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NaamTiharoJoJape

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  1. its wierd how incoherent and weird the nihang akali panth's history gets, wish it was recorded better whats up with budha dal nowadays, does anyone know who's the jathedar now? i've heard some call baba Maan Singh guru nanak dal wale the panth paatshah meanwhile others baba joginder singh raqbe wale
  2. Does anybody know which banis are present in this pothi?
  3. yo I randomly remembered the other figure to received amrit at the hands of baba bir singh naurangabad in panj pyare one is of course bhai maharaj singh, other one I was talking about is baba khem singh bedi (highly controversial man lol)
  4. the sgpc rehat maryada is pretty strong as a baseline except for the fact they cut our "kirpaa karo ham par jagmata...dookh na tisai biapat joee" from benti chaupai daas still salty about that ?
  5. Haha sant jee did it without going into any samadhi Guru ke premi singh do not get entangled in worldy miracles and shows of maya
  6. any updates on dasam bani katha by brahm gianni sant gurbachan singh jee bhindranwale
  7. I can't even fathom such a habit or shaunk having pearls crushed into your drink, like why would you do that? don't know whether to laugh or pity
  8. they never used to ridh sidh however simply akaal purakh did not let any hot wind even touch guru sahib ; and witchcraft and ridhiya sidhiya against them fell apart lol
  9. yeah about naunihal singh being called chuhr singh by his mother, it might be out of adoration lol that some scholar misinterpret as contempt dug up some history, and maharaja ranjit singh's nanaji's nanaji was apparently named chuhr singh he was a bhullar jat of mandi, who married off his daughter agan to sardar sukh chain (son of tilokha, grandson of chaudry phul, therefore a cousin of baba ala singh phulkian) that couple had three sons, all which had their geneologies and sardaris, of which raja gajpat singh became ruler of jind and married off his daughter raaj kaur to sardar charhat singh's son sardar maha singh, and she bore maha singh a son who we all know so chuhr singh might not even be a bad rep, maybe he started sweeping the floor as a child or something lol and he started getting called chuhr singh I am sure she held her son dear since her husband kharak singh was so wack of a addict to opium
  10. as far as this neech can understand waheguru is the name of kartar/akaal purakh/paarbrahm by which we do remembrance/naam jaap all rest are descriptive generic terms, that folks adhering to other theologies use for their own devi devte like gopal means lord of the universe, raam means all pervading, hari is the sustainer (one who brings hariali aka life/greenery), kartar is creater, thakur is master, and other terms like sada siv, mahakaal are also used etc. now hindus of different shaiv, vaishnav, brahman matts etc. believe krishna to be gopal, raam chandra ji to be raam, krishna to be hari, sada siv and mahakaal are attributed to mahadev/mahesh/rudra dev, paarbrahm to brahma but naming your child after a Godly quality doesnt exclusively make them an avtar or something, I am sure there are many hari singhs, gopal singhs, raam singhs, bishan singhs, kishan singhs, gobind singhs, that arent so same goes for arabic names of God meeaning different things
  11. that one is recent, 19th century giani gian singh wanted to elaborate further on the legitimacy of guru granth sahib jee maharaj being bestowed the gurgaddi and completely disavow all dehdhari shenanigans, so he changed the guru khalsa part as well
  12. 100% war often simply has employed soldiers on both ends that do not know each other but the masands were under jurisdiction of guru ka darbar if the masands had really been raping women, then I have not any doubt that guru sahib couldnt order a rightful end to their journey as a mortal
  13. i think that is bhai nand lal ji's rehitnama that says sikhs did japji and jaap before eating and drinking in morning and yeah please do give keemtee vichar soon
  14. supposedly, we get breaks during which we can use for things you mentioned and we have time at home as well, why allocate the time we have school to things we can best do in private
  15. Everyones moral compass is different, and everyones moral priorities are different. Kindness, forgiveness, and all that is good but the eradication of discrimination and tyranny would be more important (although one can argue the former qualities are integral to achieving these, but more people would agree that killing someone is far bigger moral issue than having to greet your neighbor everyday) These things are up to the individual, you get what I mean
  16. But schools cannot administrate any of that unless you want to send your kids to a certain school It begins in the family Do what you want with your kids regarding their education (home school, sikh institution, etc.) But dont expect the public education system to implement a curriculum to accommodate any specific community, you get what I mean?
  17. Isnt that one super controversial There are folks who says it's an product of 19th century literature
  18. Any vichaar on authenticity of rehitnamay? From my personal point of view, I accept bhai nand lal jis rehitnama to be of greatest authenticity, and perhaps bhai daya singh rehitnama following but I am not sure of any rehitnama other than bhai nand lal ji Any thoughts on rehitname by bhai desa singh, bhai chaupa singh, bhai sahib singh, bhai prahlad singh? Any others I am missing?
  19. perhaps but dal panth is in disarray right now
  20. yeeah and baba mohan is more infamous for the "baba mohan valian pothian" (sometimes called goindvaal wali pothi") sakhi where he refused to give up the historic pothi during sewa of adi granth prakash was going on under agvaahi of guru arjan dev sahib paatshah
  21. honestly I sympathize with some of the regulators in that any domestic terrorist can simply grow a beard and tie a turban they should also require people claiming to be amritdhari to read panj bania or something like that if the sikh is strict about kirpan rehit, should be strict on nitnem as well so it makes sense lol
  22. its literally operated by 3ho lol I use it sometimes, but as a very last resort and not as much over past two-three years
  23. never heard of guru sahib being stuck composing sukhmani sahib, that is pure garbage of a thought as if they just sat down to write stuff according to what they wanted, dhur ki bani comes from paarbrahm kartar nobody said japji sahib is rough, its just different in terms of metre according to some folks that thing you said about mool mantar being exposition of ik oankaar, and japji sahib of mool mantar, etc., that same thing was preached by bhajan yogi (I agree with him even if I am not a fan of his character) its not just sikhiwiki, that was just an example and I have heard both sides on several websites and sikhnet and sikhdharma, the hubs of 3HO, actually ascribe the salok to guru nanak furthermore, there is a long list of references on sikhiwiki page on guru angad dev ji that you can check, and sikhiwiki references its page on guru angad's bani to this website by some harpreet singh... guruangaddev (google.com) in all honesty, all of gurbani in guru granth sahib is in ekaagarta and ekta, as all guru sahiban at all times were fully jaani-jaan and gianee of all of the bani but different gurus did prakash of certain bani at certain times throughout the course of two centuries, this argument over japji sahib salok makes no difference and nobody needs to get offended but I can you get me some references to it being referred to as mahala 1, that would be helpful jio the link you sent me was very helpful, Sri Granth: Sri Guru Granth Sahib the salok is ascribed within guru maharaj's saroop, vrajman in majh ki vaar, as mehala 2; hence I find it more plausible that salok is of sri guru angad dev ji most sources like sggs academy (approved by all five thakts), nihung santhia uthankas, would agree that guru angad dev ji in the roop of bhai lehna was entrusted with the task of organizing the mala mantar for sikhs (following a dialogue between sikhs and sant ren ji)
  24. It was guru hargobind sahib ji who gave bhai gurditta ji I think I'm pretty sure baba Sri chand did not continue relations with 2nd or 3rd paatshahis unless I'm mistaken
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