL(s) haven't achieved success in pursuing Justice for these victims??????? "This world is engrossed in corruption and cynicism. Only those who know God are saved." Ang 13 "The fools do not know the difference between good and bad; they are deceived by their self-interests." Ang 649 Cynicism means distrust and doubt. Vahegurooo help us so that we can help our mothers, sisters, fathers and brothers who are suffering.

Vahegurooo Ji Ka Khalsaaaaaah, Vahegurooooo Ji Ka Fateeeeeeeeeeeh! Nanak Naam Jahaz Hai is an awesome film, I love it. Such an amazing storyline... Back in the 60s Sikhi was fully alive and it was totally "fashionable" to be a Sikh, everyone were wearing dastars and paghs, my parents tell me and can be seen how the films around this era was protraying Sikhi and its message. Sadly this has been lost, due to films like Funny Sunnys "Jo Bole So Nihal". The first time I saw this film was when I was about 5ish and I can still remember where I was, who I was with and the surroundings thats the kinda impact Satguru Nanak had on me at that age. Other great Sikhi based films of the late 60s-70-80s Nanak Naam Jahaz Hai [starring : Pritviraj Kapoor, grandfather of Karisma and Kareena Kapoor] Dukh Panjan Tera Naam [About Bibi Rajni] Nanak Dukhia Sab Sansar [starring Dara Sinh] Sawa Lakh Se Ek Laraun [starring Dara Singh] Manjeet Jagjeet [starring, Sunil Dutt, father of Sanjay] Guru Manio Granth Sat Sri Akal [starring, Sunil Dutt, father of Sanjay] Ucha Dar Babbe Nanak Da [starring Gurdas Mann]

I went to the last Khalsa camp when I was a mona and I didnt experience any frowning. Hold up! I frowned when I was in the toilet, does that count?

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vahegurooo Ji ka Khalsaaaaah, Vaheguroooo Ji ka Fateeeeeeh! Within Gurbani or has Bhai Gurdas Sahibji provided any the references to what occurred on Satguru Nanaks wedding day? I appreciate your help and a Hindu states that Satguru's rites were done according to Hindu custom. Baldeep. Vahegurooo Ji ka Khalsaaaah, Vaheguroooo Ji ka Fateeeeeeh!

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:'( Vahegurooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Vahegurooooooooooooooooooooo Vahegurooooooooooooooooooooo Vahegurooooooooooooooo Vaheguroooooooooooooooooo

Vaheguroooo Ji ka Khalsaaaaah, vahegurooooo Ji ka Fateeeeeh! Vidya and all in three months Bah Humbug!!! The true giver of knowledge is Satguru Granth Sahibji! Vaheguroooo Ji ka Khalsaaaaah, vahegurooooo Ji ka Fateeeeeh!

Vahegurooo Ji Ka Khalsaaaah, Vaheguroooo Ji Ka Fateeeeeh! Bhai Sahib Baba Nand Singhji pointing to Satguru Granth Sahibji from his soul clarifies to the congregation present "Eh Jeonda, Jaagda, Bolda Guru Nanak Hai" - "Sri Guru Granth sahibji is the living, awake, speaking Sri Guru Nanak Sahib” One time I met this bibi who follows the Nakla Baba/Gurus of Radhaswamis at me bus stop, she started to big up the the Nakla baba/Gurus saying that her Nakla Satsang they do parchaar in english and punjabi... I could tell where the conversation was going... I told her straight I do not believe these Nakla Babay, she said we believe in Guru Nanak - I said that is a baseless remark .. I believe in that Satguru who has come to save the whole world from this Kalyug, who ever desires to put their foot on the path of true love, they will be the ones who will saved by Guru Panth and Guru Granth. That Guru who saved this mahamoorakh, and gave me the gift of discipline. I cant bear to hear the nindiya of my Guru , I feel like cutting the tongues of these parasite Babay, one day Guru Sahib will give me an opportunity. Bhul Chuk Maaf I am just passionate.

Vahegurooo Ji Ka Khalsaaaah, Vaheguroooo Ji Ka Fateeeeh! I had read this article a couple of days ago and I felt it was very well written, researched and backed up by references which is vital for any comeback. Thanks for sharing it with the rest of the sangat Vaheguroooo Ji Ka Khalsaaaah, Vaheguroooo Ji Ka Fateeeeeeeh!

Vahegurooo Ji Ka Khalsaaah, Vahegurooo Ji Ka Fateeeh! This is a very typical punjabi mentality-based question-response, Bhai Sahib a few years back I had the same thoughts as you and I did ask the same questions as you but never got the responses because the Gursikhs here werent present when the events of before and afetr independence occurred. One really needs to self-research on what occurred and what the leaders at that time their-thoughts were on the whole issue. However, I am currently working on a Powerpoint presentation (example screen shot enclosed), which will give you a clear notion through the responses of those Hindu-political leaders (Mohandas Randhi, Bandit Nehru 6.0, Dr Rajendra Prasad) on what they felt about Sikhi, the Guru Sahibs and the Khalsa Panth and how the affects of preceding and subsequent independence has effected the self-governing aspects of Sikhi which has led to the current plight of the Khalsa-Panth and to its current predicaments. Vahegurooo Ji Ka Khalsaaah, Vahegurooo Ji Ka Fateeeh!

WAHEGUROOOOOO :TH:

Yea I totally agree. When will our elders ever learn The majority spend the Saturday nights out on the town, then the Sunday recovering from the aftereffects of the night before. And the excuse is usually "work hard, play hard, mad for it!" The elders should rather than building gurdwaras, should be looking at building a future.

Sacha Pitaji (true father) never gave up on us, he went to extent of sacrificing his very own blood so that we mere paupers can walk like Kings today and why do we betray our Guru by not even wearing his roop and the so-called 24 Million not follow his command (Hukam)? Everytime I think of Pitaji my emotions burn from inside. "HOW GREAT IS GURU GOBIND SINGH"

Chamkaur and Nation the words are too awesome :'( .... How great is Pita Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahibj Dhan O Dhan O,

I have purchased this book and it is absolutely diabolical compared to Warrior Saints. Plus it has derogative topics particularly about Bhang and Jatka. I recommend Bhai Sahib Bhai Rama Singhji and Bhai Sahib Bhai Randir Singhji books. A TOTAL WASTE OF £50

I presume the bleeder is dead by now

What an emotionally touching post.

Vahegurooo Ji Ka Khalsaaah, Vaheguroooo Ji Ka Fateeeeeh! I have been recently reading a book titled "The Sikhs" by John archer published in 1946 [Year before the so-called independence of India]. Within the book itself Mr Archer has written some wild facts about the Gurus and he doesnt reference where he has got the information from. Anyhow, this is what he writes about the events that occurred on the fay of Vaisakhi. THE KHALSA OF GOBIND SINGH If there was a Sikh who would yield himself to death then and there in the guru's stead to insure success to the cause for which the guru stood? There was no immediate response but silence on the part of all, as if no one fully understood. The guru added that Durga required sacrifice, actual bloodsacrifice, if the Sikh cause were to be successful, and this time there was at least thoughtful silence. Gobind spoke a third time in sincere, appealing vehemence, and five men, one by one, responded, offering themselves. It was a solemn moment and Gobind expressed deep satisfaction. Then he led them at intervals, one by one, into his tent, the place of sacrifice. Each time there could be heard by those without the fateful cry, "Ya Durga," and the sound of the falling blade-no other sound or utterance. Thereafter, on each occasion, Gobind emerged with the sword-blade dripping blood. The bystanders were at first awe-struck, soon many trembled in great anxiety and at the last sonic fled in mortal terror. But the solemn rite was slowly executed, and five loyal Sikhs, apparently, had gone to death as willing victims to Durga's pleasure. Then it was that Gobind spoke again with reassurance to the company, and turning toward the tent called the five men out again-who came at once to meet a still wondering but transformed audience. They had not been slain, those five. The blood was goat's blood, an animal dear to Durga as an offering, and the five willing, would-be victims were vet alive, to live as influential heroes wherever the Sikh cause led. They had become the immortal nucleus of the Khalsa! They were, by name, Dava Ram, a khatri of Lahore; Dharm Das, a Jat shudra of Delhi; Muhakam Chand, a shudra cloth-printer of Dwarka; Sahib Chand, a brahman of Bidar, and Himmat, a shudra kahar, or bearer, of Jagannath-three shudras, a kliatri and a brahman, now in a new casteless fellowship. What these five men had endured as a test of loyalty had a very great effect on all who were assembled at the....."- Page 193 "..... mela, and was destined to become a cherished, influential memory among all Sikhs. But there was need of something more continually effective if the Sikh cause was to prosper permanently. The Khalsa must depend on something more than newly kindled enthusiasm-such might wane-and the cherished memory of heroic acts and a sacrificial episode. Not that the sacrifice, even with the blood of goats, should be repeated and become habitual. This was hardly in keeping with the true Sikh religion. Gobind would provide, however, something quite as definite and likewise appropriate. What lie actually did at this time was manifoldthere would be several unifying factors which would make the Khalsa Sikhs unique, without any necessarily violent departure from their whole tradition. IIc instituted a baptismal rite, the pahul, the assumption of a new name, Singh, the wearing of tangible symbols of membership, the kakkas, a communion, with the sipping of nectar, amrit, and a managing committee, the panchayat. The five heroes of Anandpnr were the first to be baptized and immediately afterward the pahul or baptismal "cleansing" was administered to all, and all assumed the new name Singh, or "lion." The communion likewise was administered to all, beginning with the five. The original ceremony went somewhat in this fashion: Gobind took pure water in an iron vessel, stirred it with a two-edged dagger as lie recited some verses of the Japji and some other verses of his own composition, while his wife Jita threw in some sweets (patase). The result was amrit, nectar, the "water of immortality." The "baptism," then, consisted in sipping the liquid and submitting to a sprinkling with it-a rite altogether different from anything in Moslem or in Ilindu ritual, although possibly reminiscent of a Christian sacrament. The drinking of the liquid was in itself "communion" -all drank from the one vessel, thereby breaking caste! The five drank first as the guru held the vessel, then the guru" – Page 194

That Brar is a hard target in the Nazi stage

Is that from Bhai Nand Lalji

Bhai Sahib, if I have offended you Bhul Chuk Maaf I am fully aware of the volumes by Macauliffe and that the reknowned Bhai Kahn Singhji Nabha assisted Macauliffe with his book. As I work for one of the largest Universities in the UK and that they have numerous libraries dotted around campus. Therefore, I am blessed to have to hand access to first editions that many libraries in the UK dont. (Professor Tolkien [author of the Lord of the Rings] taught at the University :e:). Bhaiji when providing quotes in future, please provide name of the book, author, volume if applicable, and page number. :TH:

Yea I have read this cobs-wollop! Its in the book "The Sikhs" by Archer, the first edition was published 1946. Funny enough year before independence and the demise of the British Raj. Here is the full quote "Sikh records tell of Teg Bahadur's standing on the roof of his prison in Delhi and saying as he gazed off toward Bombay that India would one day be conquered by the British!", Page 189. Is it not strange that records show Guru Sahib saying this, what about Maharaja Ranjit Singhs rule didnt Guru Sahib see this coming as his rule came much sooner than the British! This is all made too distaught the Sikh history as well as to fabricate the truth. PLEASE place your full faith in Guru Granth Sahibji and not in the words of these so-called Historians! I will also be adding what Archer says about Satguru Nanak Dev Sahibjis physcial appearance and as well as what Satguru Gobind Singh Sahibji did on Vaisakhi according to Archer. The ignorant are leading the blind.

PANTH KI JEET, TEGH DEGH FATEH, RAJ KARENGE KHALSA <_< KHALISTAN ZINDABAD , HINDUSTAN MURDABAD :wub:

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