Rehit?

[Guest s133k_s1kh]

this makes me sad

guru kirpa karey

Papi you stay out of this :D ...tere bahli khaj hundi aa

[The Khalsa Fauj]

Anyways, I am out. I got a lot of work to do.

Naanak Unday Seo Kya Kahee-aye Kahay Naa Kaheyaa Boojay!

ਨਾਨਕ ਅੰਧੇ ਸਿਉ ਕਿਆ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਹੈ ਨ ਕਹਿਆ ਬੂਝੈ ॥

नानक अंधे सिउ किआ कहीऐ कहै न कहिआ बूझै ॥

naanak anDhay si-o ki-aa kahee-ai kahai na kahi-aa boojhai.

O Nanak, what can be said to the blind people? They cannot answer, or even understand what is said. ----- 1289

[Guest Papi]

Papi you stay out of this :D ...tere bahli khaj hundi aa

yaar o last post sigi. bus. hun mai thak gaya inna nu samjha samjha key.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਕਛੁ ਸੂਝੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਚਤੁਰੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ਪਾਂਡੇ ॥

गिआनु धिआनु कछु सूझै नाही चतुरु कहावै पांडे ॥

gi-aan Dhi-aan kachh soojhai naahee chatur kahaavai paaNday.

You know nothing of spiritual wisdom and meditation, even though you call yourself clever, O religious scholar.

ਪਉੜੀ ॥

पउड़ी ॥

pa-orhee.

Pauree:

ਹਉ ਕਿਆ ਆਖਾ ਇਕ ਜੀਭ ਤੇਰਾ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਕਿਨ ਹੀ ਪਾਇਆ ॥

हउ किआ आखा इक जीभ तेरा अंतु न किन ही पाइआ ॥

ha-o ki-aa aakhaa ik jeebh tayraa ant na kin hee paa-i-aa.

What can I say with only one tongue? I cannot find your limits.

ਸਚਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ਸੇ ਤੁਝ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥

सचा सबदु वीचारि से तुझ ही माहि समाइआ ॥

sachaa sabad veechaar say tujh hee maahi samaa-i-aa.

Those who contemplate the True Word of the Shabad are absorbed into You, O Lord.

So I will not do 2 hours of jaap of 1 word when Gurbani says to contemplate on Guru Shabad. Those who are lazy to read Gurbani can do whatever they want.

Maybe you didn't know but sikligars have been jupping Satnaam since Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji went to give them updais. The word Waheguru was not used before Bhutts so there was no jupping of Waheguru before that.

[Guest Papi]

gauVI cyqI

gourree chaethee

Gauree Chaytee:

<> siqgur pRswid ]

ik oa(n)kaar sathigur prasaadh ||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

hir jsu sunih n hir gun gwvih ]

har jas sunehi n har gun gaavehi ||

They do not listen to the Lord's Praises, and they do not sing the Lord's Glories,

bwqn hI Asmwnu igrwvih ]1]

baathan hee asamaan giraavehi ||1||

but they try to bring down the sky with their talk. ||1||

AYsy logn isau ikAw khIAY ]

aisae logan sio kiaa keheeai ||

What can anyone say to such people?

jo pRB kIey Bgiq qy bwhj iqn qy sdw frwny rhIAY ]1] rhwau ]

jo prabh keeeae bhagath thae baahaj thin thae sadhaa ddaraanae reheeai ||1|| rehaao ||

You should always be careful around those whom God has excluded from His devotional worship. ||1||Pause||

Awip n dyih curU Bir pwnI ]

aap n dhaehi churoo bhar paanee ||

They do not offer even a handful of water,

iqh inMdih ijh gMgw AwnI ]2]

thih ni(n)dhehi jih ga(n)gaa aanee ||2||

while they slander the one who brought forth the Ganges. ||2||

bYTq auTq kuitlqw cwlih ]

bait(h)ath out(h)ath kuttilathaa chaalehi ||

Sitting down or standing up, their ways are crooked and evil.

Awpu gey Aaurn hU Gwlih ]3]

aap geae aouran hoo ghaalehi ||3||

They ruin themselves, and then they ruin others. ||3||

Cwif kucrcw Awn n jwnih ]

shhaadd kucharachaa aan n jaanehi ||

They know nothing except evil talk.

bRhmw hU ko kihE n mwnih ]4]

brehamaa hoo ko kehiou n maanehi ||4||

They would not even obey Brahma's orders. ||4||

Awpu gey Aaurn hU Kovih ]

aap geae aouran hoo khovehi ||

They themselves are lost, and they mislead others as well.

Awig lgwie mMdr mY sovih ]5]

aag lagaae ma(n)dhar mai sovehi ||5||

They set their own temple on fire, and then they fall asleep within it. ||5||

Avrn hsq Awp hih kWny ]

avaran hasath aap hehi kaa(n)nae ||

They laugh at others, while they themselves are one-eyed.

iqn kau dyiK kbIr ljwny ]6]1]44]

thin ko dhaekh kabeer lajaanae ||6||1||44||

Seeing them, Kabeer is embarrassed. ||6||1||44||

[Singh132]

GuruShabad is singular because only Bani parvaan by Guru Ji is Guru. You have understood that when there is aukarh, it is singular so that is good. Your defintion of naam is different from mine. Your definition of naam is 1 word. My naam is all of Gurbani. What is better? One word of Gurbani?

Your interpretation doesn't make any sense. GurShabad can only be ONE word. If it was all of Bani it had to be plural.

As for Fareed, it is Sheikh Fareed not Farid Sani. Show me one Gurbani tuk where he says Farid Saani? Also the Farid Saani you talk about, his name was Sheikh Brahm (Ibrahim).

All Sakhis and Nanak Parkash mention Guru Nanak Dev Ji meeting Sheikh Brahm.

All the Guru Sahibs in bani use "Nanak". Same way the descendants of Farid used "Farid". Simple answer.

The following is a more detailed answer for you:

Even the present head of Baba Farid Jee’s spiritual order Prof. Khalil Nizami says the bani in Guru Granth Sahib Jee is that of Farid Sani. Bhai Vir Singh Jee, Prof. Teja Singh Jee, and Budh Singh all agree to this opinion that the Bani written in Guru Granth Sahib jee is that of Farid Sani the contemporary of Guru Nanak Dev Jee, and not Baba Farid the Afghan who lived during the 12th century.

The proof of Baba Farid Jee meeting Guru Nanak Dev Jee is his Bani. Fareed Jee writes:

JO GUR DASAY WAATH MUREEDA JOLEA|| (Asa sheikh farid 477)

KAR KIRPA PRAB SAADHSANG MELEE|| (Farid soohi 794)

Muslim sufis never use words such as Gur, Saadh or "Prabh". According to a book written by Prof. Khalil Nizami spiritual head of Baba Farid Jee’s spiritual order these words were written by Farid Sani because he was heavily influenced by Guru Nanak Dev jee, this is confirmed by the writer of "Swanay Farid".

Proof from Janamsakhis, then ponder on the following Janamsakhi which mentions Guru Jee meeting with Farid Jee:

SRI GURU BABA AUTHOU CHALIA|

RAAVI CHANOU DEKH KAR AUJARH PAI CHALIA|

PATTAN DESH AIE NIKALIA|

PATTAN TO KOS TIN AUJARH THI, AUTHAY AIE BAITHAA|

MARDANA NAAL AAHA, PATTAN DHA PIR SHEIKH FARID THA TISKAY TAKHT SHEIKH BRAM (IBRAHIM) THA| (Puraatan Janam Sakhi)

-Besides this Janamsakhi, another Janamsakhi by the name of “Meherban Vali Janamsakhi” tells of a story of when Baba Farid jee once went to collect wood and there he also ran into Guru Nanak Dev Jee reciting the following Gurbani Tukhs:

APAY PATTEE KALAM AAP, UPAR LEKH BHI THU||

EKO KAHIAE NANAKAA, DOOJA KAHAY KOO|| (Malar dhi vaar M: 1 -1291)

-Another Janamsakhi which is now safely at Guru Nanak Dev University taken from the UK also mentions a meeting between Guru Nanak Dev Jee and Baba Farid jee.

-Another Janamasakhi, Bhai Mani Singh Jee vali Janamsakhi mentions a meeting between Guru Nanak Dev Jee and Baba Farid Jee.

I have given names of four different Janamsakhis all mentioning Baba Farid jee meeting with Guru Nanak Dev Jee.

1) All Pakistani scholars agree that this Baba Farid jee did not write any baani at all. He was not a poet.

2) He was not a native of Punjab and as such could not have written such purely native countryside Punjabi. It is like asserting that Shakespeare was not English but a German writer. A non-English person could not have written what Shakespeare wrote. Same way, a non-Punjabi could not have written the kind of Punjabi that is in Gurbani under Baba Farid jee name.

3) The Punjabi used in Baba Farid jee’s baani in Siri Guru Granth Sahib jee is of the same time as Guru Nanak Sahib jee. All linguistics agree to this. If this baani had been written 300 years before Siri Guru Nanak Dev jee, it would have been drastically different. Just compare the Punjabi written today to Punjabi of Siri Guru Gobind Singh jee’s times.

4) Farid Shakarganj i.e. the Senior Farid, was a staunch Muslim who converted thousands of Hindus to Islam. He was very strict in Sharia and he would have never used non-Islamic words like “Saadh” in his baani.

Now the question arises that if the baani in Siri Guru Granth Sahib jee was not written by Baba Farid Shakarganj then who is the writer of this baani? The answer is very simple. As written in the Janamsaakhis, the writer of this baani was Farid Saani, who was sitting on the gaddi of the original Farid. His name was Sheikh Ibrahim but he was also known as Farid Saani and it was he who met Siri Guru Nanak Dev jee Maharaaj.

It is this Sheikh Ibrahim, whose spiritual thirst was quenched by Siri Guru Nanak Dev jee. He wrote the following shabad to Siri Guru Nanak Dev jee:

soohee lalith ||

baerraa ba(n)dhh n sakiou ba(n)dhhan kee vaelaa ||

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bhar saravar jab ooshhalai thab tharan dhuhaelaa ||1||

hathh n laae kasu(n)bharrai jal jaasee dtolaa ||1|| rehaao ||

eik aapeenhai pathalee seh kaerae bolaa ||

dhudhhaa thhanee n aavee fir hoe n maelaa ||2||

kehai fareedh sehaeleeho sahu alaaeaesee ||

ha(n)s chalasee ddu(n)manaa ahi than dtaeree thheesee ||3||2||

This shabad of Baba Farid jee portrays the thirst of Baba jee very clearly. He is literally begging for spirituality. In response to this shabad, Siri Guru Nanak Dev jee wrote the following shabad:

soohee mehalaa 1 ||

jap thap kaa ba(n)dhh baerrulaa jith la(n)ghehi vehaelaa ||

naa saravar naa ooshhalai aisaa pa(n)thh suhaelaa ||1||

thaeraa eaeko naam ma(n)jeet(h)arraa rathaa maeraa cholaa sadh ra(n)g dtolaa ||1|| rehaao ||

saajan chalae piaariaa kio maelaa hoee ||

jae gun hovehi ga(n)t(h)arreeai maelaegaa soee ||2||

miliaa hoe n veeshhurrai jae miliaa hoee ||

aavaa goun nivaariaa hai saachaa soee ||3||

houmai maar nivaariaa seethaa hai cholaa ||

gur bachanee fal paaeiaa seh kae a(n)mrith bolaa ||4||

naanak kehai sehaeleeho sahu kharaa piaaraa ||

ham seh kaereeaa dhaaseeaa saachaa khasam hamaaraa ||5||2||4||

He cries that “bhar Sarvar jabb uchhalai, tabb taran dulela” but Guru Baba jee says “Na sarvar na uchhalai, aisa panth suhela”. He says that his spiritual path is very hard but Siri Guru jee says that the Gurmat path is very easy and full of bliss.

He says "BeRa bandh na sakhiyo" Siri Guru jee says, "Jap tap ka bandh beRla". He says that he has not been able to build his ship to swim across this ocean of world. Siri Guru jee says that if he has not build it yet, then he can now build the ship of Jap-Tap. What a great shabad Siri Guru jee's is! Just amazing. This shabad is most beautiful. I wish some gursikh sing this shabad and I may just listen to it till eternity.

Just compare the two shabads and no one can deny that one was written in response to the other one.

After hearing Siri Guru jee’s shabad, Farid Saani jee became disciple of Guru Nanak Paatshaah. There is no doubt about it. Sirii Guru jee and he met 3 times in total.

You still didn't answer the question about Nagar Kirtans and plates and glasses and the use of doonas.

I did answer but you didn't bother reading it. You are from India. In big gatherings do they give out Doonas to everyone? Do they give plates and glasses to everyone? Of course not. You get a parshada and you put the food on top of it. Other things you get in your cupped hand. It's not a very difficult problem to resolve.

[Singh132]

Papi,

If you don't like debates, then no one is compelling you to sit here and read. There is nothing wrong in discussing Gurmat. If you don't like it, don't read. Simple.

"Khalsa" Fauj,

In the shabad "Gur Satgur ka jo Sikh akhai" why does Guru Sahib first say "so bhalkai uth har naam dhiavai" and then "fir charai divas gurbani gaavai". Why does Guru Sahib make a distinction? It is good to read Gurbani. But Gurbani does updesh to jap naam as well.

You said,

So I will not do 2 hours of jaap of 1 word when Gurbani says to contemplate on Guru Shabad. Those who are lazy to read Gurbani can do whatever they want.

Then you are not willing to follow Bani. Tell me what the following shabds mean if not to put the ONE word ie Gurmantar in the mind:

ਸਲੋਕੁ ॥

ਆਏ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਰਨਾਗਤੀ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਨਿਧਿ ਦਇਆਲ ॥

ਏਕ ਅਖਰੁ ਹਰਿ ਮਨਿ ਬਸਤ ਨਾਨਕ ਹੋਤ ਨਿਹਾਲ ॥੧॥

EK akhar. ONE Word.

And once again:

ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਭਿ ਸਾਸਤ ਇਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਪੜਿਆ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥

ਏਕੁ ਅਖਰੁ ਜੋ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਜਾਪੈ ਤਿਸ ਕੀ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਸੋਈ ॥੩॥

ਖਤ੍ਰੀ ਬ੍ਰਾਹਮਣ ਸੂਦ ਵੈਸ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਚਹੁ ਵਰਨਾ ਕਉ ਸਾਝਾ ॥

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪੈ ਉਧਰੈ ਸੋ ਕਲਿ ਮਹਿ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਮਾਝਾ ॥੪॥੩॥੫੦॥

EK akhar again. Which ONE word is this if not naam ie. Gurmantar.

When Gurbani talks about Gurmantar what is it talking about?

[The Khalsa Fauj]

If you look at that tukh and go past the aik ukhar line, you will see updais chau burnaa kao saanja.

Updais is the Shabad. It is not wise to use one line to justify something. Whole Shabad has to be read.

Aarth done by Prof. Sahib Singh is the same. Did he even mention jaap of one word when doing aarth?

Again, your doing the aarth of aik properly but can't go deeper than that. You must go deeper.

What is that aiku akhar? Gurbani. Gurbani the the word. Guru Ji has placed aunkar so that brhamans don't fool Sikhs and get them to start jupping one word from their books.

ਸਲੋਕੁ ॥

ਆਏ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਰਨਾਗਤੀ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਨਿਧਿ ਦਇਆਲ ॥

ਏਕ ਅਖਰੁ ਹਰਿ ਮਨਿ ਬਸਤ ਨਾਨਕ ਹੋਤ ਨਿਹਾਲ ॥੧॥

Here there is no aunkar. So do there is more than one 1? No. Here the same thing applies. Aikh Akhur (AKaal Shabad).

Lets see arrth done by other vidvaans.

Bhai Manmohan Singh.

Slok My Merciful Master the Ocean of Compassion I have entered Thine sanctuary. Nanak, he in whose mind the Unique Imperishable Lord abides becomes mightily pleased. Pauri.

Prof. Sahib Singh.

ਅਰਥ: ਹੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ! ਹੇ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਦੇ ਖ਼ਜ਼ਾਨੇ! ਹੇ ਦਿਆਲ! ਅਸੀ ਤੇਰੀ ਸਰਨ ਆਏ ਹਾਂ। ਹੇ ਨਾਨਕ! (ਆਖ) ਜਿਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਮਨ ਵਿਚ ਇਕ ਅਵਿਨਾਸ਼ੀ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਵੱਸਦਾ ਰਹਿੰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦਾ ਮਨ ਸਦਾ ਖਿੜਿਆ ਰਹਿੰਦਾ ਹੈ ॥੧॥

Faridkoat wala teekah

ਜੋ ਪੁਰਸ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕੇ ਸਮੁੰਦ੍ਰ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਕੀ ਸਰਣਿ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤਿ ਭਏ ਹੈਂ ਏਕ (ਅਖਰੁ) ਨਾਸ ਤੇ ਰਹਿਤ ਹਰੀ ਦਯਾਲੂ ਤਿਨ ਕੇ ਮਨ ਮੈਂ ਬਸਤਾ ਹੈ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਹਤੇ ਹੈਂ ਵਹੁ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ (ਨਿਹਾਲ) ਨਿਰਦੁਖ ਹੋਤੇ ਭਏ ਹੈਂ ਵਾ ਹਰੀ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਤੀਪਾਦਕ ਜੋ ਬਾਵਨ ਅਖਰ ਕਥਨ ਕੀਏ ਹੈਂ ਇਨ ਬਾਵਨ ਅਖਰੋਂ ਮੈਂ ਸੇ ਏਕ ਅਖਰ ਕਾ ਉਪਦੇਸ ਕਰਕੇ ਜਿਸ ਪਰੁਸ ਕੇ ਮਨ ਮੈ ਹਰੀ ਬਸ ਜਾਵੈ ਸੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਨਿਹਾਲ ਹੋ ਜਾਤਾ ਹੈ॥੧॥

Sant Singh Khalsa

Shalok: O God, I have come to Your Sanctuary, O Merciful Lord, Ocean of compassion. One whose mind is filled with the One Word of the Lord, O Nanak, becomes totally blissful. ||1||

Doesn't mention anywhere to repeat one word.

God's word is Gurbani.

For the GurSatgur Ka Jo Sikh Akhaa-aye Shabad

Again, there is no mention of repeating one word. God can be remembered anyway.

I will only post aarth done by Prof. Sahib Singh. You check check the other ones yourself.

ਪਦਅਰਥ: ਭਲਕੇ = ਨਿੱਤ ਸਵੇਰੇ। ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਸਰਿ = ਨਾਮ ਰੂਪ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਦੇ ਸਰੋਵਰ ਵਿਚ। ਉਪਦੇਸਿ = ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ ਦੀ ਰਾਹੀਂ। ਕਿਲਵਿਖ = ਪਾਪ। ਸਾਸਿ = ਸਾਹ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ। ਗਿਰਾਸਿ = ਗਿਰਾਹੀ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ। ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ = ਹਰ ਦਮ।

ਅਰਥ: ਜੋ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਦਾ (ਸੱਚਾ) ਸਿੱਖ ਅਖਵਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ (ਭਾਵ, ਜਿਸ ਨੂੰ ਲੋਕ ਸੱਚਾ ਸਿੱਖ ਆਖਦੇ ਹਨ) ਉਹ ਰੋਜ਼ ਸਵੇਰੇ ਉੱਠ ਕੇ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮ ਦਾ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਹਰ ਰੋਜ਼ ਸਵੇਰੇ ਉੱਦਮ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਇਸ਼ਨਾਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ (ਤੇ ਫਿਰ ਨਾਮ ਰੂਪ) ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਦੇ ਸਰੋਵਰ ਵਿਚ ਟੁੱਭੀ ਲਾਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ, ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਦੇ ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੇ ਨਾਮ ਦਾ ਜਾਪ ਜਪਦਾ ਹੈ ਤੇ (ਇਸ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ) ਉਸ ਦੇ ਸਾਰੇ ਪਾਪ ਵਿਕਾਰ ਲਹਿ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ; ਫਿਰ ਦਿਨ ਚੜ੍ਹੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਦਾ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ ਤੇ (ਦਿਹਾੜੀ) ਬਹਿੰਦਿਆਂ ਉੱਠਦਿਆਂ (ਭਾਵ, ਕਾਰ ਕਿਰਤ ਕਰਦਿਆਂ) ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦਾ ਨਾਮ ਸਿਮਰਦਾ ਹੈ। ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਦੇ ਮਨ ਵਿਚ ਉਹ ਸਿੱਖ ਚੰਗਾ ਲੱਗਦਾ ਹੈ ਜੋ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨੂੰ ਹਰ ਦਮ ਯਾਦ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ।

Plus what you got to say about sikligars jupping Satnaam?

Why do sikligars jupp Satnaam? THey aren't educated and don't have access to Gurbani. Do you not have access to Gurbani or are uneducated?

[Singh132]

There's no point in continuing with you.

Someone who denies Gurmantar and Naam is an enemy of the Panth and committing spiritual suicide.

Once again, I'm not angry. I feel genuine sympathy for you. What an unfortunate person you are that even though you call yourself a Sikh you haven't grasped the whole essence of Sikhi ie. naam.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

No I will post some Shabads which clearly say to do Jaap and Veechaar of Gurbani.

ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਸਖੀ ਅਨੰਦੁ ਗਾਵੈ ॥

gurbaanee sakhee anand gaavai.

Gurbani is naam:

ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਬੋਲੇ ਗੁਣ ਬਾਣੀ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥੪॥੫॥

jan naanak bolay gun banee gurbaanee har naam samaa-i-aa. ||4||5||

Naam is jupped through Gurbani:

ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਗਾਵਹ ਭਾਈ ॥

gurbaanee gaavah bhaa-ee.

ਓਹ ਸਫਲ ਸਦਾ ਸੁਖਦਾਈ ॥

oh safal sadaa sukh-daa-ee.

ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਇਆ ॥

naanak naam Dhi-aa-i-aa.

ਪੂਰਬਿ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਪਾਇਆ ॥੨॥੧੭॥੮੧॥

poorab likhi-aa paa-i-aa. ||2||17||81||

ਧਨਾਸਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ॥

Dhanaasree mehlaa 3.

ਜੋ ਹਰਿ ਸੇਵਹਿ ਤਿਨ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਉ ॥

jo har sayveh tin bal jaa-o.

ਤਿਨ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਸਾਚੁ ਸਚਾ ਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਉ ॥

tin hirdai saach sachaa mukh naa-o.

ਸਾਚੋ ਸਾਚੁ ਸਮਾਲਿਹੁ ਦੁਖੁ ਜਾਇ ॥

saacho saach samaalihu dukh jaa-ay.

ਸਾਚੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਵਸੈ ਮਨਿ ਆਇ ॥੧॥

saachai sabad vasai man aa-ay. ||1||

ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਸੁਣਿ ਮੈਲੁ ਗਵਾਏ ॥

gurbaanee sun mail gavaa-ay.

ਸਹਜੇ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਮੰਨਿ ਵਸਾਏ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

sehjay har naam man vasaa-ay. ||1|| rahaa-o.

ਕੂੜੁ ਕੁਸਤੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਸਨਾ ਅਗਨਿ ਬੁਝਾਏ ॥

koorh kusat tarisnaa agan bujhaa-ay.

ਅੰਤਰਿ ਸਾਂਤਿ ਸਹਜਿ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਏ ॥

antar saaNt sahj sukh paa-ay.

ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਭਾਣੈ ਚਲੈ ਤਾ ਆਪੁ ਜਾਇ ॥

gur kai bhaanai chalai taa aap jaa-ay.

ਸਾਚੁ ਮਹਲੁ ਪਾਏ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਇ ॥੨॥

saach mahal paa-ay har gun gaa-ay. ||2||

ਨ ਸਬਦੁ ਬੂਝੈ ਨ ਜਾਣੈ ਬਾਣੀ ॥

na sabad boojhai na jaanai banee.

ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਧੇ ਦੁਖਿ ਵਿਹਾਣੀ ॥

manmukh anDhay dukh vihaanee.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਭੇਟੇ ਤਾ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਏ ॥

satgur bhaytay taa sukh paa-ay.

ਹਉਮੈ ਵਿਚਹੁ ਠਾਕਿ ਰਹਾਏ ॥੩॥

ha-umai vichahu thaak rahaa-ay. ||3||

ਕਿਸ ਨੋ ਕਹੀਐ ਦਾਤਾ ਇਕੁ ਸੋਇ ॥

kis no kahee-ai daataa ik so-ay.

ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕਰੇ ਸਬਦਿ ਮਿਲਾਵਾ ਹੋਇ ॥

kirpaa karay sabad milaavaa ho-ay.

ਮਿਲਿ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਸਾਚੇ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵਾ ॥

mil pareetam saachay gun gaavaa.

ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਚੇ ਸਾਚਾ ਭਾਵਾ ॥੪॥੫॥

naanak saachay saachaa bhaavaa. ||4||5||

ਸੂਹੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਬਚਨ ਸਾਧ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਜਪੈ ਤਿਸ ਕੀ ਗਤਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਤ ਰਸਨ ਬਖਾਨੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਕਲੀ ਕਾਲ ਕੇ ਮਿਟੇ ਕਲੇਸਾ ॥ ਏਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਪਰਵੇਸਾ ॥੧॥ ਸਾਧੂ ਧੂਰਿ ਮੁਖਿ ਮਸਤਕਿ ਲਾਈ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਉਧਰੇ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਰ ਸਰਣਾਈ ॥੨॥੩੧॥੩੭॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸੇਤੀ ਪਿਰਹੜੀ ਕਿਉ ਗੁਰ ਬਿਨੁ ਜੀਵਾ ਮਾਉ ॥ ਮੈ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਆਧਾਰੁ ਹੈ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਲਾਗਿ ਰਹਾਉ ॥੮॥ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਤੰਨੁ ਹੈ ਗੁਰੁ ਤੁਠਾ ਦੇਵੈ ਮਾਇ ॥ ਮੈ ਧਰ ਸਚੇ ਨਾਮ ਕੀ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਰਹਾ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਇ ॥੯॥

ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਇ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਨਿਤ ਨਿਤ ਚਵਾ ਬਲਿ ਰਾਮ ਜੀਉ ॥ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਸਦ ਮੀਠੀ ਲਾਗੀ ਪਾਪ ਵਿਕਾਰ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਸਲੋਕ ਮ ੫ ॥ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਬਾਣੀ ਅਮਿਉ ਰਸੁ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਉ ॥ ਮਨਿ ਤਨਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਉ ॥ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਤੁਮ ਗੁਰਸਿਖਹੁ ਸਚਾ ਇਹੈ ਸੁਆਉ ॥ ਜਨਮੁ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ ਸਫਲੁ ਹੋਇ ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਲਾਇਹੁ ਭਾਉ ॥ ਸੂਖ ਸਹਜ ਆਨਦੁ ਘਣਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਜਪਤਿਆ ਦੁਖੁ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਤ ਸੁਖੁ ਊਪਜੈ ਦਰਗਹ ਪਾਈਐ ਥਾਉ ॥੧॥

ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵਾ ਜੇ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਾਵਾ ॥ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਸੁਹਾਵਾ ॥ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਚਹੁ ਕੁੰਡੀ ਸੁਣੀਐ ਸਾਚੈ ਨਾਮਿ ਸਮਾਇਦਾ ॥੩॥

ਗੁਰ ਸੇਵਾ ਤੇ ਕਰਣੀ ਸਾਰ ॥ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਾਖਹੁ ਉਰਿ ਧਾਰ ॥ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਵਰਤੀ ਜਗ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਇਸੁ ਬਾਣੀ ਤੇ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਾਇਦਾ ॥੩॥

Is there need for more tukhs? Do you have any faith in Gurbani or just your ego? According to the aarth done by you, Gurbani will contradict itself, which is unacceptable.

I am a GurSikh of Guru Nanak and not a Sikh of Bhai Randhir Singh. So, I don't care when you say I am not a Sikh.

Holla back anytime you know star!

To say that I don't believe in Gurmantar or Naam is just falsee allegations which in nindya which is maha paap. Just becuase you don't understand what naam is and what Gurmantar is, is it my problem?