Gurparsad

I have utmost respect for Sant ji, but how can we declare him "The greatest Sikh of the 21st century"? What happened to all the other great souls of the past hundred years?

bhain jio i think there is a word missing, it should probably say: ਪਰਾਈ = other instead of: ਪਰਾਈ = ਸਿਰਿ = head so that bhaar paraaee means other's burdens

Should it not be: Na Bhullee(n) na bhulaaee(n) Na visree(n) na visaaree(n) the signifies a bindi at teh end of the word Also i think visree/visaaree(n) means forget, same as bhul. Separate would be vichhurr with a chhachha - ਵਛਿੁੜ

The shabad is Nikas rey pankhi simar har paankh. It used to be on the blog of Novtej Singh from uk i believe but I can't find it there. I think he may have done it at the sedgley street smagam in 2003.

Bhanji just a small thing to add - the line 'Pavan guru pani pita mata dharat mahatt' does not mean the water coming down from the shower is your father, etc. I dont fully understand what it does mean, perhaps you could start a thread in the gurbani section for that, but it surely does not mean that we have to keep covered in the presence of any source of water. That said, it is part of rehit to not part from our kakaar at any time, therefore kasherey/kirpaan should not be removed during ishnaan, but not because the pani is our 'pita'

post on www.bcsikhs.com.

exercise helps A LOT. it used to take me up to 20-30 lying in bed until i fell asleep but now with school, i get enough exercise just walking to and from classes. so for the past few weeks, i've been falling asleep within 5-10 mins. also the book at this link has some really good info, helped me out a lot - "How To Sleep Less And Have More Energy" it's kind of long, i think 60-70 pages but i just skipped the parts that i didnt really need to read. here's a summary: Inside you'll learn... The most misleading LIE about sleep that is costing you your health and energy every single day. How sleeping 8 hours or more each night can actually lower your energy, and drag you down all day. 14 powerful habits that will pump-up your sleep system, let you wake up 1-3 hours earlier with more energy than when you slept longer. One sleep "secret" action you can take within 45 seconds of opening your eyes in the morning, to instantly raise your energy. Why "catching up on sleep" often leaves you more tired than before and 3 simple steps to eliminating that problem. Which sleeping pills have devastating effects on your health and what to do to avoid long term medical problems if you're currently using them.

veer/bhain gurbaani jio, i think you're overreacting to miri piri's post a little. all he/she was saying that when quoting facts, they need to be from a credible source. that's not to say that the source you gave isn't credible, nor that those facts are false. of course as gursikhs we all understand the importance of kesh, but when explaining to others, it would seem more believable if you're giving an actual scientific source. interesting info though, would be good to look into this more. :s

i dont normally post but wanted to comment. i think gyani pinderpal singh ji would make a great jathedar, and if he disagrees with the meat issue, why can't he work to change it as jathedar? if a sarbat khalsa was called to discuss that issue, most panthic jathebandis would agree. that's one issue that the 'big' jathe agree on (i.e. taksal, akj, etc). plus he's well respected in all jathas. i dont know much about former jathedar bhai ranjit singh, but from what i've heard he was also very good for the panth, so that would be a good choice as well.

could it be that dulabh means hard to find (i.e. rare) because 'du' generally makes the word negative, and labh means find. hence du + labh = hard to find just a thought, no idea if it's correct or not

rwgu soriT bwxI Bgq rivdws jI kI raag sorat(h) baanee bhagath ravidhaas jee kee Raag Sorat'h, The Word Of Devotee Ravi Daas Jee: <> siqgur pRswid ] ik oa(n)kaar sathigur prasaadh || One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: jb hm hoqy qb qU nwhI Ab qUhI mY nwhI ] jab ham hothae thab thoo naahee ab thoohee mai naahee || When I am in my ego, then You are not with me. Now that You are with me, there is no egotism within me. Anl Agm jYsy lhir mie EdiD jl kyvl jl mWhI ]1] anal agam jaisae lehar mae oudhadhh jal kaeval jal maa(n)hee ||1|| The wind may raise up huge waves in the vast ocean, but they are just water in water. ||1|| mwDvy ikAw khIAY BRmu AYsw ] maadhhavae kiaa keheeai bhram aisaa || O Lord, what can I say about such an illusion? jYsw mwnIAY hoie n qYsw ]1] rhwau ] jaisaa maaneeai hoe n thaisaa ||1|| rehaao || Things are not as they seem. ||1||Pause|| nrpiq eyku isMGwsin soieAw supny BieAw iBKwrI ] narapath eaek si(n)ghaasan soeiaa supanae bhaeiaa bhikhaaree || It is like the king, who falls asleep upon his throne, and dreams that he is a beggar. ACq rwj ibCurq duKu pwieAw so giq BeI hmwrI ]2] ashhath raaj bishhurath dhukh paaeiaa so gath bhee hamaaree ||2|| His kingdom is intact, but separated from it, he suffers in sorrow. Such is my own condition. ||2|| rwj BuieAMg pRsMg jYsy hih Ab kCu mrmu jnwieAw ] raaj bhueia(n)g prasa(n)g jaisae hehi ab kashh maram janaaeiaa || Like the story of the rope mistaken for a snake, the mystery has now been explained to me. Aink ktk jYsy BUil pry Ab khqy khnu n AwieAw ]3] anik kattak jaisae bhool parae ab kehathae kehan n aaeiaa ||3|| Like the many bracelets, which I mistakenly thought were gold; now, I do not say what I said then. ||3|| srby eyku AnykY suAwmI sB Gt BuogvY soeI ] sarabae eaek anaekai suaamee sabh ghatt bhuogavai soee || The One Lord is pervading the many forms; He enjoys Himself in all hearts. kih rivdws hwQ pY nyrY shjy hoie su hoeI ]4]1] kehi ravidhaas haathh pai naerai sehajae hoe s hoee ||4||1|| Says Ravi Daas, the Lord is nearer than our own hands and feet. Whatever will be, will be. ||4||1|| "Like the story of the rope mistaken for a snake, the mystery has now been explained to me." - does anyone know this story in detail? also is there a story for the line that says "It is like the king, who falls asleep upon his throne, and dreams that he is a beggar."? thank you all :wub:

by Russell Kelfer Desperately, helplessly, longingly, I cried; Quietly, patiently, lovingly, God replied. I pled and I wept for a clue to my fate... and the Master so gently said,"Wait." "Wait? you say wait?" my indignant reply. "Lord, I need answers, I need to know why!" Is your hand shortened? Or have you not heard? By faith I have asked, and I'm claiming your Word. My future and all to which I relate hangs in the balance and you tell me to Wait?" I'm needing a 'yes', a go-ahead sign. Or even a 'no,' to which I'll resign. You promised, dear Lord, that if we believe, We need but to ask, and we shall receive. Lord, I've been asking, and this is my cry: I'm weary of asking! I need a reply. Then quietly, softly, I learned of my fate as my Master replied again, "Wait." So I slumped in my chair, defeated and taut, and grumbled to God, "So, I'm waiting...for what?" He seemed then to kneel, and His eyes met with mine... and He tenderly said, "I could give you a sign. I could shake the heavens and darken the sun. I could raise the dead and cause mountains to run. I could give all you seek and pleased you would be. You'd have what you want, but you wouldn't know Me. You'd not know the depth of My love for each saint. You'd not know the power that I give to the faint. You'd not learn to see through clouds of despair; you'd not learn to trust just by knowing I'm there. You'd not know the joy of resting in Me when darkness and silence are all you can see. You'd never experience the fullness of love when the peace of My spirit descends like a dove. You would know that I give, and I save, for a start, But you'd not know the depth of the beat of My heart. The glow of My comfort late into the night, the faith that I give when you walk without sight. The depth that's beyond getting just what you ask From an infinite God who makes what you have last. You'd never know should your pain quickly flee, what it means that My grace is sufficient for thee. Yes, your dearest dreams overnight would come true, but oh, the loss if I lost what I'm doing in you. So, be silent, my child, and in time you will see that the greatest of gifts is to truly know me. And though oft My answers seem terribly late, My most precious answer of all is still "WAIT".

was it the jhootha sauda baba? what were they saying?

havent read it yet, but would like to point out that Singhni Miri Piri is *probably* one of my bhanjis, not one of my veerjis. (to gsk )

but the first tuk doesnt refer to just any sikh... it clearly says GUR SATGUR KA jo sikh akhaae - so i think that the sikh/gursikh in the first and last panktees is pretty much the same.

this is an amazing story of a singh's transition into sikhi - http://forums.waheguroo.com/index.php?show...mp;#entry143312 WAHEGURUJEEKAAKHAALSA WAHEGURUJEEKEEFATEH Dear Saadh Sangat Jee,I know the topic of this thread is Manmukh to Gurmukh.Well I was definitly a Manmukh,but I am no way a Gurmukh. I used to drink alcohal,smoke cigarettes,smoke weed,and alot of other stuff.I got into so many fights,I was kicked out of 7 different high schools.In grade 9 I was suspended 7 times for getting into fights,and grade 10 I was suspended 14 times for fighting and selling weed.I was a total thug,caught up tryin to be a gangsta and be a tough guy and basically I was so lost in life.I really didn't have any morals,I wanted to be known in the streets and to have people fear me.The thing that I wanted most in life was to have so-called "Respect" on the streets. When I finished high school,then I moved onto the club scene.Me and my friends went around beating people up for no reason,we would beat people with bats,break bottles over their heads,anything you can think of,I have done it. Growing up I had love for God,but I didn't know how to express that love.I didn't know how to accept God's love either.I knew nothing about Sikhi,my parents are totally white washed and are atheists,so I wasn't raised to have faith in the Creator.I had no knowledge about this amazing way of life called Sikhi,I didn't know the names of any of the Guru Sahibs,let alone know any of the teachings of the Guru's.The only time I went to the Gurdwara was when I had to go to a wedding or something. When I was younger I would ask my family what was happining during the programs,but they didn't know anything about Sikhi themselves and they were there only to show their faces,so what could they teach me??? I'm third generation Canadian born,and my family has lost all connection to Sikhi and Punjab. My great grandfather Bhai Partap Singh Johal came to Canada with a group of 5 Singhs from Jandiala Punjab in 1906.Bhai Hurdit Singh Jee,Bhai Sadhu Singh Jee,Bhai Diwan Singh Jee,Bhai Takhar Singh Jee and my great grandfather Bhai Partap Singh Jee came by a ship that sailed from Calcutta to Hong Kong. In Hong Kong the Singhs had to change to another ship that took them to Victoria B.C.,Canada,and from Victoria they went to Vancouver B.C. Bhai Partap Singh worked in the lumber mills in and around Vancouver.The Sikhs in those day's would make about 20cents a day,they all would put their money together to buy atta to make roti and buy some vegtables to make daal.They would keep some money for housing and the rest they would send back to India to their families. My great grand father worked in Canada from 1906 to 1919 when he went back to Punjab to get married.In 1924 Bhai Partap Singh Jee,his wife Bibi Tej Kaur Jee and their first son Asa Johal came back to Canada to live.Bhai Partap Singh Jee and Bibi Tej Kaur Jee would go on to have 8 children,the second oldest is my grandmother Asi Johal. While growing up in Canada my grandma and her family would try their hardest to fit into Canadian society,but they faced many hardships.My grandmother was married to my grandfather,who had just arrived from India in 1939,when she was 16 years old.My grandparents had 4 children,the middle child was my mother. During the time that my mother was growing up in Canada alot of the children of the Sikh pioneers were losing their culture and were becoming westernized.They had no time for the Gurdwara,they were trying to fit in with the Caucasian majority.Alot of the children of the Canadian Sikh pioneers felt weird that their parents spoke another language,Punjabi, and because of it they would be made fun of at school.I guess alot of these kids felt ashamed because they were considered "second class". Both of my parents are Canadian born,they both know nothing about their culture and religion,and that is how my sisters and me were raised.To some extent,I grew up with my family telling me that I am Canadian nothing else,not Sikh,not Punjabi,not Indian. To white people I'm nothing but a "Hindu,Paki,Rag head,immigrant" and to Punjabi's I'm a coconut,brown on the outside but white on the inside.I was totally confused about who I was and who I belonged to. So many years went by of me asking myself Who am I?? Who are my people?? What is my religion?? Where do I belong?? All of my friends growing up were Punjabi,they all spoke Punjabi and knew a few things about Punjab and a few things about Sikhi.I would get bugged alot by them because I was a "fake' Punjabi,I didn't know anything about my culture,I couldn't even speak Punjabi. Finally when I was 21 years old,I had enough of being lost.I was lost spiritually,lost mentally,lost in a religous sense and lost in a moral sense. It was then that I went to the local library and started to read books on Sikhi.First it was 1 book,then 2,then 5,then 10,then 100,then 200,then 300,with Guru Sahib's Kirpa I have had the emmense blessings to have been able to read over 400 books on the Sikh religion, and the teachings of the Sikh Guru Sahib Jee's. Slowly my life started to change,I didn't want to go out to a club anymore,I didn't want to sit around and drink with my friends,all I wanted to do was stay home and read about the amazing history of the Sikh Nation.I was blessed with being able to read about how Sri Guru Nanak Dev Jee Maharaaj Jee went to so many countires to cure humanity of the illness of the Panj Chors(5 thieves) that rob mankind of their connection with God.I was given the gift of knowing that Sri Guru Arjan Dev Jee Maharaaj has built Sri Harimandir Sahib to give people from all corners of the world a place to come and worship together the Almighty Creator.I was blessed enough to know that Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Jee Maharaaj has given the Sikhs the command to live their life's as Sant Sipahi's(Saint-Soldiers).I was blessed enough to know that Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Jee Maharaaj had given his own head to protect another's right to their religion,and I was blessed enought to know about Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee. Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee,what can I even say about Kalgidhar Patshah Jee.It is this Guru who gave birth to the seed planted by Sri Guru Nanak Dev Jee,this Khaalsa Panth,these saints,these soldiers,these lovers of the truth,these lovers of humanity,these humble kings and queens. Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee has given his whole family so that we can live free today,Guru Gobind Singh Jee has given us Panj Kakaars, these gifts that tells the world who our father and mother is,they let the world know who we belong to,Guru Gobind Singh Jee who has filled us with Bir ras so that we can face the enemy,the tyrants with no fear in our hearts and minds. Dhan Dhan Sachey Patshah Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee the one who is there to lift up your head when you feel down,the one who holds you when you cry,the one who takes you by the arm to show you how to be a man,a woman,a son,a daughter,a husband and wife.Guru Gobind Singh Jee the commander who leads us in battle against the evil of this world,the light that keeps the sun shining, the calm at night,the peace in our hearts,the shastars in our hands,Our Guru is all these and more. Guru Sahib Jee has shown me so much mercy and forgiveness,this amazing Guru has changed my life. On September 18th 2005 I stopped cutting my hair,shaving and gave up all the alcohal and partying.Guru Maharaaj had told me that I will die very soon if I do not stop living my life the way that I had been for so many years.Guru Sahib told me to have complete faith and love for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee,if I do this,if we all do this then we will forever be protected and we as the Khaalsa will be exalted to the highest postion,spiritually,physically and mentally.I had 90 days to prepare myself to take Amrit. After a couple weeks of keeping my kes uncut my dhari was coming in,my family was getting very angry with me,calling me names and trying to convince me that I will go nowhere in life if I chose to become a Sikh.By this time I had moved in with my grandmother because of problems I had with my parents,and on October 1st 2005,I woke up to go to school and my grandmother said to me that I had to move out of her house because I was doing nothing with my life.She said to me "Who will ever give you a job with that beard,no one wants to have a unclean looking person working for them.You wont get a job and I wont support you looking like this!". She then told me that I had until 3pm of that day to shave or I had to leave her house.I went to school that day,but couldn't really focus on anything,I was really concerned with what was going to happin when I went home.Would I have to sleep on the street?? or go to a homeless shelter?? I had no clue what was going to happin. Lucky for me though the Gurdwara Sahib was only 5mins away,so I went there and did Matha Tekna to the king of kings,Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaaj and then did Ardaas and asked my Guru to please help me. I then talked to the Giani Jee's and told them my situation,they were so supportive.They told me that I could stay at the Gurdwara if I needed a place to stay.Guru Sahib had brought these Singhs into my life for a reason,they taught me how to read and write Gurmukhi so that I could do paat properly,they were teaching me punjabi,they showed me how to do Sukhasan di Seva of Guru Sahib. I then left the Gurdwara around 2:00pm,I was really not looking forward to the situation that I knew I would have to face.But when I got home my grandma wasn't home.I started to pack up some clothes though so that I could take them with me when I got kicked out.While I was doing that I found a business card that someone had given to me a few months before,it was a business card for a security company.I thought to myself that I might as well call them to see if they had any job openings,and what do you know? the boss asked if I could start that day at 4:00pm. So here I was now with a job,2 hours before I was stressed out because I thought I would be living on the streets.I went to work that day and the boss didn't care that I had a dhari.Guru Jee answered my Ardaas so quickly,this is just another example of how Guru Jee takes care of their Sikhs. When I came home from work that night,I told my family that I have a job and that having a dhari will in no way keep me from working. A couple weeks later I started wearing a dastaar full time and my family really started to freak out,they wouldn't want to be seen with me in public.I got more rude comments,they said that I was an embarresment to them and that all the hard work that they have done to become Canadian,that I just ruined it all for them. I then started to try to find info on when the next Amrit Sanchaar was going to happin,I e-mailed the sevadaars at B.C.Sikh Youth and they told me that an Amrit Sanchaar will be happining in December.I was so happy,finally I could wash away my past karams(actions) and become the person that I was sent to this earth to become. The Sevadaars from B.C. Sikh Youth also told me about an upcoming Akhand Jaap that was going to take place at the Guru Nanak Academy,I knew that I had to go. On November 20th 2005,I arrived at the Guru Nanak Academy in Surrey and let me tell you Sangat Jeeo,it felt like Sach Khand.Never in my life have I seen Sangat as amazing as this,in my city of Victoria there is not too much Sangat,a hand full of Amritdharis and there is hardly any keertan programs.So being at the Guru Nanak Academy and seeing Gursikhs from the ages of 2 years to 90 years was the most breathtaking sight that I have ever seen. I got to meet Gursikhs that day that I truelly admired,I had seen pics of these Gursikhs on different websites,I had heard katha done by them,I had seen them in the Gatka Mixtape part 2,I had seen websites that they designed.These Gursikhs who I met that day are now my bestfriends,I want to take this oppurtunity to thank them for all their support and love.You all are truelly amazing people.Guru Sahib Jee has truelly taken care of me,not once has he left me alone.Guru Jee had found me a job,had given me Sangat of his Gursikhs and Guru Jee was about to give me the greatest gift. On December 25th 2005,this piece of dirt,this animal,the lowest of the low was given Amrit Di Daat.Here was this guy who spent his whole life running away from good deeds,trying to be a criminal,here I was now in the Darbar of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee ready to give my head to the Guru and become a Sikh of Guru Nanak Dev Jee. Just thinking back to the Amrit Sanchaar brings tears to my eyes,the Panj Piaarey,wow what can I even say,Guru Roop Panj Piaarey. The whole experiance is something I try to think about everyday,just watching the Panj Piaarey stir the Amrit with the Khanda while they recited Panj Bania that is the most mind blowing experiance. When the Amrit was created and it was time to give Khandey Di Pahul to those giving their heads,I was blessed by the Guru to be the first one to recieve Amrit.I can't really put into words what happined next,it will be an experiance that I will never forget. I was also renamed that day by Guru Roop Panj Piaarey,the first Akhar(letter) of the hukamnama was Kakka,and the Panj Piaarey named me Karamjeet Singh,which means having Victory over you Karams(actions).Guru Sahib picked the name that best described my situation in life. All I can say now Saadh Sangat Jee is please give your heads to the Guru while you still can.I know alot of people say "Oh well I want to become a Sikh,but I'm too young,maybe when I'm older".We have to remember that nothing is guaranted in this world except death,you can die in 5 years,5 months,5 days,5 minutes or 5 seconds from now.Recieve the gift of Amrit while you still can. My whole life has changed since I became a Sikh,everything that has happined is Guru Sahibs hukam.My worldy parents have disowned me,my worldy father hasn't talked to me for almost a year,and my worldy mother hasn't talked to me for about 6 months. It's ok because my real father and mother,Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee and Sri Mata Sahib Kaur Jee talk to me all day everyday.They show me all the love a child can ask for,they forgive me for all the screw up's I do,and show me how to be a true human being. Saadh Sangat Jee please forgive me for any mistakes that I may have made while writting this post,I am only the dust of your feet. If anyone has found anything inspirational in this post,please remember that we can do nothing in life without the Guru's love,support and guidance.I am a fool,I am only alive today because Guru Sahib Jee has saved me from the pool of filth that I was swimming in. I am not a Gurmukh,but with Guru Sahib's Kirpa I am not a Manmukh.We can all be saved from the evils of this world as long as we look to the Guru to save us.Have full faith in Waheguru Jee,grab onto the holy Charan Kamal(Lotus Feet) of the Guru and never let go. I have included a pic of me from 2003 and a recent pic of me Reduced 60% 500 x 375 (110.83k) Reduced 60% 375 x 500 (132.66k) Akaal Sahae Karamjeet Singh WAHEGURUJEEKAAKHAALSA WAHEGURUJEEKEEFATEH

yeah i dont get that either.

even knowing the truth, we still run to falsehood: kbIr mnu jwnY sB bwq jwnq hI Aaugnu krY ] kabeer man jaanai sabh baath jaanath hee aougan karai || Kabeer, the mortal knows everything, and knowing, he still makes mistakes. kwhy kI kuslwq hwiQ dIpu kUey prY ]216] kaahae kee kusalaath haathh dheep kooeae parai ||216|| What good is a lamp in one's hand, if he falls into the well? ||216|| definitely death should be dedicated to Akaal Purakh! Maharaj ji says: AMiq kwil nwrwiexu ismrY AYsI icMqw mih jy mrY ] a(n)th kaal naaraaein simarai aisee chi(n)thaa mehi jae marai || At the very last moment, one who thinks of the Lord, and dies in such thoughts, bdiq iqlocnu qy nr mukqw pIqMbru vw ky irdY bsY ]5]2] badhath thilochan thae nar mukathaa peetha(n)bar vaa kae ridhai basai ||5||2|| says Trilochan, that man shall be liberated; the Lord shall abide in his heart. ||5||2|| BUT we can't just leave it to the last breath. doing simran at the last breath will only come if its already ingrained into our swaas. AMiq n swihbu ismirAw jweI ]3] a(n)th n saahib simariaa jaaee ||3|| at the very last instant, he cannot suddenly be contemplated. ||3|| ----------- Ab n Bjis Bjis kb BweI ] ab n bhajas bhajas kab bhaaee || If you do not vibrate and meditate on Him now, when will you, O Sibing of Destiny? AwvY AMqu n BijAw jweI ] aavai a(n)th n bhajiaa jaaee || When the end comes, you will not be able to vibrate and meditate on Him. rqnu iqAwig kaufI sMig rcY ] rathan thiaag kouddee sa(n)g rachai || Forsaking the jewel, they are engrossed with a shell. swcu Coif JUT sMig mcY ] saach shhodd jhoot(h) sa(n)g machai || They renounce Truth and embrace falsehood. jo Cfnw su AsiQru kir mwnY ] jo shhaddanaa s asathhir kar maanai || That which passes away, they believe to be permanent. jo hovnu so dUir prwnY ] jo hovan so dhoor paraanai || That which is immanent, they believe to be far off. i've heard that Iceland is really grass, whoever discovered it didnt want others to invade so he named it Iceland.. and Greenland is really ice... hmm.. i see i have just demonstrated the kinds of thoughts you are talking about above. :imstupid: guru sahib sumat bakhshan.

hanji, i agree with teh above. this is definitely a good effort but it should be stressed that all who decide to keep their kesh should keep them after teh 40 days as well.

am i the only one who's worried about what it actually says they've done instead of the titles given to them?? why are so many of them linked to 'islamic terrorist groups'?? and any sort of terrorist like activities should NOT be supported by gursikhs. GURSIKHS DO NOT PUT INNOCENT LIVES ON THE LINE. "Neeta’s associates were responsible for a series of explosions in running trains and buses in Punjab, Delhi, Haryana & J&K. Neeta emerged as a leading terrorist not only in the context of Punjab militancy but developed operational alliances with splinter groups of J&K militants" ??? why in the world do people find this acceptable??? how is it that the london bombings were terrorist acts but these people can do practically the same thing and be supported by sikhs??

it's not strictly moderated, from what i've seen. i was just in the chat room and although there was nothing all that bad, it wasnt any sikhi discussion. also profanity was used, and the users said that it was 'after hours' and that there was no moderation at this time. i would suggest to sevadaars to have a moderator not only present but also have a set topic of discussion based on sikhi - gurbani, current events, anything. the mod should ensure that the discussion doesnt get out of hand or off topic. this is a good resource but only if used wisely. otherwise it's just like any other chat room.

yoga?

hsq Kylq qyry dyhury AwieAw ] hasath khaelath thaerae dhaehurae aaeiaa || Laughing and playing, I came to Your Temple, O Lord. Bgiq krq nwmw pkir auTwieAw ]1] bhagath karath naamaa pakar out(h)aaeiaa ||1|| While Naam Dayv was worshipping, he was grabbed and driven out. ||1|| hInVI jwiq myrI jwidm rwieAw ] heenarree jaath maeree jaadhim raaeiaa || I am of a low social class, O Lord; CIpy ky jnim kwhy kau AwieAw ]1] rhwau ] shheepae kae janam kaahae ko aaeiaa ||1|| rehaao || why was I born into a family of fabric dyers? ||1||Pause|| lY kmlI cilE pltwie ] lai kamalee chaliou palattaae || I picked up my blanket and went back, dyhurY pwCY bYTw jwie ]2] dhaehurai paashhai bait(h)aa jaae ||2|| to sit behind the temple. ||2|| ijau ijau nwmw hir gux aucrY ] jio jio naamaa har gun oucharai || As Naam Dayv uttered the Glorious Praises of the Lord, Bgq jnW kau dyhurw iPrY ]3]6] bhagath janaa(n) ko dhaehuraa firai ||3||6|| the temple turned around to face the Lord's humble devotee. ||3||6|| amazing shabad this is, written by bhagat naam dev ji. here's some interesting info on bhagat ji.

vaheguru jio why have so many posts been edited? i know what it said before, but has there been any change in that information? if not then sangataan should be given that info.

that's amazing. how long ago was this? i didnt hear anything about any gursikh passing away.