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Hello sangat this is my first post.

I had question about sikhism..

After marriage, Is it ok to have sex everday? Also, Is it wrong to be sexually active during marriage when it has no purpose (purpose: having a baby). ?

i dont want to be rude but this is what i wanted to know and i am sorry if i am asking the wrong question.

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Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh....

Well, after reading ur post, juz one thought strolled into my mind...Having sex EVERYDAY after marriage will surely leave u lusting for more, more and more,....n then how would u ever overcome kaam??? Kaam dunt neccesarily mean controlling lust b4 marriage...it applies later on too...U hv to keep in mind jio, tht ur spouse is not sum1 whoz meant to satisfy ur needs ONLY...shez pretty much ur life partner...n u ought to hv sum respect...plus, if u hv sex everyday, i bet tht while ur doin kirtan sohila, ie. b4 gng to bed, u will definetely be thinking of the stuff u r about to indulge in...tht disrupts ur dhiaan...thts all i can say..the rest is up to u...

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Fateh parvaan Ji

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I mean, Sex for pleasure.. is it appropriate, or should sex not be done, only when it is necessary, for example, when you want a child, you have sex. I want to know, is it wrong, to do it on a regular basis (normally) for simply a pleasure related purpose, than a need?

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I mean,  Sex for pleasure.. is it appropriate, or should sex not be done, only when it is necessary, for example, when you want a child, you have sex.  I want to know, is it wrong, to do it on a regular basis (normally) for simply a pleasure related purpose, than a need?

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Dont u go out n stroll on the beach for pleasure..dont u like icing on the cake for ur pleasure .dont u eat ur fav burger or pizza for ur pleasure ....dont u watch ur fav movie for pleasure..dont u listen to ur fav rok star or music for ur pleasure...if yes then wats wrong wid Sex dude...

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Gurfateh...

Im shocked at what DivineJourney said...U may have sex for pleasure?? Then how on earth will u ever overcome the 1st vice...ie Kaam (lust) ???? If u keep having sex everyday for the pleasure of it, the thought of sex will always be on ur mind...N u'll always be lusting for more n more...Its tht simple...However, if u can somehow wrestle wth kaam, then I'm juz amazed...Pleasures tht were mentioned by DivineJourney are pleasures which live the mind lusting only 4 a short term...However sex is an experience u go thru ....n it will DEFINETLY leave u lusting for more...its THT simple... Dnt associate Sikhi with normal earthly-pleasures..The question is about the kaam now...Thts all...

Hope u got my point...

Bhul Chuk Maaf...my 2 cents..

Gurfateh.

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Dont u go out n stroll on the beach for pleasure.. (lobh/moh)

dont u like icing on the cake for ur pleasure..(lobh/moh)

dont u eat ur fav burger or pizza for ur pleasure... (lobh/moh)

dont u watch ur fav movie for pleasure...(lobh/moh)

dont u listen to ur fav rok star or music for ur pleasure...(lobh/moh)

if yes then wats wrong wid Sex dude...(kaam)

There's something wrong with everything listed above. As Guru Nanak Sahib says:

http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=57

rsu GoVy rsu syjw mMdr rsu mITw rsu mwsu ]

ras ghorrae ras saejaa ma(n)dhar ras meet(h)aa ras maas ||

the pleasure of horses, the pleasure of a soft bed in a palace, the pleasure of sweet treats and the pleasure of hearty meals

eyqy rs srIr ky kY Git nwm invwsu ]2]

eaethae ras sareer kae kai ghatt naam nivaas ||2||

-these pleasures of the human body are so numerous; how can the Naam, the Name of the Lord, find its dwelling in the heart? ||2||

For the original starter of the topic:

Aihinis kwim ivAwipAw vxjwirAw imqRw AMDuly nwmu n iciq ]

ahinis kaam viaapiaa vanajaariaa mithraa a(n)dhhulae naam n chith ||

Day and night, you are engrossed in sexual desire, O my merchant friend, and your consciousness is blind to the Naam.

http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=185

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Hello sangat this is my first post.

I had question about sikhism..

After marriage,  Is it ok to have sex everday?  Also,  Is it wrong to be sexually active during marriage when it has no purpose (purpose: having a baby).  ?

i dont want to be rude but this is what i wanted to  know and i am sorry if i am asking the wrong question.

Discuss blush.gif

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Paaji/Penji

It Is Wrong!..........Increase of Kaam avastha in turn leading to

Decrease of PYAR FOR VAHEGURU

Deep Kaur Khalsa

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I dont agree here with Khalsa pajis using word 'Pleasure' here...i think there is no relationship between having a good life style and ur spiritual being..u can be religious while having allll world pleasures including sex..i think its a state of mind..it has nuffin to do that what kinda and how costly ur horse is and how costly ur bed is and how befultiul ur wife/hubby is and all that....and wat kinda clothes ur wear and all dat......

i dont think sikhi is against enjoying the worldly pleasure...its not a marg of tyagi (cowards)(read my signature)...its a marg of brave (gristhis).....u gotta live like Lotus in the mud...although Lotus gets the food from this mud (sansaar) but it always raised above this mud (its never OBSSESSED with it)

Dont u go out n stroll on the beach for pleasure.. (lobh/moh)

dont u like icing on the cake for ur pleasure..(lobh/moh)

dont u eat ur fav burger or pizza for ur pleasure... (lobh/moh)

dont u watch ur fav movie for pleasure...(lobh/moh)

dont u listen to ur fav rok star or music for ur pleasure...(lobh/moh)

if yes then wats wrong wid Sex dude...(kaam)

There's something wrong with everything listed above. As Guru Nanak Sahib says:

http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=57

rsu GoVy rsu syjw mMdr rsu mITw rsu mwsu ]

ras ghorrae ras saejaa ma(n)dhar ras meet(h)aa ras maas ||

the pleasure of horses, the pleasure of a soft bed in a palace, the pleasure of sweet treats and the pleasure of hearty meals

eyqy rs srIr ky kY Git nwm invwsu ]2]

eaethae ras sareer kae kai ghatt naam nivaas ||2||

-these pleasures of the human body are so numerous; how can the Naam, the Name of the Lord, find its dwelling in the heart? ||2||

For the original starter of the topic:

Aihinis kwim ivAwipAw vxjwirAw imqRw AMDuly nwmu n iciq ]

ahinis kaam viaapiaa vanajaariaa mithraa a(n)dhhulae naam n chith ||

Day and night, you are engrossed in sexual desire, O my merchant friend, and your consciousness is blind to the Naam.

http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=185

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waheguroo ji ka khalsa waheguroo ji ki fateh..veerji divine journey...well..you got the answer to the question..we are like lotus...as per Guru Nanak Dev Ji maharaj said..and may i ask you..you have sex...the whole time...well when ever you wan..then u think ur wiser than guru maharaj?cause guru maharaj said stay away from the 5 evil ones...and u here state that..its ok to have sex how many times u wan!...theres this sant ji..who said...if u wana have sex in 6 months time once..no prob...once a month...no prob...once a week..no prob..but if u still cant control...than ur not a sikh of the guru!y u think they said tht...n btw..y do u wan ahave so much sex ???sex is just to have for babaies...but if u cant control..well its ok...but u wana have sex like a lot of ttimes!...then whats the use!u cant concentrate on naam...can u?..bhul chuk maaaf..wjkk wjkf!

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waheguroo ji ka khalsa waheguroo ji ki fateh..veerji divine journey...well..you got the answer to the question..we are like lotus...as per Guru Nanak Dev Ji maharaj said..and may i ask you..you have sex...the whole time...well when ever you wan..then u think ur wiser than guru maharaj?cause guru maharaj said stay away from the 5 evil ones...and u here state that..its ok to have sex how many times u wan!...theres this sant ji..who said...if u wana have sex in 6 months time once..no prob...once a month...no prob...once a week..no prob..but if u still cant control...than ur not a sikh of the guru!y u think they said tht...n btw..y do u wan ahave so much sex ???sex is just to have for babaies...but if u cant control..well its ok...but u wana have sex like a lot of ttimes!...then whats the use!u cant concentrate on naam...can u?..bhul chuk maaaf..wjkk wjkf!

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First I feel that if v go overboard over the issue of sex then i guess its gonna surely create problem for us...n there is no need to put the sex into any kinda time frame that u can have once in a week or once in a month or once in a six week..then u will all the time wating for this 'Jugment day' only and count down will always there at the bak of our mind...lol....its sooo absurd...u eat when u feel like eating..u shud sleep when u feel sleepy dance when u feel like dancing...if u put it all these activites into a kinda of time frame then it gonna make our life hell...like even if u dont want to have food u go out n stuff ur tummy juss coz it TIME to eat ..same goes wid sex....have when u feel like...dont have wehn u dont feel likewise.... (SEHAJ rang rach raheaa)..u can go whole life without having sex(ahem ahem sounds bit harsh??) if u have understood the love....we all have made the phenomenon of sex a big taboo by goin overboard and deeming it someting 'extraordinary'...that where i guess things start to go wrong...if we deem sex as natural as laughing as natural as sleep as natural as ne other activity we do then i think things can be sorted out...neigher shud v look down upon the activity of sex nor shud we burden ourselves wid sex...full stop.

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I dont agree here with Khalsa pajis using word 'Pleasure' here...i think there is no relationship between having a good life style and ur spiritual being..u can be religious while having allll world pleasures including sex..i think its a state of mind..it has nuffin to do that what kinda and how costly ur horse is and how costly ur bed is and how befultiul ur wife/hubby is and all that....and wat kinda clothes ur wear and all dat......

i dont think sikhi is against enjoying the worldly pleasure...its not a marg of tyagi (cowards)(read my signature)...its a marg of brave (gristhis).....u gotta live like Lotus in the mud...although Lotus gets the food from this mud (sansaar) but it always raised above this mud (its never OBSSESSED with it)

u can be religious while having allll world pleasures including sex
i dont think sikhi is against enjoying the worldly pleasure

What can you possibly gain from repeated lust of your partner? You think orgasms are going to bring you closer to Vaheguru? Good luck "divine journey". I'm starting to wonder what you meant by "divine" journey.

Sex for pleasure; it is not a necessity. Food, rest and water are vital for our being. Sexual pleasure is a desire not a need, and we all know Sikhi promotes adopting a humble lifestyle. How could you possibly attain humble and respectful characteristics when you’re indulging in your partner? Your wife is not an activity that you can use and play with when you feel like it. He or she is your husband or wife. Maybe you should look up what a husband and wife is; I’ll even buy you the dictionary.

If Sikhi is against anything, it is against unnecessary pleasure, and unnecessary desire.

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Hello sangat this is my first post.

I had question about sikhism..

After marriage,  Is it ok to have sex everday?  Also,  Is it wrong to be sexually active during marriage when it has no purpose (purpose: having a baby).  ?

i dont want to be rude but this is what i wanted to  know and i am sorry if i am asking the wrong question.

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Kaam is an unatural attachment to sexual pleasure. If you mfeel you wish to have sex everyday then by all means cary on, BUT ask yourself this, are you becoming addicted to the pleasure associated with sex.

Is it controlling your life. Like a drug addict addicted to drugs, has sex become an addiction that cotrols your life, rather than you controlling sex.

To answer you question is it OK to be sexually active during marriage, even when a baby is not the end result then yes, but always bare in mind the sddictive nature of the 5 vices, and Kaam being one of them. :TH:

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I dont agree here with Khalsa pajis using word 'Pleasure' here...i think there is no relationship between having a good life style and ur spiritual being..u can be religious while having allll world pleasures including sex..i think its a state of mind..it has nuffin to do that what kinda and how costly ur horse is and how costly ur bed is and how befultiul ur wife/hubby is and all that....and wat kinda clothes ur wear and all dat......

i dont think sikhi is against enjoying the worldly pleasure...its not a marg of tyagi (cowards)(read my signature)...its a marg of brave (gristhis).....u gotta live like Lotus in the mud...although Lotus gets the food from this mud (sansaar) but it always raised above this mud (its never OBSSESSED with it)

u can be religious while having allll world pleasures including sex
i dont think sikhi is against enjoying the worldly pleasure

What can you possibly gain from repeated lust of your partner? You think orgasms are going to bring you closer to Vaheguru? Good luck "divine journey". I'm starting to wonder what you meant by "divine" journey.

Sex for pleasure; it is not a necessity. Food, rest and water are vital for our being. Sexual pleasure is a desire not a need, and we all know Sikhi promotes adopting a humble lifestyle. How could you possibly attain humble and respectful characteristics when you’re indulging in your partner? Your wife is not an activity that you can use and play with when you feel like it. He or she is your husband or wife. Maybe you should look up what a husband and wife is; I’ll even buy you the dictionary.

If Sikhi is against anything, it is against unnecessary pleasure, and unnecessary desire.

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Sinner dont be so harsh to judge.

Remeber food can be associated with Greedn (Lobh) which is on par with Kaam, as one of the 5 vices. So a necessity for food can become addiction, just like the necessity to have sex can become an addiction (which known as Kaam)

For example, I get real pleasure from eating White Channay, and cant get enough. That could easily turn into an obsession and greed if I don't control it. :TH:

you said

If Sikhi is against anything, it is against unnecessary pleasure, and unnecessary desire.

I would modify this and say that Sikhi is against the obsession with pleasure and desire not with the pleasure or desire itself. We may get a desire to read, or pleasure from exercise, but hen we become obsessed with these things and ignore all and sunder, then we are creating problems.

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raag soohee mehulaa 5 ghur 3

Raag Soohee, Fifth Mehl, Third House:

ik ounkaar sathigur prusaadh

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

mithun moh agan sok saagur

Attachment to sex is an ocean of fire and pain.

kar kirupaa oudhur har naagur

By Your Grace, O Sublime Lord, please save me from it. ||1||

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