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Guys, what is the problem with talking to apni bibian abot sikhi and getting them online with Guru ji so there is an enrichment of the whole kaum instead of playing what if games ? Most bibis are thirsty for Sikhi but have been put off by their relatives and friends ...if she feels supported in her Sikhi you will be amazed just how wonderful life will be for both of you https://www.facebook.com/singhandsinghni84/photos/pb.136186023209230.-2207520000.1408732660./246640855497079/?type=3&theater

Point is mr Mand5 is proud of the perceived non-failure of his faith but it has been documented that they (the people at the top) have done repugnant things such as diverting river water and denying existing settlements of their right to clean fresh water ...and this is not considered illegal ? obviously if my pind decided to do the same for our gurudwara we would be rounded up and disappeared so the conclusion is they have carte blanche from govt and police whether we like it or not. They do not have their own scriptures they have hijacked Guru ji to dupe the seekers of truth in fact they don't even know what they believe...and their leadership lineage is already split and disputed within their own ranks, they are NOT sikhs as they do not accept the writings of all Ten Gurus,Bhai Gurdas ji or any of our itihas. They are not to be trusted due to the cultish mentality,my Masi is also in their thrall she has swallowed their line of needing a human guru to explain the scriptures...it is so sad .

1. There is 1 Guru because there is 1 jot (light) not 11 Gurus as all are the same Jot which is Akal Purakh. 2. Our path has been FOR EVER as it is the path that all enlightened beings have taken throughout the ages. 3. Your Manmade religion hasn't flopped because it has and does serve the needs of government agencies and Hindu extremists to muddy the waters for honest Godfearing Sikhs so it has been supported by money and protection from those quarters. 4. I know about GGSK college and I'm sorry your folks didn't have the sense to move you out of there like I moved my son out , it was not a suitable environment for anyone wanting to be faithful to sikhi and keep gurroop. 5. if you believe that school was a good example to base your views of sikhi on , I'm sorry but you were misled 6. You have no hope because Your GURU can't save you and help you to get home to God ... I'm sorry for you, but have the feeling you came here to stir up bad feeling and are enjoying it 7. Our beej mantar WAHEGURU is a mahamantar as it contains the essence of all four mantars of the four yugs of man.... you have not spoken of your mantars so I cannot engage with that conversation but it seems strange you don't want to share your wonderful path

Veer ji , when you buying your cow ? :biggrin2: I'd love a picture of your khetibardi...

look veer ji , It is not my say so but the true exercise of my religion that says so ..your wife is not amritdhari so maybe she doesn't do things in a sikh way but a mixed way but the truth is you really got the wrong end of this and blew up ... I am happy being Sikh and you Hindu ...I don't stop you doing your thing but don't preach to me about seeking power whatever ...you don't know Sikhi and you don't show me you accept it in your wife ...but never mind be happy confusing yourself by believing your are a accepting person..

she sacrificed her dreams ? how is that even equality then ...maybe you pray to a number of Gods via pictures but SIkhs do not , it seems you have converted her to your way of doing things and I'm guessing if and when the Kids come along you would have real objections if they rejected your path and chose to become Amritdhari Singhs or Singhnian. Guru Nanak Dev ji rejected outright the premises of the caste system and all rituals of hinduism including tirath, fasts, ganga bathing, rakshabandan, sindoor, charva chauth , murti or tasveer puja, hom /havan, pati parmeshwar even pheri around agni for marriage so how you are managing with a straight face to claim that there is equipoise in the religious situation in your home is strange to me. Sikhs are not meant to do the activities I have listed and I feel that your family and yourself would expect your wife to do some if not all of these things...so no Guru Nanak Dev ji would not be happy about her being constricted this way. J

next you'll be saying Naam jaapan di ki lodh aa ...jeh tuvnho kuch nahin patte dooje nu mat tokho. maha paap hunda kisse nu Waheguru nalon tordan maha pun hunda kisse nu Waheguru naal jordan. Sant ji di upma jeh koe kare ja karena chounda it is understandable oh keh crore-an pattaran vichon ik heera see

Sorry by Dal Khalsa I actually meant Nihangs from Tarna Dal and Buddha Dal 5th Takht in reality ... I don't recognise how the name associated with one has been stolen by choli chuks

weapons without training are as good as nothing in the least or can be turned on the unskilled holder at the worst. I think hand to hand drills and martial arts training should be a part of every Gurdwara. But knowing these SGPC giddars they would probably put there big noses in and get our Bhai beta arrested or attacked to keep us down . Time to call in Dal Khalsa to train the youths and men .

Thing is a lot of our literature which is of highest quality is not being reproduced by OUR printing presses the congress/SAD controlled SGPC is directing what is or is not being released to us the SIkh community ...we need to reprint all the old pothis and granths and disseminate them after our Gursikh bretheren have seen if it is intact and in keeping with seena baseena knowledge of Buddha dal and Tarna Dal . Guru Nanak Dev ji lived a grihst jeevan although he was away for long periods he still made sure his family was cared for . As did all of the Gurus who were of age , there are no tales of deception of wives or abandonment as there are in Hindu epics . Those who didn't wish the Gurus well are noted as part of our history and their motives are spoken of . When I tell my kids the saakhis they are allowed to ask anything they like and I will answer them as best as I can in the truth e.g. Did Guru Nanak's family miss him? ...sure just you would miss your Mum or Dad but they knew he was doing something important so they were understanding. It must have been hard but they had their Mum and Grandparents around to help them. Mum I feel like getting a kirpan and killing all the muslims for hurting and killing the chotte Sahibzahidey ! Betay(twins 6yrs) we fight Evil people as Sikhs not religions, those muslim people at that time were Evil who did this and now they are gone, but your job is to be good and strong believe in Sikhi and fight against evil no matter where it comes from. Mum do you believe miracles can happen? well Gurbani says we all have God inside us ...when we follow Gurbani and live truthfully slowly we become closer to our true selves and when that happens we see small glimpses of Guru ji's power in and around us but we are not meant to get distracted by it because we really want to be totally with Waheguru so we don't have to go through so many lifetimes away from him ...we can go home finally.

`My point was why not support the schools and colleges which are definitely pro- us instead feeding these kind of places who eat our money then deny us at the last minute on flimsy excuses. At least I know that if I did support apne schools that would open up more places for other Sikh children too ... why not have sikh unis in every state , and what's to say we can't have the best schools it's about the staff and their calibre. There is a brain drain from Punjab and the Government keeps shutting down schools and colleges there for our youth why not try to do something about it instead of running away from 'the sinking ship'

Honestly Bj Veer ji, you confuse me often as to what your need is ... is it to disprove everybody else's sharda and bhavna towards sikhi however naively it may have started or expressed or you just like posting things to make yourself happy you started a controversy... The veer may have learned something in his youth which he is now repeating , so advise him what the truth is ...instead of this

No veer ji , the poster states it is being held on playing fields ....much ado about nothing

Unless sikhs go to sikh universities instead of giving their hard earned money to Hindu biased universities and colleges...

The attackers of Dasam Bani should be treated as agents of the enemy even if from within Sikh ranks , if Any Sikh scholar starts kintu prantu over Khalsa rehit, Amrit Shakna those can be labelled the same ..Sehajdhari Sikh di arth seega jehde dooje mazhab 'chon nikli te sikhi kabool kitta per hale sikh rehit seek reha han Khalsa nahin...hun ta eh misuse hoe reha hai ke koe mona, sharabi kababi apne ap nu sikh akk sakhda bina gurmat anusar jeevan chalounda ... ehde kartootan sadi kaum de naam gutter'ch rol ditte

incompetent autocue board reader surrounded by his mates from the local pagalkhanna? :biggrin2:

You are just like the dumb RE teachers who preach sikhi to my kids and missionaries who come knocking who tell me kids your Guru killed goats in a tent .... you would have us diminish Sikhi by denying that Guru ji was capable to bring the dead to life , that he can create supermen from the downtrodden ....but that serves no-one. You and this author should abandon the idea that our children are downright dumb to not understand what the meaning is of what people say and do. My children asked me deep questions about death when they were four (no one had died BTW) , they understood the compassion of eating vegetarian food as opposed to eating maas for pleasure without my telling them better than some grown ups I know. You forget they came into this world connected to Waheguru they are still connected until we break them from Akal Purakh's hukam and join them to maya. They know because I have told them the sakhis that Waheguru acted in each and every case that the Gurus are Waheguru ji messengers and show us how Waheguru ji wants us to act and be and this is important how much Waheguru loves us and wants to help us when we are troubled. I have always told them Their true parent is Waheguru I'm just their carer here until they are old enough and they appreciate that , we have a different relationship and that allows them to talk about spiritual/ emotional stuff easier. They know about other religions because we talk about it and they will come home and tell me when their teachers try to tell others Sikhi is a mixture religion or offshoot or even when they were told they were wrong for believing Guru Gobind Singh ji did take the heads of the panj pyarey it was all a trick . Rightly they defend their faith and we should not chicken out when challenged but stand up to this revisionist BS. I personally believe their heads were taken in full view of sangat, and i believe GUru ji did bring them back otherwise people in the tens of thousands would not have been inspired to become Khalsa and the fact that there is Mughal spy's eye witness account of that day and he signs off saying he's going to take amrit too.

True but everyone can picture Dashmesh Pita ji in their mind's eye straight away

Being AMritdhari will put your mind into an advantageous position as you will have mental discipline over your five chor which can tip you over in battle to being reckless and therefore dangerous to yourself . Being a shasterdhari surely means being the best warrior you can be ...and I believe that history has shown that having amrit is an definite plus.

Dashmesh Pita di bani lokan ne chadia es karke kamzori peh ge.British sanoo 'peaceful' label laa ke sikhan nu avdi itihass te asliat toun ko sau door kita . This suited them to make us easy to control ...now hindu sikh bhai bhai ....is pushing us towards being swallowed up by these hindustan for hindus types." wake up" is the battle cry now sadda koe nah beli ... sare sanoo katam karana chaunda han.

Veer ji the link doesn't work but I'm posting an article about Bana...it is clear that it is more than a fashion, it is a mindset where you give all of yourself to Guru Granth and Guru Panth no reservations ...so logically if you hold back your head you are not in the mindset required http://www.sikhnet.com/news/neela-bana-blue-uniform-nihang-singh

Guru Gobind Singh ji da Puttar should be respected and called by his full name as is Sikh maryada. Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru JI ki Fateh Tajinder Singh ji

Jon Snow eye witness No sikhi should stand with the innocents and Jon

if the ajnalis want a proper target go to schools like and sort out the cowards who torture children for saying Guru's Fateh to another Gursikh. I would even ask the teacher what the hell was he thinking couldn't he have said something gently in class did he have to send him to principal?

Then I guess the answer is even more simple ...yes :biggrin2: