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I am ashamed that Dalits ("untouchable" Hindhus) are converting to Christianity and Bhuddism (which is understandbale in non_sikh states) and yet they do not feel they cna belong to Sikhism, in e.g. Punjab and Haryana. This is an indictment against modern day Sikhs in applying our 1st Guru's teachings.

The Caste system is racial prejudice and snobbery at best, and at worse repression.

That's all I am qualified to say.

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it is sad that the very things our guru's told sikhs not to do are very very prevalent in sikhi today, especially in punjab.

caste system being one of them

guru kirpa kare

I agree. Most families whether in India or overseers have this problem. Women or men from India married into Sikh Families in UK or USA for e.g. bring with them this anti-gurmat nonsence.

Should there be banners/posters displayed in this villages, Punjabi Schools or in Gurdwara explaining the basic principals of Guru Nanak Ji's teachings.? [includes India and Overseers.]

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The dalits dont accept the Guru as a pure vessel????

GuruJi is not only the hugest treasure on Earth but also the insurance too.

its not a matter of seeing what gurji really is. its a matter of being treated equal. in other religions once you go through the initiation ceremony, you are considered "one of them" but NOOOO not in sikhi.

even after getting amrit shak they are not treated as equals. and its mostly the "older and wiser" people who say, so what if you have taken amrit, u caste is still the dalit one :D

kbIr myrI jwiq kau sBu ko hsnyhwru ]

kabeer maeree jaath ko sabh ko hasanaehaar ||

Kabeer, everyone laughs at my social class.

bilhwrI ies jwiq kau ijh jipE isrjnhwru ]2]

balihaaree eis jaath ko jih japiou sirajanehaar ||2||

I am a sacrifice to this social class, in which I chant and meditate on the Creator. ||2||

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I don't think it will make any difference in their lifestyle if they adopt a new label and start calling themselves Buddhist or Christian. The real difference comes when they win socially and economically which is nowhere to seen. They have hypocrite leaders to begin with. The great leader of their movement Mrs. Mayavati who was blind bashing tool of upper classes didn't have shame to shook hands with communities the ones she was bashing day & nights merely to get votes.

http://india.eu.org/2811.html

Dalits are victim of their own so called leaders who are ripping them off day and night.

Do you want to see what real Buddhist who are following Dharma with rules think of converted people?

http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/index.php?showtopic=24253

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Waheguroo jee ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo jee kee Fateh!

Well, until our OWN people (sikhs) stop using the caste system, why should we laud this as one of our virtues?

Our gurus banned it. 80% still use it. WTH!

Waheguroo jee ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo jee kee Fateh!

As sad, and disgusting as it sounds. I can't believe we do that, and call ourself Sikhs in the same sentence. wacko.gif

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