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Lol, i was walking round wid montyy and da police stopped me, cus of ma kirpann n dey said "y ya wwearing dat?" i said "cus of ma faith". Dey said "we agree wid dat but it needs t0 be concealed", and monty kept cussing them, and i nearly got in trouble

nehow i was wearin a 9 inch taksali kirpan. Are we allowed to wear 9inch ??

these las few weeks i bin havin trouble at skool and that coz of my kirpan

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WAHEGURUJIKAKHALSAWAHEGURUJIKIFATEH

Have you just recently began wearing a Kirpan? I'm asking this because you stated that in the last few weeks you have been having problems. And I'm surprised the police told you to conceal it, because then it is considred a 'concealed weapon'. From what i heard, in Canada we are supposed to wear our Kirpans so that they are visible (i know it sounds weird).

Anothere thing Kumi Singh...the way this 'monty' began cussing the cops...thats not right. We need to educate people, not give them attitude. To wear the Kirpan we must act loving to people, and educate them about our values, not going crazy on them, because i don't think their intentions are bad.

I have heard of kids in Canada who wear the Kirpan and act like a bunch of gangsters, and this is what leads to people trying to ban it. If we walked around with nimarta (humbleness) and love is just radiating from us, i don't think people will make a big deal. (i'm not saying anything directly to you Kumi Singh)...but to all the youth in general. We must act like Singhs/Singhnis...because we must remember one thing...WE ARE NOT BLACK!!! what do i mean?...we don't need to go around acting like thugs, and talking like thugs, and calling each other ni**ers. (i'm not saying all black people do this in any way) I see so many young Khalsas swearing and acting all hard, when we are actually supposed to be full of love and Nimarta. Just a humble benti.

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either way, whatever anyone begs.... surrey singh is right on... and it's good you're not backing down Kumi. Keep sticking your head up, and keep being proud of your kirpaan...

today, i went out.. and i only wear a 6 inch one in everyday life... i was biking, and on my way home from where i needed to go, the wind was against me,and was lifting my outer, button-up shirt... because it itches and is uncomfortable, i always wear my kirpaan on top of a tshirt.. so today, kirpaan on top of tshirt, and then button up shirt on top, but the buttons weren't done... so yeah..

biking home, wind was kinda swift, and blowing against me... and you could ssee my kirpaan easily.. i got maddd staresss from drivers hahaha.... i gave em my killer Japman Smile hahaha... pisses them off, but you shouldn't do anything else.... if you CAN be peaceful about it, you shuolud.

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check what the law says, some one told me once a 6" is accepted as a guy at uni was informed of this wen the security guard noticed him wearing in halls.

Or jst get a smaller gathra for school. Sounds bad BUT in school you kinda have to compromise. Even at work, tho i can wear my kirpans openly, no1 says nething, if i take of my jumper coz TOO hot, i wrap gathra around waste, not as im scared of what people might say or because im not allowed, its the fact that i cnt be bothered with the hassels of geting asked why i wear on the outside every 2 minutes (only singh in the company..)

Outside of wrk tho, always on the outside!

Schools and work places kinda act as the same thing, show a mutual respect to stay away from unnecasary hassel. just tighten gathra of use a kamarkasa (u love nihangs, adopt their maryada on this one too). Kamakasa wil secure it so it doesnt move around to much. Even police wont say nothin then unles they dnt like you as our boys generaly walk past with kukris etc on and no1 says nothin...

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Just some extracts for your info

"The Criminal Justice Act 1988 "exempts Sikhs from criminal prosecution on the grounds that the Kirpan is a religious article and Article 13 of the Treaty of Amsterdam 1999 and the Human Rights Act 1998 also protect the right of individuals to follow their chosen religion.""

The existing guidelines on School Security, drawn up by the Department in consultation with the Sikh community, point out the Kirpan is exempt under section 4 of the Offensive Weapons Act 1996 and state:

"Sikhs who have been initiated in a ceremony called Amrit Pahul are required to carry a Kirpan at all times. There is no age limit, but the child must be old enough to understand the significance of the ceremony. Children of primary school age have undergone the ceremony".

Part of the guidelines also make reference to "Sikhs believe that the Kirpan must be around eight inches long, with a five inch blade", which has provided sufficient flexibility to allow Sikh children to continue to practice their faith.

The guidelines also state: "The courts have ruled that Sikhs are a "racial group" for the purposes of the Race Relations Act 1976. A rule which operated to forbid the wearing of a Kirpan, or resulted in, for example, the exclusion of a pupil who insisted on wearing one, might be alleged to constitute unlawful indirect discrimination under section 17 of the Act".

TAKEN FROM A SIKHFEDERATION (UK) PRESS RELEASE

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Part of the guidelines also make reference to "Sikhs believe that the Kirpan must be around eight inches long, with a five inch blade", which has provided sufficient flexibility to allow Sikh children to continue to practice their faith.

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Thats what i meant!!

Thanks phenji for the qoutations!!

(the blade is what i meant about 6")

WJKK WJKF

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