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instead of 'paisa/paise' , 'vaise' some (have heard all over Panjab but esp Majhails) say 'pahe' 'vahe' From what you know of different dialects in Indian Panjab, which region or subregion's dialect has changed the most ? I would guess Majha since it got cut off from Pakistani Panjab, and Malwa has become the dominant cultural and political area in Indian Panjab ? Wrt to your point about y/z/j - I think they are all potentially correct - Gurmukhi written Panjabi only got standardised post-partition ? Do you have any way to identify where in Panjab someone/there family is from when you speak with them ? Like any particular words which give it away ?

@dallysingh101 - you are very knowledgeable about this period of Sikh History, could you please give your opinion ?

ekan/okan/jikan/kikan idaahn/jiddahn/kiddahn ivve/ovve/jivve/kivve istaran/ostaran/jistaran/kistaran inj/unj

These type of crimes targetting Asian and apne community continue to happen, Sangat in UK please be aware, I know of a family close to us who were affected and they live in a gora area @S1ngh please move this thread to 'Politics/Lifestyle'

https://www.baaznews.org/p/black-sikh-collective Monika Sidhu: The Black Sikh Collective Is Building A More Inclusive Community “Being a Black Sikh, or being a non-Punjabi Sikh…it feels nice to know there are people out there that you can relate to, that can basically guide you." Jan 28 1 1 Monika Sidhu January 28, 2022 | 5 min. read | Original Reporting When Brianna Sukhmani Kaur started the Black Sikh Collective (BSC) in 2020 she was hoping to establish a wider conversation around being both Sikh and Black. Such experiences have not been discussed widely in the diaspora, even as the community grows. “Being a Black Sikh, or being a non-Punjabi Sikh…it feels nice to know there are people out there that you can relate to, that can basically guide you,” she says in an interview with Baaz. For her, it was about being able to speak on the experiences of Black Sikhs while also hoping to create a space that was inclusive to not only all the diverse voices within the Sikh world but for anybody who could resonate. “The Black Sikh Collective isn't insular. We're for any and everybody. Whether it's the LGBTQ plus community, the Dalit community, the Black community, the Indigenous community, we support all marginalized groups across the board.” BSC started off as an Instagram account alongside friend and fellow advocate Gurpreet Kaur, and has since brought in over 6,300 followers from many different walks of life. theblacksikhcollective A post shared by ʙʟᴀᴄᴋ & ꜱɪᴋʜ (@theblacksikhcollective) As a way to mobilize this dialogue, they began with creating resources for their page, such as how to create a more inclusive Gurdwara. This included offering tips on how to help newcomers to Sikhi as well as questioning how open the space really is to minority groups within the faith, including those with language barriers.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/british-sikh-peer-defends-priti-patels-sikh-separatist-extremism-comments-in-us-think-tank-speech/articleshow/89331215.cms

Badal going strong https://www.hindustantimes.com/elections/punjab-assembly-election/not-just-parkash-singh-badal-punjab-polls-will-also-have-this-80-year-old-candidate-101643868505833.html Not just Parkash Singh Badal, Punjab polls will also have this 80-year-old candidate Punjab assembly election 2022: Om Parkash Jakhu, a cobbler, will fight his 20th election, contesting from Hoshiarpur for the ‘Bharatrashtra Democratic Party.' Former Punjab chief minister Parkash Singh Badal. (HT Photo) Published on Feb 03, 2022 11:55 AM IST Byhindustantimes.com, New Delhi At 94, Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD) patriarch and former Punjab chief minister Parkash Singh Badal will contest the single-phase Punjab assembly elections, due to be held on February 20. This will make Badal India's oldest person to contest an election.

"Winnerjit Singh Goldy...." https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ludhiana/its-all-about-meeting-people-and-getting-on-to-their-phone-screens-7716971/ ‘It’s all about meeting people and getting on to their phone screens’ Winnerjit launched his campaign soon after his name was declared on December 4. Written by Raakhi Jagga | Ludhiana | Updated: January 11, 2022 7:19:18 am SAD candidate from Sangrur Winnerjit Singh Goldy recording a video for the voters of the area. It’s a cold day but Winnerjit Singh Goldy, SAD candidate from Sangrur district, is all smiles as he walks down the alleys of Bhuttiwal village, meeting senior citizens and seeking their votes with his hands folded.

More please !

Anyone who has not heard/read about Katha from Sri Suraj Prakash Granth about Dasam Patshah blessing Malwe di dharti , you can listen this Katha from around 3 mins http://www.gurbaniupdesh.org/multimedia/04-Katha/12-Amrit Bani (12 CD Set)/04-Ithaas Paatshahi Dasvin/Katha Ithaas Patshahi Dasveen-04.mp3

@GurjantGnostic Bravo to Sikh PA; they even want to do more help/seva for the Kaum to tackle Social Media idiots...

Never heard Aathan, only shaam. My parents and extended family are from Ludhiana zila/Puadh mainly. But asked my Mum, and she said that she used to say aathan when growing up My Dad grew up in Jagroan, came here as teeenager. I agree tarhke is used for early morning. Never heard him say aathan (he left Jagroan to come here over 50 years ago, maybe got influenced by others in the UK including Doabe). Some of our Ludhiane family friends use 'jwaak' (which my parents laugh a little at) but my parents say juaak or bache or niyane. Never heard 'wadda tarhka' lol Girls can be called 'beta' or 'betay' if addressed first person, beti if third person Never heard any time before 12pm as dupair/dupaire. We use 'tarhke' ; 'savere' (or sometimes 'subah'); dupaire; shaam; raat; adi raat to refer to general times. Din vele for daytime. Shaam (or rarely Sundaye vele for evening ) - I think, maybe getting confused Is 'tarhka' or 'turhka' correct Panjabi for seasoning ? We say 'tarhka' I think all Malwe mostly do, 'turhka' is Doaba and maybe the correct pronounciation like 'put' for 'dig' and 'chuk' for 'pick' rather than 'pat' and 'chak'

Not just Sikhs...

Yes Boris made him look silly recently though ?

Is it only a Malwa tradition for wife to not call husband by husband's name when calling him, or discussing him in conversation ?

Majha used to have very few singers, probably because it has traditionally been more strict in Sikhi, but there seems to be increasing numbers of Majhail singers now

Yes, not just Mirpuris. But the people from neighbouring parts of Pakistan Panjab to Mirpur such as around Rawalpindi, Gujar Khan, Gujrat are the ones who also dominate Pakistani population here in the Midlands and North, and probably a lot of the 'Mirpuri' gangs and groomers have a mix of these people involved

I know people who live/lived in Chigwell and have visited them, and it is not all posh from what I see. Also, it's got a lot of 'new money' rich types that live there rather than traditionally wealthy families, think 'Birds of a Feather' from TV I know Asians that have moved from East Ham to Romford as well, the 'white flight' will likely continue moving outwards...

By their nature of being actors and singers, these people are all sellouts to their Religion Thought this was interesting https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/29-Jan-2022/indian-actor-singer-gippy-grewal-barred-from-entering-pakistan Indian actor-singer Gippy Grewal has been barred from entering Pakistan through Wagah border on Friday as the Indian immigration authorities reportedly stopped him at the Atari border. According to sources in the Evacuee Propriety Trust Board, all the arrangements were in place to receive the Punjabi singer at the border as he was scheduled to visit Kartarpur. “He was to move to Kartarpur (Narowal) at 9:30am and return to Lahore by 3:30pm. Later, Gippy was scheduled to attend a reception at Governor House. On Jan 29, he was to visit Nankana Sahib before his return to India,” an ETPB official told Dawn. According to another source, the 39-year-old was to enter Pakistan through the Wagah border on a two-day visit with six or seven other people, however, he was stopped at the Atari check post. “He was also to visit Gurdwara Darbar Sahib in Lahore and then he had meetings at the Governor House. The next day he was supposed to leave for Nankana Sahib to pay respects at the Sikh religious site,” he explained. Moreover, the last time Grewal visited Kartarpur he socialised with people and showed great enthusiasm, warmth and love for Pakistanis and the places he visited. On the work front, Gippy Grewal is a popular figure in Pakistan, especially with Punjabi film audience, and internationally too, his films, such as Carry on Jutta and Lucky Di Unlucky Story topped popularity charts.