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I understand that SALDEF and other Sikh advocacy groups in the USA have been contacted regarding this matter. It is vital that we allow them a chance to get into a dialogue with the owners of this site now. So, as before, keep perspective and if you e-mail, mail respectfully and politely. SALDEF are full of activists and lawyers and so forth, and as the website is based in the USA it is best for them to deal with it directly.

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Singh 987 on the other thread is doing us no favours with his intemperate attitude.

Look what has happened to the Muslims in the last few weeks all because hot heads lost their temper and made everything worse for Muslims including losing them the moral high ground.

For goodness sake calm down!

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I posted this on Tapoban:

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Remember what has happened to the Muslims in the UK recently. Let us be CALM and COOL and not fall into a trap that makes matters worse. Let SALDEF deal with it in the first instance and let us always remember that the world offers challenges to us and the Muslims give us examples of how NOT to respond to these challenges.

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Just wanted to say that some ppl might think playing cards is ok as long as it is not "gambling." But no, our Pita Ji, SatGuru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj told us in their Hukamnamay that "Guru Ka Sikh CANNOT play Cards." Maharaj didnt say just gambling, but any type of game with cards is not allowed for Sikhs. We are to do SEVA with our hands...not waste time playing cards. We are to do Simran - Swaas - Swaas...not waste time playing cards.

Please Sangat Jeeo, let's work together and make sure these ppl take off GURU JI's pic.

bhul chuk maaf karo Jee

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