Cant Anything be done

[naamsar]

i was just talking to my friend, he is studying to be a optican.

he went to a interview for placment and the guy said to him

i like it when Sikhs have short trimmed neat beards.... and i go in Sikhism its not allowed.... and he goes ur beard might tickle the patients, u should put ur patients b4 ur religion

then he said, by the way if u work for me, i wont pay u

can any legal action be taken, this happend in london u.k

[Guest Lohgarh Singh]

wjkk wjkf

singh u serious? thats out of order bro. i dnt reali know wat to do exept for call the police or the shere panjab to beat him up (im joking). arnt there any sikhs here in the sangat that know bout law? i know this is a form of discrimination and racism.

[*PO$H_ Da_PO$HY*]

YEH FOR SURE

REPORT TO THE POLICE OR TO SOME ANTI- RACISM ORGANIZATION OR SOMETHING

BUT I'M SURE WHATEVER YOU DO IT'LL BE IN YOUR FAVOUR

(SORRY IF THAT WASN'T HELPFULL ENOUGH)

[H4RPAL]

i was just talking to my friend, he is studying to be a optican.

he went to a interview for placment and the guy said to him

i like it when Sikhs have short trimmed neat beards.... and i go in Sikhism its not allowed.... and he goes ur beard might tickle the patients, u should put ur patients b4 ur religion

then he said, by the way if u work for me, i wont pay u

can any legal action be taken, this happend in london u.k

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Who was the interview with? is it a national association/franchise or an independent practicioner?

[anjaan]

ok so your friend is not fully qualified yet? maybe the interviewer was talking about not paying him on a work experience level, if your friend is willing to do that then that's ok then perhaps they can come to some sort of compromise i.e. tying up beard

AND/OR/BUT

as for the comment - definately racist, no way does your friend have to put his patients before his religion! so urge him to get in touch with national Sikh organisations; try sikh federation and maybe even workers unions.

[All-Info]

Shuda jst smacked him when he left work then say, "If you have a LONG beard, it cushions the blow!"

[sher_panjabi]

I advise the Veer Ji to contact the Sikh Federation who have specialist people in dealing with these situations:

SIKH FEDERATION (UK)

Tanglewood House

Pine Walk

Chilworth

Southampton

SO16 7HQ

Email: info@sikhfederation.com

jagtarkhalsa@yahoo.com

[buddasingh]

Tell your friend to get detailed notes on paper right away and date them. Tell him to update his dated notes as necc. Include everything said before and during. If there were any follow up discussions include those details. Were there any witnesses, note their names or note names of anyone he talked to afterward.

His school might have a placement officer or office who has published information on what is permitted in interviews and placements. He should find out if the professional association might not permit unpaid placements. I am assuming this is part of his certification.

Discrimination on the basis of religion is definitely not permitted. It is nothing short of complete idiocy to suggest his beard would interfere with patients. As far as specific contacts and steps, he should work with someone locally, preferably a sikh group such as suggested above by sher.

I am not sure as this is not my field but it seems at some level he may run into http://www.abdo.org.uk/aboutabdo/about.asp or http://www.abdo.org.uk He should familiarize himself with this organization and people involved. Perhaps a very influential and supportive faculty member he knows who respects sikhi is someone he will recognize. I would suggest contacting abdo if necc with assistance of sikh group or lawyers. It is also quite possible the optician that he ran into has friends on this board.

Tell your friend to stretch his beard everyday so it is long and beautiful. Tell him that his five year plan as an optician will be to get on the board of his professions governing organization and become president.